I liked that too.lol

me too

:toofunny: :toofunny: :bs:

jesus christ. You know they runs 15s? my civic ran high 15s low 16s. That would be hanging. My god. its like you don't have any common sense

stock ex? hahaha sure.:wave:

1/4 Mile ET 1/4 Mile MPH 1/8 Mile ET 1/8 Mile MPH 60 Foot ET Temp F Car Make Car Model Car Year Driver

15.000 91.000 73.000 7.300 Ford Mustang GT 1991 eddie

15.145 92.040 9.789 73.500 2.252 68.0 Ford Mustang GT 1998 Brandon Hall

15.200 92.000 Ford Mustang 2000 silver00v6

15.270 90.700 9.850 71.000 2.300 Ford Mustang 2000 jay

15.340 97.000 Ford Mustang 1965 Ed Jakawich

15.343* 88.660 9.777 72.030 2.240 39.0 Ford Mustang GT 1982 kyle magnuson

15.390 90.330 9.000 74.290 2.460 Ford Mustang GT 1994 Mr. J

15.440 92.800 61.0 Ford Mustang GT 1998 Craig Johannsen

15.944 89.070 10.366 70.530 2.621 89.0 Ford Mustang gt 1983 James Hartman


Yea they look like real speed deamons. Those are time from people not magiznes. There is about half a second differnce between them and the civic.

Before you start talking shit about something you nothing about (again) at least do a little researrch so you don't look like a complete idiot (again). Its painfuly obvious you have no idea what your saying (again).

wtf? a second is a huge difference. what was the last time you even been at the track? just f crist! keep it coming, im still laughin

yea a second is. but its less then half a second differnce moron. You need to either learn to read, or just get off the computer altoghter.

BTW, i never said beat, i said hang. I figure i better clarfiy that with you sense you don't seem all that inteligent.
Another thing to keep in mind is those times are people that can actually drive. I only ever raced 3 gts (got beat in the civic everytime) But it was never more than a car lenth, and that was when i quit racing.

Now stop being a asshat and arguing with me about nothing.

to all the retards to who dont have a clue as to what their talking about: shut the **** up.

jeez. you make me laugh. theres a reason most serious import inthusiasts laugh at majority of honda guys. go shine your clearlights. hang. hahah . any car can tecnically hang. ****in le baron can "hang" you are nothing more than a poser. grow up, when you are among serious people and dont base your assumption on Fast and the Furious movies, than we will talk. jeez...:pukey

lol. I don't understand. I show you that mustangs are as slow as a civic, and you tell me to grow up? Well, im also a domestic guy, and own a lexus, so i guess im not jsut a honda guy, i must be putting the bad name on everyone then huh?

And the reasone "any car can hang with mustang gt is because they are slow, you stupid pervert. Thats the whole point behind it. Its almost like i have to explian every thing i type in great detail just so you can comprehend it.

I'm sorry, but I gotta agree with 240sxhoe here. When my '84 was bone stock motor-wise (only mod was exhaust) I could pull on stock Civics...and that was with a whopping 150hp (stock rated at 140hp w/ CFI). And as for owning a Lexus being a domestic...I don't really consider that a domestic since it's owned and operated by Toyota...essentially being an extention of said company. I find that people identify domestics and imports by the company's base of operation. So yeah...I'd call a Lexus an import.

I got to thinking. And this will be my last attempt to show you two idiots how wrong you are. I will be completly unbiased and use everyone elses 1/4 times. These will all be taken from v6perforamce.net

That was is first time ever at the track and he manged a 14.5.



Well ill be damed. All those are right around the mustang.



All those guys must be idiots also huh? I pulled those of the first page only. Keep in mind that all v6 perfomance. not just accords.
You guys need to stop being so god damed narrow minded. The mustangs suck dick. period. The only one worth anything are the new 2003+ corbras.

And being the keyword there.
Im well aware of who they are owned by.

Also after look further at the mustang specs, they suck at the twisties. I dunno how accurate this is but after a quick search the 2003 cobras only pull .85?

*edit*http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...h1/index1.html
.82?
And almost the exact performance acceration perfomance of my car?

