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thermal · 11-11-2003, 11:08 AM

fuk! we're back on this subject again?

Anyway, if you were pretty close to Va, my buddies and myself would do you any swap.....B or D..... for $300 plus a case of corona....

We just did a B18C5 swap this weekend on a Delsol. It took us 2 days since we had to pull out 2 motors (both B and D). It aint that hard as long as you have a cherry picker (engine lift). We did this swap on his front yard.

To add my 2psi on the D16 vs B18B swap, it just really depends on what your goal is. If you've made up your mind about D for now and B later on, I say B now! Why drop a D16 then B later on. You'll just spend more money, especially with labor. I have nothing against D16's at all. I like both but I will not do both swaps on the same car. I'm looking at the funding side here. If you think that you'll be happy with a D+turbo, then props. Going B later will just double, in some cases depending on how much the D got built, triple loss on the $$$. B will give you a higher base HP than a D, meaning you can slap a turbo on it, tune it and be happy with minor internal work. On a D16 VTEC, you can slap a turbo, strengthen the internals and boost away and could run circles on some "stock" B turboed for sure. I know a dude who is pushing 18 psi on his built D16Z6 + Hondata and have beaten a few Tegs with B18C and turbo running on stock internals. Plan plan plan plan.......

Around here, I've convinced a friend to sell a B16A (JDM SiR II) engine for $500 (no tranny, no ECU) to another friend. Then the same person who sold the B16A2 sold a B18A (no tranny) for $400. Another friend bought a B20 for $600 with an LS tranny already. I have friends who would sell you a D16Z6 for $200 or get it free just to get it out of their garage. It just takes time. Look around. Make long term decissions.

I have 2 decent cars- a Civic turboed D16Y8 and a Teg with JDM B18C ITR. Neither were internally modified. They are both fun to drive, but they also differ in driving characteristics. They differ in many ways, especailly with acceleration. The turbo D16 @ 10 psi boost kicks ass but I think that my Teg will still take it. DOHC VTEC rides way different than a SOHC VTEC..... turbo or not. My advice is to drive a DOHC VTEC and take it up to engage VTEC. You will feel the diffrence from that compared to a SOHC VTEC... that is if you plan to go non-turbo except for minor basic bolt-ons. With turbos, it gets really down to tuning.......B or D.....
.............. just my 2psi......

11-11-2003, 11:08 AM	#18
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	fuk! we're back on this subject again? Anyway, if you were pretty close to Va, my buddies and myself would do you any swap.....B or D..... for $300 plus a case of corona.... We just did a B18C5 swap this weekend on a Delsol. It took us 2 days since we had to pull out 2 motors (both B and D). It aint that hard as long as you have a cherry picker (engine lift). We did this swap on his front yard. To add my 2psi on the D16 vs B18B swap, it just really depends on what your goal is. If you've made up your mind about D for now and B later on, I say B now! Why drop a D16 then B later on. You'll just spend more money, especially with labor. I have nothing against D16's at all. I like both but I will not do both swaps on the same car. I'm looking at the funding side here. If you think that you'll be happy with a D+turbo, then props. Going B later will just double, in some cases depending on how much the D got built, triple loss on the $$$. B will give you a higher base HP than a D, meaning you can slap a turbo on it, tune it and be happy with minor internal work. On a D16 VTEC, you can slap a turbo, strengthen the internals and boost away and could run circles on some "stock" B turboed for sure. I know a dude who is pushing 18 psi on his built D16Z6 + Hondata and have beaten a few Tegs with B18C and turbo running on stock internals. Plan plan plan plan....... Around here, I've convinced a friend to sell a B16A (JDM SiR II) engine for $500 (no tranny, no ECU) to another friend. Then the same person who sold the B16A2 sold a B18A (no tranny) for $400. Another friend bought a B20 for $600 with an LS tranny already. I have friends who would sell you a D16Z6 for $200 or get it free just to get it out of their garage. It just takes time. Look around. Make long term decissions. I have 2 decent cars- a Civic turboed D16Y8 and a Teg with JDM B18C ITR. Neither were internally modified. They are both fun to drive, but they also differ in driving characteristics. They differ in many ways, especailly with acceleration. The turbo D16 @ 10 psi boost kicks ass but I think that my Teg will still take it. DOHC VTEC rides way different than a SOHC VTEC..... turbo or not. My advice is to drive a DOHC VTEC and take it up to engage VTEC. You will feel the diffrence from that compared to a SOHC VTEC... that is if you plan to go non-turbo except for minor basic bolt-ons. With turbos, it gets really down to tuning.......B or D..... .............. just my 2psi...... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum