not a chance
 

PART ONE

well today, i was heading to the local import shop and i passed a audi 1.8T. i couldnt hear over my broke exhuast so i didnt notice him rev at me. i kept going a even 45. i look over he was next to me. i then realized it was the guy whom i saw at the track opening 2 weeks ago. we hit a light. we both just let it loose and off we were. he didnt pull and neither did i. he beat me to the next light however by 1/2 car. i was so surprised he didnt hand me my ass. it was also kinda of wet out side from the snow.


PART TWO

i was leaving the shop and a mexican in a 92 Protege with a fart cannon and some huge wing was leaving at the sametime. he pulled out after i did. he took off and looked at me like i dont stand a chance when he was passing me at 30mph. so i slowly step on it. so i would spin my tires in the water and gain speed gradually. i got next to him at 40-50. look at him and took off. all i could see was a angry mexican trying to keep up.

i could tell his foot was completely to floor and he was bobbing forward on the wheel as if it would help him catch up. then i saw him slap his fist on the wheel in shame.

Yeah, I bet the guy's race in #2 really made a difference to your story :rolleyes: Amazing kill. :rolleyes:

Audi 1.8 what? TT? If so it was a 180hp i assume non quattro

it was a audi A4 1.8T AWD Turbo.

:confused: i can understand the first 2nd race but the first one i didn't think ludes were that quick...

the 1.8T only has 150HP were as my jdm H22 has 200 i also have more TQ.

you also have to remember it was wet outside.

right it was outside....meaning you more tq and 2 wheel drive at a dead stop would mean spinning from you while his 150 AWD wouldnt slip uncontrollably and leave you spinning.....Im not saying that you didnt actaully do this because i know dingos civic before he sold hung with a TT. Also i think that all audis are awd just not all turbo. Good kill on that second one though

ummm if that audi is stock than it's pretty slow my best friend has a tuned one with a K04 turbo, exhaust, chip and he's probably around 230-240hp, so like 200 to the wheels. the stocks ones are slow as shit

hmm... lost to a 1.8t? shitty. they always seemed a bit slow. get that damn exaust leak fixed:cool:

Sucks u lost to the audi man but good kill on the second one.

i know i got to get the Exhuast fixed. its fucking me up.


plus my tires are almost shot! i just check them to today while cleaning my car. the got atleast 1-1.5K left on them!

ya, the quattro version only has 225 if i'm not mistaken.

This is kinda like when you arguing with me telling me that all the stats i found (like 7 webpages) were wrong and that the TT actualy is faster.

I can find you 8 webpages of bullshit if you like. Yes yes... I remember how you demonstrated to us all how the internet owns and runs your life. BTW you car runs 20 in the 1/4 cause webpage said so.

I know what my car runs.. thanks, come again.

Hmm internet runs my life? I spent maybe two minutes on google to find those specs, as a matter of fact a couple other people said the exact same thing. Just since you own one it is quicker.

I guess vtracer up there is wrong to huh?

Someday god willing, i can be lucky enough to get the 1 car that is faster than every other one.

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How did you know he was mexican? Did he have a Mexican flag on his car, somewhere?

...to those who care...Audii TT's look like sperm w/o tails!!!

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Uh.. you are the last person to talk about who's car is ugly. Your car ties with a ford focus as ugliest fucking car on earth. And the

225 TT does mid 14 in the 1/4 while yours does 16s =( I would rather ride a pink bike with a basket on it than your 3.

as for was he mexian. I dont Know he look liked it to me. so i dont affend anymore people let me correct myself. He was a hispanic.

V8killimports,

Originally when we argued about this you were saying they run low 14s, even though some 7 people said they didn't. Now your changing to mid 14s? Which is it?

a 14 is a 14 imo. low mid or high. its still fast for a stock car imo.

I am using an average.. they have run low to high 14s.. just like I said before.. but capable of low 14s. And it's the wife's car anyways.

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Focus my A$$...My ride is sweet...I also paid A LOT less than I would a TT..for 2 sec...Id rather add HP with the $8K plus I saved from not buying the SUPER SPERM!

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Focus my A$$...My ride is sweet...I also paid A LOT less than I would a TT..for 2 sec...Id rather add HP with the $8K plus I saved from not buying the SUPER SPERM!

When's the last time the wife ran low 14s?

The car doesn't run any 14s. Search for my old thread i quoted like 17 differnt website including audiworld.com, and like 20 other people agreed with me and they all said it was a mid to high 15 second car.

