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nonovurbizniz · 06-20-2003, 09:30 PM

^ because ignorant kids think it's cool to have... and because it with the exception of the d15 vtec... they are the PERFORMANCE engines for hondas/acuras...

If you ran just the vtec lobes or more radical ones the hp would be AWFUL... EVERYWHERE... peak may be ok but it's not gunna be great at all...

My point of removing all the extra lobes/rockers is that the weight of all of that makes it harder for the car to perform... obviously it has it's benifits as well.

vtec in ALL honda vtec engines (barring the d15) are performance minded it has NOTHING to do with fuel economy... most 16valve 4bangers get identical if not better gas milage. economy is a benifit of running MUCH less than half of the average v8's displacement.

vtec is ok and all but like I said.. comparable cars made by ALL other manufacturers perform similarly... they just don't have "vtec"... my sentra was the NON sport version and it was MUCH faster than my civic (this has a lot to do with the fact that my sentra was factory stripped... and my civic is an ex) but the point is it is NOT astoundingly faster.. and an ser of the same year would own it ANY day of the week (even with a swap)... an ser would beat a integra gsr no problem. I used to beat my buddy's older brother in his ls with my sentra.

I'm not saying it's lame or worthless or that it wasn't a great advance in engine design... i'm saying it's WAY over hyped and the fact that it's a "bragging right" is REALLY lame... for the "fast" engines... they're not that fast...

vr6 or 1.8t would own a c5. ser vspec or spec v or whatever would too probobly...

my sentra which used to beat my friends bro's ls used to get it's ass handed to it when I raced miata's or escort gt's... and I'm SURE my sentra would've beat my civic.

and I was joking when I said it's like a turbo... the point was it was like a SUPER shitty slow spooling one.

06-20-2003, 09:30 PM	#18
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 48 Posts: 2,693	^ because ignorant kids think it's cool to have... and because it with the exception of the d15 vtec... they are the PERFORMANCE engines for hondas/acuras... If you ran just the vtec lobes or more radical ones the hp would be AWFUL... EVERYWHERE... peak may be ok but it's not gunna be great at all... My point of removing all the extra lobes/rockers is that the weight of all of that makes it harder for the car to perform... obviously it has it's benifits as well. vtec in ALL honda vtec engines (barring the d15) are performance minded it has NOTHING to do with fuel economy... most 16valve 4bangers get identical if not better gas milage. economy is a benifit of running MUCH less than half of the average v8's displacement. vtec is ok and all but like I said.. comparable cars made by ALL other manufacturers perform similarly... they just don't have "vtec"... my sentra was the NON sport version and it was MUCH faster than my civic (this has a lot to do with the fact that my sentra was factory stripped... and my civic is an ex) but the point is it is NOT astoundingly faster.. and an ser of the same year would own it ANY day of the week (even with a swap)... an ser would beat a integra gsr no problem. I used to beat my buddy's older brother in his ls with my sentra. I'm not saying it's lame or worthless or that it wasn't a great advance in engine design... i'm saying it's WAY over hyped and the fact that it's a "bragging right" is REALLY lame... for the "fast" engines... they're not that fast... vr6 or 1.8t would own a c5. ser vspec or spec v or whatever would too probobly... my sentra which used to beat my friends bro's ls used to get it's ass handed to it when I raced miata's or escort gt's... and I'm SURE my sentra would've beat my civic. and I was joking when I said it's like a turbo... the point was it was like a SUPER shitty slow spooling one. __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...