:D ummmm, i never said not to, nor did i ever say ask me first. so in that retrospect you my friend can just kiss my azz. as for not knowing about antipsychotic meds, i do know alot about them i have had to take many classes in regards to them. (due to my job) and also when i was in highschool many years ago a freind of mine was on antiseizure meds and he decided one night to be cool and smoke with us, not long after he did he was being lifelfighted to the hospital. that night he had a a 45 minute grand mal, and that led into a stroke. he is still not back to baseline 6 years later.

oh and melteye saying they effect different parts of the brain...since when did brain waves and chemicals become secluded to one area?

if marijuana was all this safe wouldnt ya think it would be legalized by now? ;)

you dont know anything about pot.. and if that kid was hanging out with you he was probably doing a speedball just to get through it, this is pointless

I'm sorry ohiochica, but there is no polite way of putting this... That post was extremely ignorant.

Have a nice day.

Edit: Your entire brain doesn't perform one function, thinking that it does reminds me of a first grader. There are different receptors for different substances, schizophrenic activity peaks in the frontal lobes, etc. Get your facts straight.

The only serious side effect of taking divalproex sodium and certain strains of marijuana is extreme sedation... Which obviously isn't a problem in this case.

You don't know how much you just pissed me off with this statement. Do you know how many HORRIBLE medications are used every single day? Do you know the ****ing horrible side effects they can cause, and many of which I have personally experienced?

Look up Lithium and Diazepam... Read carefully and thuroughly.

Have you ever suffered from bipolar disorder? Have you ever gone through such a long and hard episode of depression that it's hard to breath... How about suffering from a dissociative disorder for 4 years and barely remember anything you've done or what horrible things are going on in your other life? Or not knowing what to beleive or what not to beleive...

I don't ****ing think so.

If you think all legal things are healthy for you or are better then ones that are illegal then you have serious problems...

PS: Didn't mean to sound that rude... Just had a very "strange" life and have had alot of bad experiences with legal medication.

if you dont mind i would rather discuss my personal life in a pm. but for teh most part to your questions......YES.

sorry for flying off the handle earlier, weed is a hot topic for me and has caused many horrific events in my life.

as for this thread, my intention was not to piss people off, so in that retrospect i am done with it entirely. if you would care to take this to pm thats fine if not please understand we have come from basically the same side of the street.

oh and no i dont believe all legal things are safe.......one major one is vaccines! and another like you mentioned is lithium. but ya know whgat it has helped way too many bp people to be discontinued.

Geez. You guys are really into arguing about this aren't you?

You're never going to convince the other side to believe your views. Especially on the Internet.

Some like it. Some don't. Some smoke. Some won't. Its all about preferences. Try not to control what others do. If you do you'll spend far too much time & energy on them instead of yourself.

Well I'm out for the night............

My point is that Marijuana has helped me in many ways, and medication that was given to me for the last 8 years has done horrible things to my mind.

I know where your coming from though, I spent about 150 hours interviewing and evaluating drug addicts (mostly cocaine and heroine) and their stories weren't very nice... Disturbed me greatly.

And Civic, I'm not trying to make people who dislike pot go out and get high :) I'm just trying to lessen the insults towards responsible marijuana users.

I have bipolar disorder, marijuana helps me through the lows and allows me to remember childhood events better so I can deal with the memories. I have schizophrenia... Marijuana doesn't make this better but it makes corner-eye visuals less disturbing and not a big deal. Even if they are more frequent while high, but I don't recommend smoking marijuana if you have schizophrenia, some people can't handle the "20%" increase in psychotic activity while high. I am also obsessive compulsive, while high and 7-8 hours after the high OCD is not apparent in my behavior. I am anorexic, when I get stressed out I can't eat... If I try I gag. Obviously marijuana fixes that + a bunch :) Gained 10 pounds and I'm now a healthy weight.

What I dislike about marijuana is that for the first 40 minutes of being high it's harder to follow movie storylines... But my longterm memory increases an extraordinary amount. I also dislike the feeling of being slow, which can be fixed by lowering the dosage... But I need enough to stop my migraines which come daily so thats not an option.

The medication that was given to me for migraines and bipolar for two months was Vicodin (5mg hydrocodone 500mg acetaminophen). This drug makes me feel happy, it makes me eat more, it makes my mind clearer and schizophrenia stops completely... While on Vicodin I feel NORMAL... I'm not thinking about how horrible the world is... I'm just focusing on whats happening around me... and enjoying life.

Too bad it damages your liver... and is a very addictive drug with many side effects (mostly from longterm use... which isnt legal). So continuing on that medication was not an option.