But you will never ever make him belive that, so you might as well save your time.

There spent 2 minutes on google






There ya have. Ive never seen these sites before so you add that to the other 17. But i really don't care anymore, and will hit the unsubscribe button on my way out

Cmon V8 the car weighs almost 3,000lbs with 180 hp at the crank.

You just found times for the 180hp model.. Congrats moron. Keep searching.

http://forums.audiworld.com/tt/msgs/940278.phtml

This article compares the TT to the S2000. Talks about how the 225 can dip into the "5s" in 0-60 if launched properly:
http://www.audiworld.com/features/roadtests.html

http://www.fast-autos.net/audi/auditt.html

http://www.syclone.freeserve.co.uk/rivals_cars.htm

And as a side note, our Audi cost less than a fully loaded Honda Accord.

lol zoomzoom 3 what a joke...

anywho.. funny kill I wouldnt be racing around in the wet conditions anyways. No matter people... either way its all jokes

I thought we were talking about 1.8t... It looks like you have to dume the clutch at 5k rpm in the audi to get decen times..... So im willing to bet real world audis aren't that fast.

my fully load accord does 0-60 in 5.9 and the 1/4 mile right around 14.2. Not to mention they are underrated and put almost as much power to the wheels as the 225 audi is rated for. And triple the options of the audi. Im not comparing cars I honestly don't care.

I would never own the TT its too small for me. And im not fond of the of the looks, however an new S4 i wouldn't mind, or even the old school twin turbo S4

We are talking about the 1.8T. And what options does your accord come with?

As for dumping the clutch, that's what you call knowing your car.. revving to the RPM that will not break the tires loose, and will give you the best launch.

The accord comes with 6 disc in dash cd changer, touch screen navi, heated seats, Traction control, voice command, Homelink system, 6 speed, dual climate control, power seat, and thats all i can think of off the top of my head....





And its nowhere near cheaper, edmunds as the msrp at 35k for the 1.8t!

Thats crazy, MSRP for my car is is 28 9, loaded like i listed above. i got it for 27,9. Even talking the dealer down on the TT youd be luck to see 33.

Our TT was 31,000. We have the same options minus the navigation which was not worth an extra $2000, plus all wheel drive. Matter of preference I guess. We just wanted a sports car over a family sedan.

Im just saying if we are get that difernt of time, then aprantly you must be a really decent driver to pull time that your quoting.

Well... Mine isn't a family sedan, as a matter of fact my car will more than likely out handle your car. and i couldn't justfiy an addtinal 4k for less options and a slower car, but i guess thats just me.


*edit* yep, you car is around a .81 g where as my car is an .86....


So for a slower car with less options and handles worse for 5k more......So tell me where i lost out?

And audiuse.com has the car equaly equiped like mine for 38,9. So you must have been giving the deal blow jobs to get your car for that price. Hell the 6 sp is a 1.5k upgrade. Which i assume you don't have.....

drdingo21 I'm a real honda fan, its too bad they sold one to you. Theres no need to come around here putting down a TT over your accord. They arent in the same class either. As for your accord, yes they are good value. NO ones questioning that.

Sounds like you wanted more car but couldnt get it. Hey dude, compaired to the RL i used to own yuor accord sucks. And a nice 545i comaired to my RL is better yet. See how it works, there are different levels/classes of cars. You have a family sedan, the TT isnt and you pay a price of a sports car. Get over your great accord and thats for coming out.

Exactly.. not knocking the accord.. we actually looked at one, but couldn't see paying the same (or even close to it). And we prefered a sports car as opposed to a family sedan, which yes I sorry to say, your is.

As for out handling the TT.. are you on crack? And yes the 180hp comes with a 5spd, while the 225 has a 6 speed.

As for the price, we bought ours in December, a 2002 model that was still brankd new, 1 of 2 2002s left than we bought at close to dealer price which is what the dealer itself pays for cars. This must be your first new car as you most likely got raped by the dealer.

And lastly... as for your car running 14.2.. who the hell lied to you??

Here is your link, check it out:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/...edans_data.pdf

Try high 15s in the 1/4. 15.7 to be exact. lol

With the exception of the 6 spd., that's a whole lotta crap I can do without. Navigation? Buy a map. Traction control? Learn to drive in bad weather. Heated seats? My ass is warm enough. Voice command? Geez...just reach over and touch the damn thing. Dual climate control? One A/C system is enough for me. Power seats? I can move my own. Oh...and I can change my CDs all by myself.

