[nonovurbizniz]

^the only problem is that you'll never do that... a supra bone stock as long as it's running well will BURN a 20 psi b18. or a h22 or whatever FRONT WHEEL DRIVE car you through at it same for a vette. sure there are and have been exceptions and yes 50k into a civic will make it faster than a 50k new vette... but the point is the vette is operating at like 40-60 hp/liter (ie not tuned or taken advantage of yet) while the turboed 2liter or 1.8 is like 150-250 hp/liter (ie THAT's ALL YOU'll EVER GET OUT OF IT.. and it's not gunna live for too long.)

The lude swaps great as long as you get an lsd and don't want traction above 5k in ANY GEAR.

Go buy yer spoon engine and have some schmuck tear it apart...and turbo it... take pictures and send me what's left after it blows.

You or anyone has to realize that fwd is JUST NOT OPTIMAL...

and opak I'm not tring to be mean but if you think you beat a turbo anything then that turbo is either pissing boost or not tuned at all. and if you think you beat an sho then it was either totally neglected and not running properly or the person wasn't racing you. as far as the accord... I could beat some accords in a stock vw beetle that hasn't ever had a oil change (sorry hondaman).

Do what you want but make up your mind... Also you still haven't come back with a budget... how much money is burning a hole in your pocket that your asking all these fat cat questions????