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96civicFL 12-09-2002 08:42 AM

Dakota vs GT Stang
 
Well Sunday night I went to a Hoobastank concert in orlando.
well on my way home a newer GT (yes I seen GT and two pipes out the back) keeped passing me and letting off passing me then letting off, so I punched it took off then i seen him get a big smile on his face. So we lined up at around 55mph - 60mph, and he jumped me and took off, I punched it and tried to hold him and I did hold him till around 110mph or so (trucks suck at higher speeds) ok I gave him a thumbs up. So we lined up again around 50mph and I tried to hit it about the same time but seemed to had jumped him by about 1/4 to 1/2 car length and he never could catch me tell about 110mh-115mph all and all I was very happy with that runs with no juice. So then I was messing around with them and is seend him drink somthing. I was like what is that then i see a huge bottle of vodka and he takes another jug and then throws it out the window, I said for get this I aint racing 2 drunk guys so I just took off.

I would like to know why would you drink and drive AND RACE are they stupid. :no: :no:Geezzz

mt.biker 12-09-2002 11:20 AM

ya them dakotas aren't half bad.. i've raced a 4x4 on the highway... and ya it was hard to keep with him

juvenile 12-09-2002 11:30 AM

Drinking and Driving + Racing = :pukey :loco: :no: :rolleyes: :mad: :banghead: :censored: :busted:

Wren57 12-09-2002 04:39 PM

Im guessing you were in the dakota instead of the car in your little box thingie on the left... question, what type of dakota do you have, cause I was in my friends v8 chevy tahoe, and he beat a magnum v6 dakota from a standstill (our lane ended)... nice job keeping up with a GT on the interstate!:yes:

ShEaNy 12-09-2002 07:02 PM

i raced a dakota once ...dual exhaust sounded crazy i got the jump on him..about a car lenght or less then he stomped it....i got about 2 car lenghts on him and we stayed like that till 120km...then we both let off cause i won and he was getting no where...couldnt pull....i bet off the line hed rape me though.....good kill btw....

firstgeardude 12-09-2002 11:17 PM

nice race... V8 dakotas are fast... the top end 5.9 has lots of power

nonovurbizniz 12-10-2002 02:28 PM

they sell hemi kits for dakota's...

You never know what they've got till they're gone.

mt.biker 12-10-2002 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by firstgeardude
nice race... V8 dakotas are fast... the top end 5.9 has lots of power


you know what i'm talking about you were there bro, with our too bikes on the back flying into a 50mph turn at 100mph it was some crazy shit.. good memories mate good memories...

96civicFL 12-10-2002 04:52 PM

I got a 93 dakota reg cab shortbed 3.9 V6
I got a 3''exhaust no cat ported and polished intake and a K&N
I am doing a 2"front and 4" back drop. It will help topend speed and high speed mpg and also putting heavy duty springs in back so I can tow my Race car (dont have one yet but still looking) and I got a little 100shot of juice on it but hardly ever use it( just alittle bit of juice ;) )

And bye the way the 96 honda civic that I say i have in my info I dont have anymore cause I totaled it. It was raining and I was goofing around and hit a tree. he he

VR4_Craver 12-16-2002 05:36 PM

thats funny because i test drove a dakota with the V6 magnum 5sp and a little civic wasted me....i jsut tucked tale and drove back to the dealer...;( But i bet your exhaust and K&N helped.

Talk to Dingo about dropping your truck he will tell you how it is....COP MAGNET;( :busted: :busted: ;( And his incident with the little furry animal in the road.....

96civicFL 12-16-2002 08:19 PM

Was it a newer dakota? Cause I got the other bodystyle and its alot lighter. Also has more torque and about 5 more horse then the newer ones

96civicFL 12-16-2002 08:21 PM

And yes the Exhaust and K&N helped :yes:

I want to sport drop my truck now like slam it. My truck with a 2" 4" drop is like the newer badass R/T dakota highth.

ford50forlife 12-16-2002 09:33 PM

Re: Dakota vs GT Stang
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 96civicFL
Well Sunday night I went to a Hoobastank concert in orlando.
well on my way home a newer GT (yes I seen GT and two pipes out the back) keeped passing me and letting off passing me then letting off, so I punched it took off then i seen him get a big smile on his face. So we lined up at around 55mph - 60mph, and he jumped me and took off, I punched it and tried to hold him and I did hold him till around 110mph or so (trucks suck at higher speeds) ok I gave him a thumbs up. So we lined up again around 50mph and I tried to hit it about the same time but seemed to had jumped him by about 1/4 to 1/2 car length and he never could catch me tell about 110mh-115mph all and all I was very happy with that runs with no juice. So then I was messing around with them and is seend him drink somthing. I was like what is that then i see a huge bottle of vodka and he takes another jug and then throws it out the window, I said for get this I aint racing 2 drunk guys so I just took off.

