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thanks anyway, i know there is this OEM thing goin on, I have 17 inchers now, they are just so old and screwed up, hard to align too. I want a new set of preferably 5 star, but i've just started looking really. the tires are good, so I can bear it for a while. Just wondering if someone was feeling sympathetic out there and could get me a really great deal. My rims are bent, curbed, etc. but i cant kill em it seems, so i'll ride it out till the right deal comes along. Thanks dude. JAson
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