Have to deal with what you can find... And so far after dozens of pills and shots (doctors, not illegal drug use) with no luck I found two drugs that work... Opiates (Hydrocodone) fix everything, and Marijuana fix's most and adds a few more small problems.

melteye,

Man that's pretty ****ed up. Prescription drugs are horrible. I definately see your side.:yes:

I mean when they prescribe something to resolve one issue and it creates 2 or 3 more, what the hell is the point? I personally refuse to take prescription drugs. I also don't take OTC drugs unless its an absolute need. I barely will take anything for headaches. There's natural ways to solve almost anything.

melteye.....
what is bipolar disorder? i have no idea about it except i heard ben stiller suffers from it too...and
have you ever seen a show on hbo called inside bellevue? its about the emergency room in new yorks bellevue asylum..its pretty interesting and really scary

either way.... as long as you keep it im moderation.... dont go over board wit it

Bipolar disorder (Manic-Depressive Disorder) is a mental disorder that causes extreme mood swings from depression to mania.

It can actually be a lot more invoved than that.. it leads to DID and all sorts of other mental disorders, serious suicidal thoughts/attempts and at many points not being able to tell if you're halucinating or something is reality.

not fun stuff, but VERY common... more people have it then know about it and it's usually not that severe of course....

just from personal experience .. I have done it

Dont get me wrong, it was fun at the time, but I no longer do it.

I never did a lot of it, but a friend of mine woke up in the morning smoking a bowl, and had 2-3 throughout the day. He is someone I no longer hang out with, but I know that he likely still does MJ...

here's how my life went...

I stopped doing it, saved money.. got a good job.. and am now a manager at a HUGE company. When I got hired, they did a drug test, and here is the interesting part. I found out from the doctor who took hair from my chest to test, that in GENERAL companies other than law enforcement agencies, will only go back 3 months on your history. That is approximately 1 inch of hair for the general population. I however have VERY slow growing hair (yes yes.. im going bald) and had about 2 weeks before this test shaved my head down to 1/4 inch or so... so they had to take the hair from my chest. They didnt yank it, they actually cut it.. and they cut from various portions of my chest/stomach. I tested clean as I hadnt done MJ in like 3 years before that.

My friend however, works remedial jobs at gas stations and other places. I am not saying working at a gas station is bad.. but come on guys.. pay scales...

he makes less than 25k a year..

I make over 50...

now these facts aside.. I believe that law enforcement agencies will check back 1 year for controlled substances. This usually involves a spinal tap which can be painful as HELL. The main reason that BOBS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY company wont do this, is because the cost involved. spinal tap 500+ dollars.. hair test... 150$. If you are going to find out that the person tested positive, how much do you really want to spend?

The other side of this, is that after you have tested once for BOBS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY company, they generally wont ever test again, unless they have reason to suspect anything.. this can involve continually showing up late, sloppy appearance .. etc.

so your best bet if you choose to do this kind of thing, and I am not advocating this.. is keep aware of your self appearance as well as your odor. I can still tell when someone had smoked MJ by the scent on their clothes, and I am a ciggie smoker!

Just my 2 cents worth on the subject.

NewL

I dislike how you seem to think he is still in those type of jobs BECAUSE of marijuana.

dislike it all you want, facts are facts. He has applied for better jobs, and been turned down due to drugs in his system. All his money goes tward rent, and MJ.... the guy weighed 230 when I met him.. yes a little overweight.. but last time I saw him he was probably 170lbs... he is 6'8 for gods sake.. thats UNHEALTHY and he looked gaunt and pale... because he spends all his money on weed rather than food.

now tell me.. why I shouldnt think that MJ has caused these problems with him?

I am SURE that there are other things going on with him that I am not aware of, but here is the kicker.... none of this started until he started using MJ.

riddle me this batman.. what is the one thing that all of these things have in common?

now dont get me wrong, I am not saying that EVERYONE who uses it is likely to end up like this. I am not even saying that 25% of them are. What I am saying, is that HE did, and 1 person is enough for me to choose to not ever do it again.

With you, I understand that it helps you with your problems of bi-polar disorder among others, and I am glad that you have found something that can help you with these things as they are all very troubling diseases. again, I am GLAD that you have found that weed will help you with this, however.. I dont know you, and thus I cannot attribute your successes to my RL friends' failures.

This was a post tward Spaz who was asking who had/hadnt tried it, and I was telling him MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES with it. I was not looking for approval from you.

There is a reason I dont get into political discussions and it is because its all based on openion.. guess its time for me to add another to the politics column of things not to discuss... drugs.

We weren't discussing opinions... Read for yourself.

Eh... I'm done with the conversation anyways. As for the losing weight... Most people gain weight on marijuana. And the job I understand, but if marijuana wasn't illegal that problem would never exist... That "side effect" is from our government regulations, not marijuana.

You know what I mean? :o

Anyways, see you all later.