From where I'm sitting you guys both paid too much for what you got. Hell, for less than what either of you paid I could've gone out and bought a nicely equipped 260hp GT. Now I'm sure someone will look around and try to find a site saying the even the GT is slower than brand X, but I've babied an '03 to a low 14. All of that being said...I think I'd drive the TT over an Accord. Nothing against Accords...I'm just not a huge fan of family sedans.

First of all don't assume what i could afford. The IS 300 and the G 35, and S4 were the other candidates. My insurance on the S4 was probly more than you bring home a month ($934).
As a matter of fact I made a thread between the S4 and Is300. Money was no object.
I like audi, and have nothing against it, i was just saying its extremely unlikely a 1.8t is running those times.
He brought up value not me.
I mean even common sense with the power to weight ratio. And looking around a little more, there are sites saying the TT weighs as much as my car. So you have 60+ less horse power and run the same times as the accord?

Im just having a hard time spending more money on something that is less.
And you also don't seem to get it. The accord ex v6 shares nothing with the sedan, they are two totally different cars. And if the TT is a sports cars its pretty sad a "sedan" is faster, better handling, and more options for about 8k less.....



And im not bragging about my car, HE brought it up not me.


And it seems both of you misunderstand the definition of sedan. My car is a coupe. The car is completely redesigned and shares NOTHING with the sedan.

I quoted handling by skid pad numbers, nothing more. I dunno the slalom speed of the TT, but also there is no slalom for the accord either.

And my 1/4 times, i was quoting what people were getting in real life. Not what road and track got. If you would like i can direct you to 15+ threads with time slips posted. Actually, heres one

There have been a couple at 14.1s, but most are around 14.2-14.4

And there are sedans with just an intake running 14.5s.... So you better get your figures straight.

And to clarify one more time. Before you start talking shit about a car, you should at least know what car it is.
The accord ex v6 never came in a sedan. ever.

god dam it GT. you posted while i was typing, but the ex v6 is not made in sedan. at all.

When i got the car i was going for luxury and performance. I also looked at MB, but the dealer was an asshole. So i ruled them, didn't get the g35 because there were no local dealers and the is was just slow. Unless it was boosted, but at the time i didn't want to buy the car and then send it away for 1.5-2 months (what the install time was for the turbo at the time). So i just went with the accord.

Coupe...sedan...it's still a grocery getter.

Just like the mustang is a girls car and a pile of shit:thumbsup:

First off you are really starting to sound like an idiot.

A) You say it's unlikely that my car runs those times, yet I have found and showed you sites stating mid 14s by reputable testers.

B) You tell me your car runs 14.1 because you found it in some thread written by some other idiot who thinks his FAMILY sedan is a race car.

C) You car runs 15.7.. fastest I have found on the net so far.

You can will not out handle mine. I can guarantee you better weight distribution, as well as quattro and 4 wheel traction control... not just 2 wheel. And on a side note, we chose the TT over the 350Z because it completely out handled the Z. Your car cost $8000 less than mine?? Well not including tax and all the other misc crap you have to pay, that comes out to $23000. I doubt you paid $23000.. as for options, wife wanted what she wanted. Didn't want the navigation, and everything came with it. Kinda hard to choose options when we were looking for last years model, in a specific colors, with specific options. And I dunno if you can compare things like the premium Bose system that came in the TT to your honda system lol.

We chose the TT also because we liked the european sports car sound and feel to it..

If you drive something like an accord you might as well get something cheap an economical like the civic.. or a stratus. And you need to get the figures straight on your own car. Show me where it says your car runs 14.2 STOCK, and not by some random idiot.

Yes...my 650hp Accord destroying piece of shit girl's car. Whatever you say man.:flick:

lol

and i showed you sites stating differnt. And how come im sound like an idiot when you post the site, but when i post this sites its because "i live on the internet". Kinda a hyprcirt huh?

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B) You tell me your car runs 14.1 because you found it in some thread written by some other idiot who thinks his FAMILY sedan is a race car.

I don't think you understand, we aren't talking about the sedan. we are talking about ex v6. thats like me saying your TT is the VW beetle. idiot

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C) You car runs 15.7.. fastest I have found on the net so far.

oh. Alright. And again you an idiot.

