still winning is winning. hanging does not count. your stock civic ex dx and bblah blah blah other trims maybe besides SI suck big dick stock. Vtec or not, stock is still sub-110 hp. crankhp is always higher. you will never win without serious power application, aka Turbo. amen.
you can hang with any car, but you will never beat it. you if you have no strong middle range you are ****ed. learn a little more about engines and how things work. maybe will help. if you want ill post some websites you can kinda glare at the concept.
you think bolt ons are that efficient? please! what the ****! you spend 1500 on h/i/e to get what? mac gain of 15 horseS? dynos in magazines lie, you will find it out years later. why not spend around 6grand on rebuild and turbo setup? that is where real power is. you are such a ricer.
