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11-22-2002, 05:10 PM

Again I dont know where the hell to start....LoL....you are all over the place not to mention the topic went from building up a D16 to B16's to now SR20 motors which totally has nothing to do with the Honda family.

The whole point that I was trying to make was why in the world would you tell him to work a D16 in an all-motor application when it is totally useless. You will have to invest at least $1,500 or maybe more to come close to the performance of a stock B16. Now why would you use that $1,500 for parts for a D16 when you can buy a JDM B16 w/cable trans for $1,050 (factoring you can pick it up, if it has to be shipped add about another $300) and have a so much better building block.

The other point I was trying to make is, why sit around ***** about torque. Honda engines have very little low end torque yes, but why would you want to try and make more when again it would be useless. Honda engines are known for being high reving top end power cars. Take example the Si, when I race this thing, coming off the line at 5,000rpm usually it will dip back into the middle 4,000rpm range but then 8,000rpm shift, fall back to 5,800rpm and then 8,000rpm again shift, back down to 5,800rpm....get what im saying? So now why would improving low end power help me?

The point that I was trying to make with the Si and the EX was since HP is nothing without TQ (according to you), I was trying to show you 2 engines that have some what similar TQ numbers but with different HP numbers. HP means something cause if the Si had 127HP the Si would most likely be the slower of the 2 since the Si is a bit heavier.

And when I speak I speak with experience, I have built many motors both N/A and Turbo, SOHC and DOHC and I've had experience with building a LS/VTEC. I have been working on imports for about 9 years now and been through alot of motors and lots and lots of parts. So don't judge me before you know.

11-22-2002, 05:10 PM	#16
Almighty-Si Posts: n/a	Again I dont know where the hell to start....LoL....you are all over the place not to mention the topic went from building up a D16 to B16's to now SR20 motors which totally has nothing to do with the Honda family. The whole point that I was trying to make was why in the world would you tell him to work a D16 in an all-motor application when it is totally useless. You will have to invest at least $1,500 or maybe more to come close to the performance of a stock B16. Now why would you use that $1,500 for parts for a D16 when you can buy a JDM B16 w/cable trans for $1,050 (factoring you can pick it up, if it has to be shipped add about another $300) and have a so much better building block. The other point I was trying to make is, why sit around ***** about torque. Honda engines have very little low end torque yes, but why would you want to try and make more when again it would be useless. Honda engines are known for being high reving top end power cars. Take example the Si, when I race this thing, coming off the line at 5,000rpm usually it will dip back into the middle 4,000rpm range but then 8,000rpm shift, fall back to 5,800rpm and then 8,000rpm again shift, back down to 5,800rpm....get what im saying? So now why would improving low end power help me? The point that I was trying to make with the Si and the EX was since HP is nothing without TQ (according to you), I was trying to show you 2 engines that have some what similar TQ numbers but with different HP numbers. HP means something cause if the Si had 127HP the Si would most likely be the slower of the 2 since the Si is a bit heavier. And when I speak I speak with experience, I have built many motors both N/A and Turbo, SOHC and DOHC and I've had experience with building a LS/VTEC. I have been working on imports for about 9 years now and been through alot of motors and lots and lots of parts. So don't judge me before you know.