Alright...call me and whoever else an idiot all you want but it won't change the fact that you're wrong. The numbers you're using are unofficial stuff from other sites and for all you know could be totally lies. Then there's the driver factor. Either you're driver of the year or the guys you race are absolutely horrible, yet I find it hard to believe you'd consistently find all of these terrible drivers. Again with the Motor Trend...don't put stock in ANYTHING you read there as far as their tests...they're always way off on just about every stat vs. other publications, namely enthusiast mags when the tests are conducted by people who ACTUALLY know how to drive a car hard. And did I read that right? Did you just compare your car favorably to an '03 Cobra? The '03 Cobras will without a doubt blow the doors off of ANY Honda product perhaps short of an S2000 (and that would have to be on a road course). Again, you're trusting Motor Trend. They're so used to testing FWD cars I think they've forgotten how to drive a RWD car with real power. So please, before you go around calling other people idiots, consider the source. I've actually tried to be fairly respectful so far...I just disagreed. But if you're gonna be a dick about it then people will ignore everything you say...and not just because you're wrong.

Those are numbers other drivers are getting. I don't understand you. I posted links to magzines and you say that the drivers will do better. I post links to drivers and you say they are lies? They are numbers froma forum just like this one.

no you didn't read that right. I wasn't comapring anything. I asked. Hence the "?"

Im not trying to be a dick. I told you i beat that svt and i told you how i beat. People called BS on me i post number that show they are about equal in performance and you call me a dick? If you don't like it, then stop reading the thread. Plain and simple.

if the stupid new cobra is dyno'ing so great why is it getting trap speeds just shy of the regular vette? oh wait i just found where the cobra weighs like 3800lbs, awesome

oh and i think it was asked earlier why people dont get all butt hurt when an import dyno's a little less than advertised, one: performance minded people do get butt hurt...two:most people can over look one flaw if everything else is up to par, unlike in the mustang where everything(according to actual owners, i myself am not stupid enough to buy one) is crappy.

Oh this I love. So many people can't take the fact that the Mustang is where it's at performance-wise they've started comparing it to a Vette. Right...the Mustang which was never supposed to be in the same league as the Corvette and costs around $15K-$20K less. And not only were people comparing it to the Vette...but to the uber-Vette, the Z06 and it STILL made a pretty good stand. Does that answer your question?

Dingo...look, you read too much into stuff. Not once have I stated that you or anyone else was lying. I just stated possibilities specifically to AVOID calling anyone a liar. I'm not saying you didn't beat the guy, I'm just saying it's a little hard to swallow in a straight up race and that some of the facts you used to back it up may not be so reliable. That's all. I remember once years ago some douche in an Escort actually wanted to race me. Light turned green and as soon as I hit the throttle a wire going to my MSD box snapped. I didn't get more than 10ft and the car just died. I'm sure that guy went out and told all of his friends how he kicked this Mustang's ass. I just think the Cobra is a little faster than you're giving it credit for and your Accord may be a little slower than you think.

it sounds like your getting some major bullshit from Import tuner. your mind is ****ed by ricer magazines. STOCK ex civic will never run 14s. stock SR runs low 14s.

please stop the bullshit. you have no idea what are you talking
about.


yea, i bet you one of those guys that think "vtec is just like turbo"

there will never be a civic ex STOCK running low 15s either. no power beyond turbo. amen.

what should the cobra be compared to, an element?

btw the price difference is only about 8k$, not 15-20 :rolleyes:

once again you're a retard.:thumbsup:

Well...unfortunately Mustangs became so popular that it forced Chevy to halt production of the Camaro/TA platform. Now they've got the GTO...but we'll all have to wait and see what that does.

$8K? Are you f@cking joking? I was a little off, but base of both models are a $10K difference. Besides, with a Vette you're buying a name. If you took $2K of that money you'd save you could easily out handle and out accelerate a Vette and you'd have a car that you could be proud of...not one you just drove off a showroom floor. I'm sure when Ford starts production of the GT (not the Mustang, the new GT40 style GT) you'll compare it to a Lambo since it (according to Motor Trend or Road & Track or one of those shitty mags which you guys put sooooo much faith in) handed a Ferrari Modena it's ass on a road course.

msrp cobra 35k, msrp vette 43k, simple math man.

what are you talking about, now your bringing the GT40 into all this!?!? lets compare it to the C5-R then.

Ok...we're obviously getting our prices from different places. I've got the MSRP of a Cobra at $34K and a Vette at $44K. As for where the GT fits into all of this, it's a simple matter of comparison. You can't compare a Vette with a Cobra no more than you can compare the GT with an Italian supercar because they're not made to be in direct competition. It either says something really good about Ford that they're comparing the Cobra to a Vette or it says something bad about Chevy that Ford's lowely Mustang has come up to take on the Vette.

what else is there to compare it(vette) too? a viper? it already dominates that in racing.

i just did a search for msrp's and got cobra of 35k and the vette at 43.

