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Old 03-21-2003, 01:32 PM   #167
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Originally posted by cashizslick
If everybody is in the wrong, then you should not even bother arguing this topic - if all govts are evil and cannot redeme themselves - then its no wonder why you see this as a bad idea.

tell me something - you are probably a fan of socialism? just wondering - i mean if the entire world were under one govt, and everybody had the same things regardless, then all our problems would be solved?

Just wondering


That's EXACTLY my point. There is ALWAYS a chance to redeem yourself. Gov. is corrupted by money and greed MOST of the time ... and unfortunately there is no real way to fix that, and I don't necessarily believe in one world gov. but i DO believe that if we really invested a little more faith in things like the UN, treaties, truces... MAYBE we'd get somewhere. one thing is for sure. WAR only perpetuates itself. unfortunately SOMETIMES its needed.

see its hard to keep on track.. i guess its like this.. if there was a "perfect world" to me.. it would be a strong UN.. and more diplomacy. and FEWER wars as stated you can NEVER avoid war completely... i think that the biggest problem with us is our corruption. our willingness to agree to something like the Geneva convention, and THEN use torture after we agree not to. To me chemical and biological warfare is the same ... they agree not to do it then do it anyway. well we are hypocrites to be angered by that, since we are equally guilty... Sadam WILL be dethroned..(probably) and his followers will go into hiding.. and rise up again. There is ONLY one way to fix the drama. and that is to eliminate the problems. And stop the hate. how can you tech nations to get along by bombing there buildings ... how can you teach that killing is wrong by killing. YOU CAN'T we NEED to sit and talk to these people. as absurd as that sounds... TALKING does not kill people ... there was a time when we thought a final super war with Russia was UNAVOIDABLE ... that time has passed. if we as a race wish to survive, the same needs to happen in the middle east, and all over the world. The WORLD needs to stand against him, NOT one nation.
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