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12-28-2003, 08:38 PM

the ITR shortblock sounds nice, but unfortunately the ITR swap is no cheaper than an H22 in a Civic, actually its more expensive in most cases. Your 2500 dollar price tag sounds nice, but unfortunately u still have to take into account for the tranny, throttle body, intake, ecu, mounts and other things that are needed. The cheapest I have seen an ITR is 5,000 dollars. Even with an ITR engine u should still change your suspension as the ITR engine is also quite a bit heavier than the D series. So after everything is said and done with the resleeved ITR block and a swap u are looking at atleast 8,000 dollars and u still have stock rims, stock suspension, and an engine that only makes 128 ft pounds of torque! Sure it is ready for some serious power but u would have to dump even more money into it then. U could be looking at way over 10,000 dollars (with your resleeve of course). Sure it would be bad a$# but at what cost? Remember I am spending alot of my money on cosmetics and not just go fast parts. I bought my H22a JDM spec Type S engine, tranny, ecu, shifter cables, and resister box all for $1779. The kit from HASPORT, axles, rear tranny bracket, and an ECU adapter is about $1300. So technically I could do this swap for a little over $3000. That is way cheaper than the ITR setup. The only problems with this low figure is obviously the car wouldnt really handle right and I would have to modify the exhaust to bolt it up, as well as modify the factory air box assembly or make a homebuilt short ram setup, not to mention other incidentals that u should really change like the timing belt, plugs, plug wires, cap and rotor, and things like that. Realistically I could get away with a proper handling Civic, with all the proper incidentals, and things for around 4,000 dollars if I really wanted to. But who wants to be stock? Not me man. I am a tuner, like everyone else in this forum. My car will be customized to the way I want it, and it will be somewhat unique. Not to mention I am not some panzy a$$ m&ron who doesnt know a thing about cars, who has more money than sense, that goes out and buys a brand new 30,000 dollar Lancer EVO and think I am just the sh*t! People like that are lame. I just like to be different and I am not afraid to go with the H22 like some other people are.

12-28-2003, 08:38 PM	#20
Honda_Tengoku Posts: n/a	the ITR shortblock sounds nice, but unfortunately the ITR swap is no cheaper than an H22 in a Civic, actually its more expensive in most cases. Your 2500 dollar price tag sounds nice, but unfortunately u still have to take into account for the tranny, throttle body, intake, ecu, mounts and other things that are needed. The cheapest I have seen an ITR is 5,000 dollars. Even with an ITR engine u should still change your suspension as the ITR engine is also quite a bit heavier than the D series. So after everything is said and done with the resleeved ITR block and a swap u are looking at atleast 8,000 dollars and u still have stock rims, stock suspension, and an engine that only makes 128 ft pounds of torque! Sure it is ready for some serious power but u would have to dump even more money into it then. U could be looking at way over 10,000 dollars (with your resleeve of course). Sure it would be bad a$# but at what cost? Remember I am spending alot of my money on cosmetics and not just go fast parts. I bought my H22a JDM spec Type S engine, tranny, ecu, shifter cables, and resister box all for $1779. The kit from HASPORT, axles, rear tranny bracket, and an ECU adapter is about $1300. So technically I could do this swap for a little over $3000. That is way cheaper than the ITR setup. The only problems with this low figure is obviously the car wouldnt really handle right and I would have to modify the exhaust to bolt it up, as well as modify the factory air box assembly or make a homebuilt short ram setup, not to mention other incidentals that u should really change like the timing belt, plugs, plug wires, cap and rotor, and things like that. Realistically I could get away with a proper handling Civic, with all the proper incidentals, and things for around 4,000 dollars if I really wanted to. But who wants to be stock? Not me man. I am a tuner, like everyone else in this forum. My car will be customized to the way I want it, and it will be somewhat unique. Not to mention I am not some panzy a$$ m&ron who doesnt know a thing about cars, who has more money than sense, that goes out and buys a brand new 30,000 dollar Lancer EVO and think I am just the sh*t! People like that are lame. I just like to be different and I am not afraid to go with the H22 like some other people are.