I would like to know why would you drink and drive AND RACE are they stupid. :no: :no:Geezzz



not to be a mustang troll but there are alot of dual exhaust sixes around... YOU CANT TELL THE MODEL by the EXHAUST you have to tell BY THE CUTOUTS in the back of the bumper, or the badging.... i drove a 3.9 5-spd my shop teacher had and it have decent passing power but i think it wouldn't even be a decent matchup for a "DRUNKEN" 6 cylinder w/ exhaust.... I DONT WANT to be a mustang troll, but when i drove that truck i got on it HARDCORE and i think my jeep woulda taken it and my jeep runs toe to toe with my mom's 6 stanger 2001.. BUT GOOD TRY THOUGH, AND YES YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY DUMB TO DRIVE AND RACE DRUNK

ford50forlife 12-16-2002 09:38 PM

WITHOUT SPRAY.... HOLLY SHIT! that must be a hella truck then.... from a Stock 0-60 of 10.3 and 1/4 mile of 17.2@79 to go to 14.0@99 territory with exhaust!... its much more accurrate if you look at teh v-6 stang and its 0-60 in 8.4 AUTOMATIC and 1/4 mile in 16.3@84 1/4 mile and EXHAUST FOR EXHAUST its about the same as the above comparo anyway

AJ1978TA 12-16-2002 09:40 PM

That was a v6 stang with exhaust dude......How does a truck beat a new stang GT? FROM A ROLL? The truck has aerdynamics of a brick, and they can't win if they were aerodynamic. Ram trucks are slow dude. I have a 98 Ram and an 89 ramcharger in the family, and have had other dodges in the past. You ran a v6 with exhaust, and even then, you still couldn't have won. Why do people post such things LOL. He could have been chilling in 5th with a GT and pulled you.......The only chance you have is if he was drunk, and was not really going for it.:ricer:

Wren57 12-16-2002 10:15 PM

If he were drunk, do you really think he was shifting properly?:no:

R32'nMEM 12-16-2002 10:58 PM

I just want to meet the guy that sucessfuly pulled off the Viper
V10 in the regular cab dakota. Had a reg. cab 2.5L 4 cylinder and found a wrecked '96 GTS and pulled what he could. He also did Viper's rear end and 6-speed tranny swap. Rumor has it that its been sent to Hennessey and twinned!!!

96civicFL 12-17-2002 10:38 AM

Yea figures no one believes me on here LOL normal.
Just say my friends that races me are very surprised.
I would like to hook up with someone on here and show you that my poor little truck is very surprising for what it is.

It was a GT stang. I seen GT on the back and I also have raced other GT Stangs from a start and have stayed pretty close.
and my truck has lots of punch tell around 100+
then its a dog but its bad tell then
I take civic ex with intake,exhaust,chip whats so hard about that they slow as hell.

96civicFL 12-17-2002 10:40 AM

And stangs arnt that fast for what they are suppost to be

SVT Cobra 12-17-2002 11:30 AM

ummm you would have trouble taking out a 1990 LX 4 cylinder mustang with a dodge dakota. why would you even post this? it is clear that the guy in the mustang was either not racing because you're in a stupid truck and it would be a waste of his time/gas or it was a 6 cylinder w/ dual exhaust with a horrible driver cuz even a v6 mustang would beat you.

ford50forlife 12-17-2002 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 96civicFL
Yea figures no one believes me on here LOL normal.
Just say my friends that races me are very surprised.
I would like to hook up with someone on here and show you that my poor little truck is very surprising for what it is.

It was a GT stang. I seen GT on the back and I also have raced other GT Stangs from a start and have stayed pretty close.
and my truck has lots of punch tell around 100+
then its a dog but its bad tell then
I take civic ex with intake,exhaust,chip whats so hard about that they slow as hell.



im not saying i dont believe you, im just saying your not telling the truth if all you had is exhaust on a LOW TO MID 17 second truck to beat a LOW 14 second car, basically meaning that the OTHER CAR CAN GIVE YOU A 0-30 launch and still beat you at the end of the 1/4 mile...

