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Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
this is getting old...
I have no idea what a "tsudo" muffler is... the piping on pacesetters are poorly bent and small... I'm not sure WHY they lose hp over stock exhausts (I can't even believe it's possible that a company releases and continues to sell such an exhaust but.... I've seen SEVERAL dyno's of before and after ALWAYS with a loss...) if you have the header too then it's even worse... I was saying JUST the exhaust... if you have their header that's another 5-10 drop...
The reason I can't ACCEPT you kept up is because if it was running right or he could drive it would be beyond the laws of physics unless you have 50-80 hp extra that a bird crapped onto you car....
Your mods (even if the list was MUCH longer) there's just about no way a d16 could keep up with a vr6.
there are no "civic gods"... it's a car and it conforms to the laws of physics just like EVERYTHING else in the world... vr6's burn type r integra's... I don't think your civic EX is faster than a type r.
and as far as "keeping my slow civic"... I'm a poor dude... it's a GREAT commuter car... which is what I use it for... it's fun on the highway above 75-80 and it's fun to drive around on backroads with... and even if I did have money to replace it I wouldn't... it runs great and drives great... it's just not fast.... and it never will be... cuz to get "fast car" performance out of a civic you have to be willing to dump 2-10 grand into it just to have a decently fast car in the end... there are 5-50 cars out there that could take the mods I'd have to put on a swap motor on their stock motor AND yield higher numbers/performance in the end... for the money it takes to make a civic "fast" you could buy a SECOND car and mod that and end up with 2 cars; the good one having cost less and performing better than the civic would if you put all that money into it.
Look at what's his name who just got a tsi... fresh off of EBAY for gods sake he's BURNING all sorts of cars you won't have a chance against for a LONG LONG time unless you hit the lotto...
if you swapped in a c1 and boosted it to 8-10lbs the tsi will still be faster than yours... plus his car could be had for 1000 bucks 2500 for one that runs strong and doesn't need any work.
You'd be 5-8 grand into your civic (not to mention whatever you paid for it to start) to get SMOKED by a car that was bought off of ebay for under 3k and is still STOCK.
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Dude, the civic God comment was a joke...can ya take one of those?
I noticed the power increase after i put the headers on, and i noticed it go up a lil after i put the new muffler on it also...so whatever.
Yea, the dude got a TSI....off ebay....what the hell is the fun in that? already tuned for you?
I in this for cars, and for the fun of adding parts myself, and installing them myself...and i'm prouid of how my car performes...its decently fast compared to a lot of cars around where i live....where i live, we go from low grade tuenrs like civics, accords, integras, and then jump way the hell up to ferrari's and lambos, and maseratis, and vettes, and whatever the hell else is up there with them...but those people dont' wanna race, their all yuppies with a lot of money...enough to buy a fast car. the people i race, are other civics, integras, and well....that yummy Saleen that came along yesturday :drool: