Want new subs thinking of kickers wat should i do?
 

Well i have right now i got 2 Kenwood 12's and runnin a Kenwood 800 watt amp but i am geting rid of those... well i have been thinking about getting the Kicker SolobarL5's.. i want 2 of those with maybe custom box... i heard that kicker is probly the best and i figured but i havent heard much about them... wat u guys think of these? are they worth the money and do they kick a lot of bass out... cause i all want is bass... nothing else... just a ton of bass... and something thats not very expnesive... and i am looking for an amp the lightening Audio Bolt B.300.2 100Wx2 or 300x1 amp... are thye good amps or should i go with sometihng else... if u have any other ideas let me know casue i am puttin my integra in a car show and i want to be the big one with all the bass.. but opinions needed....... Price no higher than $400...

Thanx
Chris
94 Integra

good luck getting that for under 400...

the setup you have right now is probly right near that mark.

kickers do pound and stay intact pretty well except the squares which tend to come apart rather quickly...
if going with kickers i'd say some xpl's but they are going to cost ya. and the amp... i bet you cant even find any 800W (decent quality) for much under $400. so if thats the absolute limit in $$'s stay with what you have or just upgrade one thing ie the subs or the amp or whatever.
custom box minimum 80.00 unless you do it yourself.

car show bass is minimum 2 speakers(many more usually cause the one's you could get away with just two are like 1000 bucks each.)... total sub wattage about 1500W-sky's the limit.

i hope i didnt put a damper on ya... but 400 is just not reasonable for car show bass.

>>Later>>

Its not like car shows in major towns. its one at our school and we have one for the kids of our high school and i want to blow away everyone with them... well i can get an amp that can hold up 12's for $150 from a freind who owns a audio shop.. but i want some subs that punch out good bass

So the amps we're considering is 300rms x 1 at 4ohms?

I have one Solo L7 12 in my 3000GT and it beats 4 real. I like it. But for the money u tryin to spend....u might as well stay with what u got or just get 2 new subs. i see nothin wrong with Kenwood amps, but I'd ditch them woofers. But for $400...I dunno...flea market shoppin time!

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I dont know... but i just got back form my audio guy.. and we talked and he can get me a set of Visonik 12's in a box ready to go for $170 how good are those or have u heard much about them? and he can get me a Power Acustic amp with neon and pushing 500watts for $150 i say thats not to ba for a set..

Chris
94 Integra

Ok ya but problem wiht them kenwoods.. they arent mine.. there my freinds.. he wants to sell them to me for $200 but i think i am passing and getting some new ones that i like.. i mean these really kick hard but i really dont want them.. they are in fiberglass box with 6 air holes... there really nice and all but i think iam passing.. then he offered me the Pioneer 9300 Cd player for $290 and thats one hell of a deal.. so i mgith go for that too.. cant u tell i am in the mood to spend money... LOL

Chris
94 Integra

Check out Ample Audio or Autotek.. Good, and really not too expensive..


The stuff you listed is ok, but you could do better for around the same amount of dough..

do not buy the kenwood subs from him for 200.00... you can get those two for one at crutchfield.com or other places. those are about 140ish each. thats the ones i have... yep im poor. but they sound decent. im getting a 600W Phoenix Gold amp... its nice.

side note: you should pay attention to what type of box you want... that makes a big difference in the sound. a bandpass box which is a semi sealed box is good for loud volume but not real punchy and deep good for country jazz some rock. sealed box (best in my opinion) is awesome for deep punchy bass but you dont get quite as much volume good for rap, hip hop, really anything with deeper bass. ported box is awesome for higher louder bass which doesn't have much punch at all. good for rock and jazz.

Well i know i am not... well the ones i am loking at are in a sealed box.. i just found a set of 3 12's in a sealed box with fiberglass .. they are going for i think $340..

what are the subs in that box? thats kinda cheap...less than a hundred for each sub...

My friend bought 2 12 in L7's for 400 off ebay, brand new. The guy had a shop near where we lived so it worked out good. Those subs are sweeet. Just make sure you have an amp with some balls. Those things are power hungry.