Nothing I have said has been aimed at you. I don't think my accord is insanely fast. I do have respect for the new cobras but thats it. An model below that is slow. I posted links to several websites that show the cobra I raced running around the same numbers as my car. All I did was post a story that happened. Then a couple of idiots told me I was lying so I posted more than enough proof to prove otherwise.
I understand your story, but this was not the case considering to the amount of speed we got to and I was still slowly pulling away from him. And the thumbs up and nod. It was a race plain and simple that he lost and he signaled good race.

As azcivic pointed out (don’t you think that’s weird we both think the same way?), you’re a moron again.

I never said the civic runs low 14s. Hell I even posted times from peoples website of the mustang at mid 15s. To me anything at or below a 15.3 is low 15s so I think its quite possible for a civic to run low 15s with bolt-ons.

still winning is winning. hanging does not count. your stock civic ex dx and bblah blah blah other trims maybe besides SI suck big dick stock. Vtec or not, stock is still sub-110 hp. crankhp is always higher. you will never win without serious power application, aka Turbo. amen.

you can hang with any car, but you will never beat it. you if you have no strong middle range you are ****ed. learn a little more about engines and how things work. maybe will help. if you want ill post some websites you can kinda glare at the concept.

you think bolt ons are that efficient? please! what the ****! you spend 1500 on h/i/e to get what? mac gain of 15 horseS? dynos in magazines lie, you will find it out years later. why not spend around 6grand on rebuild and turbo setup? that is where real power is. you are such a ricer. :yes: :yes:

What the hell? You just babling dumb shit. Where did i say bolt ons are efficent? As a matter of fact if you had any kind of common sense at all you could have searched the site and seen i reccomend against bolts and for a turbo you stupid prick.
And bolt on to a 4 cyclinder is a wast of money, period.

No, you can't. A civic will never hang with an 03 cobra stock for stock, of a neon srt-4, or an wrx, or an evo...jesus your stupid.

And even though i clarfied before (which obviosuly wasn't enough) I never said win.

Now stop being a little *****.

well according to you captain Rice, a second difference or so is called hanging. or maybe i missread again? just agree that you are a ricer and be on with it come on.

once again your own words. bolt on wont nock off .5 secs or even .3.

LOL, in case you haven't got it. Calling me a ricer doesn't bother me.

Again, you just making shit up. I never said a second, you did. I said less then half a second.

Im sure a civic ex with full bolts very little gas, and weight cut here and there WILL run low 15s.

you said bolt ons on a 4 cyl are a waste of time, why then are you talking about it?

They are. To me dumping over 1.5k of money into bolt ons only to gain a second or so is a stupid waste compared to spend 2.5-3k on a turbo setup.

Am i wrong?

no. although you wont gain "a second or so" wit bolt on. imho only bolt ons worthy getting with your turbo setup is clutch/lighter flywheel setup. but thats about it. i would also focus on suspension first before putting a big turbo on the car.

I agree. with the turbo setup.

But disagree with full bolts on. I am more than willing to bet you will gain a second.

Lol...this reminds me of some street racing thing I saw on TV where some guy had dumped (his own estimation) close to $30K into an N/A RHD Civic, I believe it was. He was so proud it would run 14s. Then when he went to race it, it broke down. Apparently the 240hp he claimed was just too much for the car to handle. Hehe.

jeez that guy was a moron. with 30k in my 240 i will be pushing close to 800. idle will be kinda rough tho.

$30K? I've got just a little over $10K in my car (that includes transmission and suspension) and I'm sitting on 657 block-cracking hp. With $30K I could be looking at well over 1000hp.

LOL. It must have been too much power!!!

LISTEN 240 SX, Your car will get smoked from civic ex its even though its got less horse power. Its not 110 its 130 stock vtec and the engine is just more refiend than that of a 240 sx.

Just go drift somehwhere:toofunny: :nana: :nono:

And there is no way a stock civic beat a svt mustang impossible.

Not even possible in your dreams drdingo21 :nono: :nono: :nono:

Good thing i don't drive a stock civic then, isn't it? Idiot

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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:o :o :o

What kind of modification do you have?

i don't have the civic at all. This whole post was about my new car. Even my second post was a link to pics of my car:)

you are an idiot, and i proved it so many times. your stock civic is worthless and your vtec is worthless. theres no way in hell stock civics every beat me. not stock.

and im more into autoX btw.

why dont you learn before making an idiot out of yourself, although you provided a good laugh for other people:no:

Im sensing some car-race bashing here (as in "nissans/hondas/fords/chevy/etc suck")...thats immature

ok, but wheres the common sence? stock civic ex isnt worth shit. its a fact. slapped with a t25 or t28 = way to go. enough of bs.