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First run ever: 14.562 @ 95.34 mph My launch was pretty decent: 2.279 60 foot- I let out relatively slowly at about 2000 rpms and had mad wheel hop (thank you Honda for no LSD ) My 1->2->3 shifts were good but my 3->4 was too early, and it sucks I had to shift right before hitting the 1/4 mile mark (my 3->4 shiftpoint is 92 mph).

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Saw a stock 7th gen. run a 14.1 at E-Town Sunday. I spoke to the guy later that day and I told him about this site. Hope he posts his slip here. I couldn't believe it was stock! Those 6 speeds are pretty damn quick!

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75 degrees and 80% humidity R/T .855 60' 2.33 330 5.996 1/8 9.105 MPH 78.95 1000 11.905 1/4 14.311 MPH 98.69 I ran a total of 7 times ( 3-14.3's, 2-14.4's, 1-14.5's, and one 14.703 w/2.6 60' time

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2nd run. Skipped the water, did a dry whole shot. Launched at about 1000rpm and went into the throttle real easy. As the tires spun, I kind of feathered the throttle. Tires still spun too much, but turned out the best run out of the 4. r/t .265 60' 2.241 330 5.967 1/8 8.983 mph 79.16 1000 11.640 1/4 13.845 mph 102.02 With some wider tires, like a 245/40 on a 17x8in. rim, I dont see what would stop me from lowering my 60' down in the 2.oxx time and get me a 13.6x 1/4. I would be able to launch around 1200-1500rpm and wot, plus I would be running a smaller diameter tire for quicker rpms and my wheel/tire combo would be a little lighter then what I have now. 3rd run. I thought I would be able to beat my 2nd run and got to anxious on the throttle. Again, couldnt keep control of the tires spinning. r/t .511 60' 2.592 330 6.591 1/8 9.671 mph 77.22 12.365 1/4 14.606 mph 99.93

This guy wasn't stock, intake and exhast, and hyper ground wires.
http://board.accordtuner.com/showthread.php?t=7014 Notice a trend here?

And for kicks heres a comparsion on the sedan, i bolded the intresting part.

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Originally posted by SteVTEC I developed a custom Excel application that will auto plot about a zillion different things all by just entering in the dynos and basic specifications for two different cars. I decided to give it a test run on these two cars because I was curious about it myself. 2003 Honda Accord V6 Sedan 5AT vs 2004 Acura TL 5AT So we start off with the two stock dynos for the Accord V6 5AT and the new 04 TL 5AT from VTEC.net and dump them into Excel. Power is nice, but the power to weight ratio is what really matters because a heavier car needs more power to accelerate it at the same rate as a lighter car. Basic F=ma physics. So that gives us the two plots below. Powerband Analysis Just as important as "how much" peak horsepower or torque you have is "where" exactly it is made. Although this can be seen in the main dyno comparison chart, there is also an 0.2L displacement difference here, so what we can do is normalize the torque output vs RPM of the engines to a percentage of their maximum and then plot over all RPM. The result is below. Now it's much easier to see the advantage of the TL's variable intake manifold since this shows that the TL is able to produce a higher percentage of its peak torque over a wider range than the AV6 can. Again, this is especially important for initial off the line acceleration. So What are The Numbers? My Excel application does a pretty good job of creating lots of comparison charts and various analysis' relative to the two cars. But to get hard numbers, CarTest Software is still the best option. My application basically derived the "core" of CarTest and allowed me more flexibility to make different types of analysis'. But CarTest does many more things. By feeding it all of the same specs and chassis dyno data and calculating itself what I did here, it will then take that data and also estimate weight transfer and launch traction (60' times), torque converter multiplying effects, shift times, and then it can finally give you the "hard" numbers that you're looking for, and that is as follows. continued in next post.....

Look at the dynos, keep in mind stock the ex v6 is putting right around 212 to the wheels.

sigh.... again i went by skid pad numbers
I did a car that campares to my car (ie: same options). Not your stipped down model.
And the "crappy honda system" is Bose.... see there you go again talking about shit you know nothing about.

Right. and where was you slip? I missed it.

Yea, i was trying to show you the concept of opinions, but it apparently went over you head. Its not your fault your slow.

I always thought you were a person that had/used common sense..... Sorry i was mistaken.

See now reading this and the last post shows simply that you are full of shit, and just frustrated that you bought a piece of shit.

Thread complete.

ok...

Your right, again i wish i could have paid 8k more for a TT. dam it....

And once your audi gets to about 55k miles start post every week when you have to take it into the shop