THERE MUSTA BEEN SPRAY, if there WASNT THEN YOU MUST RUN WITH VIPERS RIGHT? even with a 100 shot a 160hp truck with exhaust intake and 100 shot is like 270flywheel hp pulling a raceweight of like 3900lbs so its still like high 14's it just doesnt add up

96civicFL 12-18-2002 09:54 AM

Well maybe when I got it rebuilt 10k miles ago the guy did a few things?:bandit: V8 stangs are not all that great. I went to the strip with a friend and he has a V8 stang with alot well maybe not alot but enuf done to it and he was only running 14.10 - 14.20

96civicFL 12-18-2002 09:57 AM

The dakota V6 I have came stock 190hp

ford50forlife 12-18-2002 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 96civicFL
Well maybe when I got it rebuilt 10k miles ago the guy did a few things?:bandit: V8 stangs are not all that great. I went to the strip with a friend and he has a V8 stang with alot well maybe not alot but enuf done to it and he was only running 14.10 - 14.20


ok now were clear, dont pass it off LIKE YOU GOT NO WORK DONE TO THE TRUCK..... SHIT IF I DROPPED 3 SECONDS OFF THE 1/4 MILE IN MY JEEP I WOULD PROUDLY LIST MODS... BE PROUD OF WHAT YOU GOT DONE TO THE TRUCk..... aint no ****ing exhaust on a 17 second truck gonna run with a new mustang's 14.2-14.3 (EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE SLOW). (BTW your boy dont know how to drive lol). so what exactly do you run with spray??

96civicFL 12-18-2002 07:14 PM

Well I realy dont know never ran it. But I stay right beside my buddy that ran a 13.98 so not to sure. He has a 94 toyota pickup lifted 7 inches on 33 swampers and has got a 350 bored .40 over bla bla bla bla done to it and a supercharger.
Now that thing is bad. He pulls a wheelstand off the line.

BTW I am boosting my spray to 150 shot untell I get my realy hp getter. (A supercharger)

TeriyakiBroccoli 12-18-2002 07:16 PM

Re: Dakota vs GT Stang
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 96civicFL
Well Sunday night I went to a Hoobastank concert


hoobawhat?

96civicFL 12-19-2002 09:28 AM

Hoobastank never heard of them? there website is http://www.hoobastank.com/v4/index.asp
there always on the radio there newer stuff is like alternative rock but older stuff is like heavyer rock. Do a Kazaa search Hoobastank - crawling in the dark (thats on the radio all the time)

Later
Bryan

Wren57 12-19-2002 07:12 PM

150 shot of nitrous on a stock 3.9L Dodge v6... hmm good luck with that one... hope you have some spare engine parts sitting around:crazy:

guywithastang 12-19-2002 11:35 PM

what is so slow about a 14.2? an LS1 only runs in the low 13s and the 2003 gt can run a 13.8 of the lot. Remember, it is not how fast you run, its weather your dad can beat up my dad. and I doubt it:pfft:

96civicFL 12-20-2002 07:43 AM

I know my boy dont know how to drive he was driving his dads car and hes only 16 and has been driving for like 1 month.

my truck and hold together with 100 shot on stock internals 150 small mods needed but still pulls it off. I know a guy that has a fully built 93 V6 dakota thats runing a supercharger and a 250 shot of juice (HIS IS NOT CLOSE TO STOCK INTERNALS but oh well)

BTY SVT Stock I can to take a 90 4 banger LX Easy Done that and a V6 easy. Stock I do have problems keeping up with the 8's well more then a small problem .

Addict 12-20-2002 07:51 AM

I guess its possible. Especially if the guy was drinking.

93 Dakota LE 4WD
Base Engine Size: 3.9 liters
Base Engine Type: V6
Horsepower: 180 hp
Max Horsepower: 4800 rpm
Torque: 225 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 3200 rpm
Weight: 3653 lbs.

02 Mustang GT
Base Engine Size: 4.6 liters
Base Engine Type: V8
Horsepower: 260 hp
Max Horsepower: 5250 rpm
Torque: 302 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 4000 rpm
Weight: 3379 lbs

96civicFL 12-21-2002 10:22 PM

I am not a 4WD ;)

Slip 01-01-2003 04:31 PM

A stock Mustang GT is not that fast. Who ever said they run a 14 flat is out their minds. Those are high 14 to low 15 second cars.

ford50forlife 01-01-2003 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Slip
A stock Mustang GT is not that fast. Who ever said they run a 14 flat is out their minds. Those are high 14 to low 15 second cars.


nope just you my friend.... :yes:

oh and HIGH 14 LOW 15 IS STILL 2 seconds quicker than the truck in question....

stock 5spd's do low 14's stock autos do mid to high 14

guywithastang 01-01-2003 11:06 PM

my auto runs a 14.5 with just an exhaust mod, not new exhaust, just a modification to the stock exhaust. and that is the "claimed" slow 98 gt

ford50forlife 01-02-2003 01:39 PM

keep in mind in slips world thats not possible :bandit:

Slip 01-02-2003 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ford50forlife
nope just you my friend.... :yes:

oh and HIGH 14 LOW 15 IS STILL 2 seconds quicker than the truck in question....

stock 5spd's do low 14's stock autos do mid to high 14




Your right, I was mistaken stock 99 and up GT's do run low 14's, stock 94-98 GT's run high 14's to low 15's.

