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Originally posted by highlander
you must not get out much, or maybe you just don't listen well...

Actually I talk almost exclusively with republicans and I'm a VERY good listener... also VERY logical... that's the problem...

Republicans are republicans because they're greedy... Like you pointed out... they do NOTHING but whine about the fact that they pay a lot in taxes.... While I agree to an extent... It's called a PERCENTAGE... you make more you pay more... and people who make less can afford to pay LESS... So suck it up and make more money.... that's what gets you guys off anyway.

gotta throw in that they are rich, so?
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Again... Actually it was merely pointing out that not many "ahead of the curve"r's like you don't come from poverty or even from a world that could grasp what it's like to be subjigated from birth due to economic in-equality... (yes you bet your tit's I'm a commi)
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hmm, the top 10% pay 90% of the taxes, that sound right to you?

I think the tax system as it stands sucks... the fact that bill gates and my father are in the same tax bracket is rediculous... There should be like 5 more tax brackets then there are now... Not to mention the fact that income tax is the biggest gift you could ever give illegal business/criminals.

HOWEVER the fact that the top 3% has like 90% of the money it makes sense that they're paying 90% of the taxes...

I guess you didn't pay attention to 9/11... wars aren't free buddy, and neither is your freedom. not to even mention that presidents take years to have an effect on the economy, and the very first fiscal quarter that bush was in office was a recession... you think he had that much effect in a few weeks?

Yeah... I didn't pay attention... I could see it from my office building... but I didn't pay attention... Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11... if YOU were paying attention you would have noticed that even the bush camp said that after what I'm sure was a VERY serious attempt to make a link...

As far as presidents taking years to have an affect on the economy... that's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard... there is some truth to it... but the economy is a pretty by the minute thing... bad news or even the fear of bad news can lead to SERIOUS drops in the stock market... and consumer confidence is at major risk when our president walks around like an angry talking chimp... starting wars with ANYONE that looks at him funny. Not to mention the fact that he's a complete bafoon. and doesn't have ANY idea what he's reading half the time.

or they can just cut all military/intel funding and leave us vunerable good speculation there- where do you get your info? the liberal press?

Dude you are SOO typical...

A. Clinton spent TONS on the military... in the words of SEVERAL military lifers' I've met...
"Actually clinton keeps us MUCH busier than bush or reagan ever did"
B. GORE wanted to invest in the next gen. of military equip... BUSH did NOT And WILL NOT.
C. The "liberal press" doesn't exist... other than random b.s. mags that you have to special order and can't be found ANYWHERE... the press is VERY diverse... there are NO overtly liberal stations... there is at LEAST one VERY biased "rightwing" station...
D. Cutting spending on cia/fbi/nsa who are litterally running around doing NOTHING other than spending money and cashing paychecks... without EVER doing anything significant EVER... in order to EDUCATE the population or clean up the domestic MESS that the republicans left behind...

Where have we emperialized? Survery says... nowhere

Uh... have you ever heard of PANAMA???? of course not...

Empiralism doesn't need to be overt... if you don't think that we are DIRECTLY responsible for EVERY single countries current affairs in the middle east you're WAY more un-educated then I EVER could have imagined...

Iraq: WE supported saddam and PUT him in power..
Iran: Again by supporting saddam we facilitated the current gov. to come to pass.
Saudi Arabi: We support a HORRIFIC gov. there... As long as they pump out the black gold we don't care WHAT they do... including creating an environment that encourages anti-americanism in order to divert the populous' anger towards their OWN gov... (which again WE support and help to stay in power)... not to mention being the birth country of 19 of the hijackers.
Egypt: Well england is outwardly responsible for that mess... we had a lot to do with it to though.
Isreal: THE ONLY REASON IT EXISTS IS REPUBLICANS DIDN'T WANT ALL THE DISPLACED JEWS FROM WWII TO COME HERE.... THANKS GUYS! that hasn't caused ANY problems...

I could keep going but I'm tired.

more speculation, good job there geraldo

... Gee what did I say in my other post.... oh yeah...

I've never met anyone who's a republican who says ANYTHING that sounds remotely thought out... it just is all little quipy boy's club kind of b.s....

I'm geraldo like you know what you're talking about...

I really didn't start this to be a fight or to personally attack you... but you serisouly are the epidemy of what's wrong with the world... The upper class doing everything they can to stay on top while not letting anyone else get ahead.

You might as well move to india and start loaning the underclass money for buriels then make them work it off rolling bindi's... I'm sure you'd make GREAT money... which seems to be what you care about.