Man, I'm sorry I've been outta this nice little debate. My computer got infested with spyware and it multiplied like rabbits at a Barry White concert (RIP). Anyway, first of all I would like to assure you nonov, I do speak for myself in politics. My stepdad is a moron and my mom is a liberal when it comes to politics, so I guess they dictate what I think, considering I am generally conservative
. I do not get any political newsletters, and watch all networks of news except CBS, they are too old and dull. Please stop making things up and talking about that which you do not know, ie my life. Thanks.
Thanks v8 for holding ground here, I agree with everything you have said. Iraq was a threat, maybe not directly towards us as an organized country, but if you think it didn't support terrorism, just look at the terrorist training camps in Northern Iraq. I guess they train the kurds for self-defense up there
. They support(ed) terrorism in the region and caused much instability, maintaining hostile relations with Kuwait and Iran, not to mention other countries. A terrorist supporting nation causing instability in a region known for breeding terrorism is not a good thing. Surely that is simple enough to understand.
Pearl Harbor was over an oil sanction? Um no, the Japanese knew we were their only real threat in the Pacific and war with us was imminent, so they hoped their strike would cripple the US Navy enough to the point where we could not make war with them effectively.
When did we stop looking for Osama? Even CNN (al-jazerah west) reports we have him within a 40-mile radius. That is a lot of ground. We still have thousands of troops in Afghanistan, and if you don't believe that, look up the KIA logs and call some of the families.
So raising taxes and more gov't spending is the key to long term success? I knew it, I knew socialism was prosperous, just look at what economic powerhouses Sweeden and Norway have become
. Wal-Mart just became the biggest company in the world (revenue 220+ billion per year, surpassing Exxon-Mobil), and guess why? It is because they are the poster-child of capitalism. I'd say they have done pretty well, and apparently people like shopping there, especially to spend 220+ billion per year there.
THE ECONOMY IS NOT THE STOCK MARKET. Why can people not figure out that what the stock market does is not an accurate measure of how well the economy is doing. It is speculation on the future of the economy, not the current condition. People's emotions and premonitions come into play in the market, such as the panic after 9/11. Did the economy immediately plummit? No, I still went to school, people still went to work. People speculated the economy was going downhill and 9/11 gave them a reason to hit the panic button. If everyone in America gets and spends a $200 tax check, that is amazing. 250mil x 200, thats an awful lot of money. And don't think that the money gets spent once. Consumers spend money on a product, the firm spends that same money to expand/hire, more people employed, the employed people now get a check that they spend some every week, that money goes into circulation, etc. It is called capitalism. I recommend a basic macroeconomics book from a bookstore.
There are lots of liars on both sides of Congress, but saying Bush has covert lies is retarded. Nice speculation. Hey, I bet Dick Cheney secretly has 10 black muslim gay lovers all named Ace. See my point?
Anyways, thats all I got for now, if I missed anything feel free to bring it to my attention. My computer is still down waiting on a windows CD so I can finish reformatting, and I don't want to use my friends too often.