Ya i know. if i can find a good set for a good price maybe i can get them... i could have had a hcance to got a pair last year they was the L7's with a built in amp for $200 but i went with 2 10's and a 600 watt amp.. that was a mistake... well Maxvla i checked them out and that audio guy has them in his other integra and there only 2 10s and they sound really nice... i just wonder how 3 of them 12's would sound.. he told me that all they do is bass and nothing else... and thas all i want is a sub with hard hitting bass

Chris
94 Integra

do it if you like them... 3 12's usually sound pretty good no matter what they are. plan to put a TON of power into them even if they aren't really big power subs. the more power the cleaner the really loud bass is.
i suggest staying away from the L7's. they pound like a sex starved jailbreaker but i know 3 friends that have had them and they have seperated from the surrounds starting in the corners. i love kicker to death but they need to do more work on those.

my good buddy just got 2 10" L5's for i think 130 a pop (and the next week they shot up to $200 a piece) so he got damn lucky, but he has yet to find an amp to push em (doesnt have the $ for a good 1000w amp) and when he finds one on ebay for cheap it turns out his card is maxed out, so he was pissed, but we hooked up my other friends amp to them and only put 50w to each voice coil (100 per sub) and they still hit pretty nice (needless to say i think he'd clobber my MTX, if he ever got an amp...and just think, those things are made for 450w RMS....GOOD LORD! the retard is putting them in a truck...little air spacce!, not even extended cab!!


he'll die lol

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Ya.. well i looked at some tdoay and yesterday.. heres wat i found out... this guy can get me 2 American Bass 15's for 110 each.. plus he can make me a custom box for 120 with any kind of capret i want.. i know 15's will kill my car but just foun that out

Then today my guy who i buy all my audio from can get me 2 Pioneer 12's (the black ones) for $130 each and a box for $85. and a good Pioneer amp.. wat u thiink of that also?

Chris
94 Integra

one of my friends had one 15" kicker xpl with about 400W running to it that put my system to shame as far as bass.
if you are really going freakin loud bass get a 15" or two.
10's are good for clean precise bass 12's are good for louder deeper and still pretty precise bass 15's are good for deeeeeep throbbing loud as hell bass.
Kicker XPL 15" subs are 249.00 list but im sure you can find them cheaper. so get one of those and then spend a few hours on the strip and you'll be able to afford a good amp. lol j/k.

Sorry for the shameless plug, but you can get them here for $159... http://caraudiozone.woofersetc.com

Yeah, I make a few bucks on the sale, and its the exact same as buying directly from woofersetc. :cool:

not a shameless plug if you can save someone some bigtime money... you got deals for him on amps there too?

looks like you can get a kicker KX400.2 100x2 bridged 400x1 for 299.00 and the sub for 159. so $450 you will dominate... oh yeah and a box. those are cheap.

If you tell me what ressources you have (money/space/time) and what type of bass you're looking for..

I can suggest some components..

If all you want is bass, get the low end Fosgate 15" woofer- RFZ2415. That woofer will POUND with a mere 200 watts. Get two and send them 500 watts, and you'd be bumpin the neighborhood apart.

fosgate = fosbreak. waste of money (except the amps which are overpriced anyways)

I'm not a huge Fosgate fan myself, but when I sold this stuff, we had a pair of the low end Punch 15s hooked up to an old 800a2. We used to pound the hell out of those all day, and we never broke one over the course of about a year.

Fosgate isn't the greatest stuff out there, but on a tight budget it's really not bad at all. They've developed a bad name amongst the die hards for one reason: they used to make an incredible product, but dropped quality in favor of cutting production costs. Don't get me wrong, they're no A/D/S, Dynaudio or Zapco, but contrary to popular belief, they make a decent product for those on a tight budget.

The thing with fosgate is that, we dont know who the hell is making them..

At one point, they were having they're subs built by cheap ass subcontractors.. Shipped to RF, and they put they're logo on it..

Not very honnest IMO.

PS. this went down in SoCal.

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Hey accord man, wat do u suggest on a good system. it doesnt matter on space and i just want something not ot expensive and that something that hits hard.

Well i talekdto the guy who does all my audio work and he can get me 2 Pioneer 12's (black ones) for $230 for both. then a box carpeted for around $85.


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you know... i forgot you had a 800W amp... you dont need a new amp. just get a 15" Kicker XPL (or 15" anything really) and a box and you'll be set maximum $ like 250.00
or if your greedy... get <wink> <wink> 2 of them!!!

well dude thas a problem that amp and 12's arent mine.. so then i would have to get an amp too.. so include that with a price


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For the amp I'd go with Ample Audio A226X.. Its around 200$.

