Before reading... please read my sig... I'm just a smart-ass... I'm not trying to put either of you or your motors down...
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Originally posted by cashizslick
you cant knock the torqueless wonder.
Watch me.
Having a fast honda is all about weight. The more crap you take out of your honda the faster it will go.
That's possibly the stupidest comment I've ever heard... 100lbs increases your QUARTER MILE time by 1 TENTH of a second...
Here's a GREAT performance article along the lines of your thinking...
http://crazyjim.ramelot.com/14seconds.htm
Saying a 1.6 liter b16 is gay aint right - i can beat GSR's w/the same mods as i have, does that mean they are gay? does that mean my 1.6 is any better than their 1.8? No, not at all. The b16 just trades a little low rpm torque for a little more high rpm power (im talkin jdm b16's, since they put out the same final power as a us b18c1).
A 1.6 is a 1.6... sure head/cam design and compression play a part... but displacement is what's going to get you power... short of that it had better have a hair dryer on it...
If you can beat a car with MORE power than you... yes it makes you gay... I've beaten BMW's before... BECAUSE THE DRIVER SUCKED. If you mean you can beat GSR integra's... I doubt it... and on top of that... that's not exactly shooting for the stars.
and as I've stated your "final power" equality doesn't mean SH!t... they have a STRONG power band.. you don't... if your car had a constantly variable tranny that kept you at peak maybe it would matter what your peak power was... till then the torque curve will ALWAYS win given the same peak hp.
Honestly, im sick of you people saying that having a b16 is a dumb idea - weather youve got a b16 or a b18, the race is gonna be a driver's race. From reading some of your posts, its obvious you have never raced against another Bseries honda while driving a Bseries honda, so please dont try and talk like a 1.8 is SSSSOOO much better than the 1.6.
How is it going to be a "driver's race"... Unless the guy with more power is a SH!TTY driver... he's going to win.
I never said ANYTHING about a 1.8 being a great idea either... but it's certainly a better launching pad then a 1.6... every last DROP of displacement you can get will help in the long run..
As far as
"its obvious you have never raced against another Bseries honda while driving a Bseries honda, so please dont try and talk like a 1.8 is SSSSOOO much better than the 1.6. "
Ok I was wrong... The weight thing is no longer the dumbest thing I've ever heard...
Being in a race with 2 bseries honda's would affect my ability to understand PHYSICS how?
I never said a single word about a 1.8... what I said is swapping and KEEPING the same displacement is RETARDED... whether you swap a b16 that's been sleeved over or stroked... or buying a 1.8 to start with... Either way It's still WAY low displacement... 1.8 is the BARE MINIMUM you need to get even decent performance w/o a turbo... 2.0 or higher is what you should be shooting for...
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Now having said all that...
I couldn't care less if you guys got swaps... if YOU are happy with them then great... but don't come on here with TOTALLY inaccurate B.S. yammering on constantly to everyone how they should get a jdm b16... or how the D's suck... that's just BAD BAD BAD advise... you're exited because you just did (had) something MAJOR done to your car... that's great and all... but don't go telling people that D16's are "gay"...
any 1.6 motor is a joke... it's TINY... like I said even a 1.8 is too small imo... If it's not turbo then the extra cam can suck my nut... you could make a Dseries MUCH MUCH faster NA or boost than a b16 swap for LESS MONEY...
Of course that would take work... which is "gay" apparently.