The fact that Iraq poses a major threat to the middle east makes them a threat to the rest of the world. It is a smart move of our govt to deal with this problem now instead of after Saddam takes over his surrounding neighbors and becomes more powerfull/aquires more weapons.

If you think that the US should not engage in this you are wrong.

Germany never DIRECTLY attacked us before we entered the 2nd world war, so i guess we should have just stayed out of the European theater and just fought Japan.

please elaborate, you fail to make teh sence

Sorry about that, i meant to type that Since Iraq is a major threat to the MIDDLE EAST makes them a threat to the rest of the world.

he was attacking other countries ACTIVELY, and occupying them... similar to waht saddam did in kuwait.. but we drove him out of kuwait.. SO... i still fail to see the comparison...

Ahem...Japan was Germany's main ally. Your ally attacked us means you attacked us.

And if anyone brings up the :bs: that Osama and Saddam are allies I will bug out.

So, if we are allies with France, and we attack Iraq, then France has also attacked Iraq?

hey anyone know the BIGGEST similarity between saddam and hitler.. i bet you don't.. lol ill post it in a few minutes.. see if any of you can guess..

umm, they both wanna take over the world?

ps - oc civic - what's your nitrous shot at? Just wondering.

Yes, its called guilty by association...
;)

the bush family has had STRONG trade and money relationships with both HITLER, AND SADDAM...


http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

interesting the MORE you dig the MORE crooked people are.. im starting to think this MIGHT just be about money after all.. lol

If France and us have been traipsing all over the globe taking over other nations previously? Absolutely.

Der

i run a 60 OR 70 depending on how im feeling.. lol its adjustable from 50-70

mother of ownage :yes:

hmm whys it so quiet all of the sudden...;)

because you cannot have a decent hoest reply about the bush family intentions after that tid-bit of information... maybe:cool:

Oh yeah. See, I always tend to think that people already know this. I forget that not many are aware.:cool:

i guess the bush family is not too concerned with Humanity, and the suffering of a nation when it is lining there pockets... eh.. no real surprise there.... TYPICAL politician...

:yes: Pretty much..:crazy:

Feelin' hot hot hot!

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Huh?

I just needed to add something that I found amusing. All these tense arguments suck.

I'm with ya there. So thanks then. :yes:

lets keep this thread to a whore minimum. it is a good debate we are having, and i dont want to see it lost because of a few pages of whorage

Just trying to lighten up I think he was. No biggie, better than all out fighting. Though that will be back in a minute I'm sure. :yes:

i just dont want this to get way off topic and lose the great debate going on.

Quite true, this is a good debate - plus those pages of whoring [motivation?] helped me get over 400 posts lol.

But yes, i am glad we have not gotten too out of hand over this discussion.

Well, to get us back on track here's something i just thought of:

If you see an Old deffensless Lady getting beat up by somebody Half your size, what would you do?

Would you say, "that guy is not a threat to me, so i will not attack him, after all, i have gotten into fights before." ???

of corse not, if you had any decency, you would help the old lady out and kick the ______ outta that guy who's no where near as big as you.

You could look at the people Saddam opresses as the Old defenseless lady, and we are the United States - what is the right thing to do?

"opposition to your beliefs only makes you question who you are"

the point i AND chris make.. is are you SURE who the bully really is...?????? look at the US gov, and tell me in ALL honesty its not guilty of being the bully on MORE than SEVERAL occasions...

and on a side note would you attack the bully if you thought that his bully friends would come back and kill your family and children in there sleep??? im fron philedelphia, go there and try that shit.. go intervene in a mugging... ill bring flowers to your funeral;)

OC just hit the bullseye. i dont have anything to add to that.

im just more blown away by the hitler/buch connection, and both bushes doing business in the 80's with saddam. since we are going off of what saddam did in the past to justify this war, we MUST look at what the buishes have also done in the past, and must wonder the motive of this war.

Thats not the way to think - if you hit the bully hard enough, his friends will wimp out because bullies do not have "true friends" they make "friends" by creating fear.

Dunno about that.. Have you ever met a real thug? They usually fear nothing. Your just going to get jumped. Most of them never feel pain anyhow.:no:

If everybody is in the wrong, then you should not even bother arguing this topic - if all govts are evil and cannot redeme themselves - then its no wonder why you see this as a bad idea.

tell me something - you are probably a fan of socialism? just wondering - i mean if the entire world were under one govt, and everybody had the same things regardless, then all our problems would be solved?

Just wondering

On a little different note...

Has anyone else noticed that since they started bombing Iraq stocks have been in the green?:paranoid: :o

For those of us who are finance-illiterate, could you tell us what "green" means?

hmmm that took me about 30 mintues to read everyones post....i cant really add anything but nice wording props to chris and oc civic...so now money is involved in this war? or did i read wrong...lol:mad: and im starting to believe oil isnt the issue either...apprantly its all on fire right now lol meh....keep it up guys good debating..should start a world class team ;) :rolleyes: :yes: :cool:

Green is good..
Red is bad... :D

Stocks have seen positive growth for the last 8 days. This hasnt happened since Nov. 1996.:eek:

wow^^ that is weird huh...wonder why..

Ill pass.. I only debate by myself..;) :D