And for subs, 2 15" (or 12) Cerwin HED's in a ported box. 15's go for around 95$.

If porperly setup, it'll pound like a bad mofo!

Done for 400$.. :yes: :cool:

95$ for one 15? wow i thik thas just a little cheap isnt it? ok how much will that amp u said put out?


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thought you said just the subs were his...
oh well.

Hey that amp isnt mine if u look in the last post it said the subs and the amp isnt mine... sorry for the confusion


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The is rated 350 x 1 @4ohms..
But its an Ample.. So you could expect a little more.


95$ is a good price. Yes. But dont call it a cheap sub, cause it really isnt.


For different reasons some products sell for less than they are worth.. Example, the Image dynamics subs, they are insane SQ subs, but sell for low quality sub prices..


You should try finding a shop that carries these brands and try them out..

Then you'll know.


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well i wish they was a place.. they only carry Audiobann, American Bass, Kicker, rofter fosgate, boston, vega, ma audio, JL, Pioneer, PPI an thas about it.. thats out of like 2 audio sops around here.. which one out of those d o u think is good?


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outta those... loudest - Kicker; best sound quality - Boston Acoustics

Oh cool.. Then go with the Kickers.. If you can afford a strong enough amp go with the COMP VR..
They'll need 400w rms each, for the 12s.

But with the amp that I suggested you could go with the Kicker Comp 12's.. Thats what I have. In the proper box(sealed), they'll play very clean and loud!

400Wx2 rms amps aren't cheap.

the comp vr's are pretty nice. xpl's sound better.

What do you mean they sound better?

Comp VR's are better in SQ and SPL.. The only thing is that they are harder to tune properly.. But who cares about that.. Cause once you get it right..


:D :eek: :crazy:

the xpls are more expensive and have higher power handling.
the difference is marginal. just my experience.

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Ya i was wanting Kickers and all.. wat do them compVR4's look like? haven saw them.. i wanted the solobarL5's but i dont know.... if anyon got a pic of them let me know


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thats the Kicker Comp VR 12" $110



Kicker Solobaric L5 12" $189



Kicker XPL 12" $139



Kicker Solobaric L7 12" $249

personally... i'd take any of them... anyone wanna donate? its a good cause!

Which one would u pick out of those.. thye all look nice i like the compvr 4's and the XPL's... id dont matter on price but not the L7's too expensive..


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i'd say comp vr's or xpl's. the squares just havent had a good track record for holding together. they beat like hell but don't last long. get the L5's if you want to. just a little too much risk for me to spend major $ on.

has you budget gorwn or something??

How do you plan to power any of these subs?

yeah really... lol

Well if i get 2 of the XPL's they will be only around 290 or so.. just depends.. well a 400 watt amp will power them... i can go bigger but somehting that will make them hit then that will be ok.. i was offered a Pioneer amp today 4 channel for $160 only like a week old never used...

Chris
94 Integra

whats the power rating on that amp. and look for the RMS rating. max power means nothing, really.

4 channel amps pwerform very poorly on subs.

You'll need 400 w rms to EACH sub! If you're planning to feed 200w rms to each subs, you are aiming for the wrong ones.

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wat does 400w rms's mean?> hah sorry i am new to some of this stuff... well wont i need a 4 channel if i am going to run 3 12's possibly? i know that 400 wont hold then up unless i get another one... and i dont really want to pass on this amp cause if i go with Pioneer i want al pioneer stuff like amps cd player ECT. but i duno aout Kicker there si a dealer in Canton Horizon Audio and they carry everything and i am goin ot make a trip up there to see how much they are up there...


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When you looks at the specs you'll see 2 ratings, one is RMS (can play conitnuously) and max (for a short burst)..

So make sure you look at the RMS figure.


You wanna keep it all Pioneer? Thats not a very good strategy. Pioneer is good for some stuff, and less god for other things.

3 subs?? Dude if you're going with CompVR's try to figure out how you'll power 1-2 subs.
1 subs = 400 watts rms
2 subs = 800 watts rms

And nope, a 4 channel amp is not meant for that type of application. Its meant for 4 interior speakers.