So yes a stock 99 and up GT is pretty quick. And stock 98 and under GT's are not that quick.

ford50forlife 01-02-2003 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slip
Your right, I was mistaken stock 99 and up GT's do run low 14's, stock 94-98 GT's run high 14's to low 15's.

So yes a stock 99 and up GT is pretty quick. And stock 98 and under GT's are not that quick.



yea i really didnt like sn95's cause those are ALWAYS the ones getting eat up by every stock import ever.... HELL THE new accord 6spd does mid 14's ITS PATHETIC on the 4.6L SOHC's part!!!

Slip 01-02-2003 02:49 PM

Whats up with Ford and their Mustangs. If a stock 99 and up GT has 260hp and runs low 14's, than whats up with the 305hp Mach 1 only running a 14 flat, and the mid 90's 320hp Cobra's only running 14 flat. Now I hear that the 03 SVT Cobra's have engine problems.

SVT Cobra 01-02-2003 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slip
Whats up with Ford and their Mustangs. If a stock 99 and up GT has 260hp and runs low 14's, than whats up with the 305hp Mach 1 only running a 14 flat, and the mid 90's 320hp Cobra's only running 14 flat. Now I hear that the 03 SVT Cobra's have engine problems.


mach 1 has done 13.4 and hit highj 12's on drag radials STOCK. dont go by what magazines say... PLEASE. 96-98 cobra's have hit 13.7 stock with 305 hp. 99 & 01 hit 13.5 with 320hp.
and the 03 is brand new still so it will have some problems... its mainly an over heating prob. ford fixes it tho. that car is still real good.

Slip 01-03-2003 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SVT Cobra
mach 1 has done 13.4 and hit highj 12's on drag radials STOCK. dont go by what magazines say... PLEASE. 96-98 cobra's have hit 13.7 stock with 305 hp. 99 & 01 hit 13.5 with 320hp.
and the 03 is brand new still so it will have some problems... its mainly an over heating prob. ford fixes it tho. that car is still real good.




I call BS on all that shit you just said.....So you tryin to tell me that a stock non-supercharged Cobra is faster than a stock Camaro SS????.....I think not.

I know your a Mustang man an all but your numbers are quite optimisic from the actual facts.

The 96-98 Cobras runs low 14's, the 99-00 Cobras run 14 flat, and the mid 94-95 Cobras were running high 14's. It pretty widely known that Ford f*cked up on the early 90's Cobra's(along with the 94-98GT's) and alot of mid 90's to late 90'sCobras suffered from missing hp from the factory. Many Cobra owners reported this, even magazine companies reported this on their road test. This problem was not fixed untill 99.

ford50forlife 01-04-2003 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slip
I call BS on all that shit you just said.....So you tryin to tell me that a stock non-supercharged Cobra is faster than a stock Camaro SS????.....I think not.

I know your a Mustang man an all but your numbers are quite optimisic from the actual facts.

The 96-98 Cobras runs low 14's, the 99-00 Cobras run 14 flat, and the mid 94-95 Cobras were running high 14's. It pretty widely known that Ford f*cked up on the early 90's Cobra's(along with the 94-98GT's) and alot of mid 90's to late 90'sCobras suffered from missing hp from the factory. Many Cobra owners reported this, even magazine companies reported this on their road test. This problem was not fixed untill 99.



yea unfortunately new cobras non supercharged do do mid 13's, ive seen it at ENGLISHTOWN NEW JERSEY, and even car + driver, and ROad and track verify it.... sorry about the ls1 though, mags only say it does high 13's but stock you can get 12's out of em....
the late 96-98 cobras only did 14.0 stock... havent seen 13's outta em.. but ive actually seen a sprayed 97 mystic cobra at the track only do 13.7 LOFL with a 50shot....

and as for the mid 90's COBRAs... they were UNDERRATED, YES UNDERRATED..... because the stock 5.0 had 225hp AND RESPONDS WELL TO MODS, the COBRA VERSION OF THE MOTOR HAD a bigger CAM( MORE HP), GT-40 HEADS (MORE HP), 1.72 roller rockers for .30 more lift (MORE HP), and FRPP cobra 5.0 intake manifold upper andlower (MORE HP)..... so your on drugs if you think CAM, INTAKE, AND HEADS give only 20 hp.....

the missing hp can be found in the 99 only cobras INTAKE MANIFOLD which explains the LACK OF 00 COBRAS DRIVING AROUND.... CAUSE THERE ARE NONE! FORD TAKES PRIDE IN quality and will go to that extent to help save face even if they lose massive money

UNLIKE CHEVY ON THE OTHER HAND that let people die before going to court and then ARGUEING and then finally changing on there own anyway... (ANYONE REMEMBER THE PICKUP TRUCKS WITH THE GAS TANK OVER THE FRAME RAILS???)

you act like you know about ford but you actually need to do your homework...

SVT Cobra 01-04-2003 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slip
I call BS on all that shit you just said.....So you tryin to tell me that a stock non-supercharged Cobra is faster than a stock Camaro SS????.....I think not.

I know your a Mustang man an all but your numbers are quite optimisic from the actual facts.

The 96-98 Cobras runs low 14's, the 99-00 Cobras run 14 flat, and the mid 94-95 Cobras were running high 14's. It pretty widely known that Ford f*cked up on the early 90's Cobra's(along with the 94-98GT's) and alot of mid 90's to late 90'sCobras suffered from missing hp from the factory. Many Cobra owners reported this, even magazine companies reported this on their road test. This problem was not fixed untill 99.


ive seen slips.. go check out a mustang forum.... 96-98 have gone 13's. ford even claimed a 13.9. 99 cobra had the intake problem. so none were made in 00 except for the R. then 01 had all the bugs fixed and easily hit mid 13's. 96-98 GTs, well they just plain suck. the 5.0's all have potential and so does the dohc 4.6. as for Trans Ams and camaros.... don't go by what magazines say. me and dan saw a 01 SS automatic do a 13.15 stock (maybe had intake, but thats it).

Spitz 01-04-2003 06:34 PM

drunken racing is never good smart idea to get out of there

lucky 01-04-2003 09:45 PM

Formula's run 13.2 stock, cobra's run right behind them! Magazines are ALLWAYS giving different #'s. Dont count on them. Does not matter whether its a 1997-2000 GT, they all have ran 14.5-14.8!! Ive been to the track and have personally seen them run these #'s, and they allways have exhaust work done to them. Not to get into the middle of this discusion between you two but depending on the driver you will allways get different 1/4 mile times(2-3 tenths sec.). 65% driver and 35% car gets you the good 1/4 mile times! Good luck!

ford50forlife 01-04-2003 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by lucky
Formula's run 13.2 stock, cobra's run right behind them! Magazines are ALLWAYS giving different #'s. Dont count on them. Does not matter whether its a 1997-2000 GT, they all have ran 14.5-14.8!! Ive been to the track and have personally seen them run these #'s, and they allways have exhaust work done to them. Not to get into the middle of this discusion between you two but depending on the driver you will allways get different 1/4 mile times(2-3 tenths sec.). 65% driver and 35% car gets you the good 1/4 mile times! Good luck!


dunno what track you go to bro but from MY experience with them, and my experiences at the track, i can tell you 99-00gt's will stomp that... stock.... funny how you keep the times just .03 seconds BEHIND your car.... i also would love to know what else you got to get a 103.2 trap... you must have like a 2.4-2.6 60 ft time and like i low to mid 9 1/8th mile.... what do you do to gain 15-17mph in the 1/4 mile with a 50 shot and boltons on a duratec motor?

96civicFL 01-07-2003 08:37 AM

ok I will tell you guys what I have..............

3.9 V6
2/4drop, 2000 Durango rims, rods.pistons, tuned/polished crank, KRC port/polished heads, Double Roller chain, KRC200 Cam (200/206-504/512 112ls), Mopar R/T springs, 1.6 Mopar RR, Ported and Powedercoated intake manifold, Custom Fastman 50mm TB, 14x3 K&N, Jet stage 2 Chip, 93 HO manifolds and Y pipe, Catco cat, 3in exhaust, Flowmaster with Cuda tips, MSD6a, BlasterSS coil, MSD 8.5mm wires, asp underdrive pulley, 93 return style fuel system, 24# FMS inj, Hurst Shifter, Centerforce dual friction Clutch, 3.90 gears 1/ suregrip. Front/Rear Suspention Technque sway bars,

On a real good day with slicks and 100shot I get high 12's. With out juice and slicks. I get like mid/high 13's. My best was a 12.85@106.7mph

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