Actually, +/- 200 WHP is about a grand away in a well-running g60. Just FYI, not trying to be argumentitive. :thumbup:

Dude most VW's are in the same class as hondas............Pot calls kettle black and tells him to be more original................:|

um exactly.. a grand lol... and even thats pushing it, you talking about a chip, pulley intake catback er sumthing?

lol a grand is a lot, my cars got about a grand in the motor (putting 500 into it since i only fix shit when it breaks) and im going for mid to low 12's

not trying to start shit but im interested to learn more about the g60's aftermarket and pricing.

And in the world of VW's, a grand is pennies for that much improvement. ;) We're just coming from different backgrounds. Other than the 20 valve 1.8T, the g60 is probably the most flexible and tuneable watercooled motor that VW has ever made.

Specific modifications to get you there would be something along the lines of a chip, smaller charger pulley, cam upgrade, higher pressure FPR, and about $500 to spend on your choice of other stuff - head work, exhaust, different intercooler, etc.

thats cool... i love the 1.8's chip intake and catback have netted some 13's off the rip... the g60 on the other hand ive never quite been impressed with the times they pull, and btw i thought chips for veedubs were expensive?

u telling me a cam, charger pully, chip, and fpr is <500

Yep. You can get a "stage IV" kit for a g60 motor for about $500, and that will include a chip, cam, fpr, pulley, and some other good stuff too. That'll put you at maybe 180 hp at the wheels, and the other $500 in stuff will get you near 200.

Considering that these cars dyno at about 135 hp to the wheels stock, IMHO 65 whp for a grand isn't too bad.

Tons of people are not impressed by the g60 motor, in a way it's too bad - very understandable though, there's *very* little information about them available, yet there's an incredibly fanatical almost underground following for them. They're potent in the right hands, but take some special knowledge and care that the average VW guy wouldn't have.

Edit - and the other big reason why people don't know a lot about g60's is that they've really only taken off in the last few years. 3 out of the 4 current most important g60 tuners didn't exist two years ago.

Depends on what VW you're talking about. The best g60 chips out there can be had for $50.

Whereas if you're looking for a good 1.8T chip, you're probably going to spend a few hundred.

They do pretty different things though. The g60 chip is just controlling fuel and spark maps, whereas today's average 1.8t chip is also handling a lot of other management tasks, and working with a much more complicated management system. so the extra cost is justified.

hey bro thanks for the info, its glad to see some people come on here not to troll and throw around extreme numbers, but to offer some useful insight... im always up to learn more about the opposition:bandit:

and 65whp is pretty damn good

http://www.autotech.com/qchip.htm

yea autotech has some kits for it, i wonder if these come with the gaskets for the cam install though, and i really wouldnt leave a stock valvetrain with upgraded cam ;)

One last post before I log off. :D

Autotech's kits are extremely old skool in the g60 world, they're like so 20th century. :yes: Nothing against them though.

And the g60's valvetrain is way more than durable/light enough to handle the types of aftermarket cams that most people are going to put on them.

Once you get past the typical "mild" cams most people use on a g60 - the types of cams that would require valvetrain upgrades, you're gonna be into a cam with a fair amount of overlap. And overlap on a forced induction engine isn't a good thing, since you're just gonna blow all your boost out the exhaust and loose a lot of low end power for a small gain up top.

So you're basically limited to mild cams, unless you're doing some sort of crazy all out race motor.

50 beans? thats hella cheap.

yea some company like abt er sumthing made a chip i was looking at for my boys stock 1.8t jetta and it was outrageous.

ah... thanks for enlightening an old n/a pushrod dinosaur like meself ;)

here's some info about the Volkswagen Corrado (in a nutshell)

The Corrado was introduced in Europe back in '88 1/2 first in europe with only the 2.0L 16v (approx. 145 hp give or take +/-10 hp). It was assembled right next to it's older sibling the Scirocco for about a year in Germany. The USDM spec Corrado was brought in fresh from Germany in '90 with only the G60 motor. The G60 was a 1.8L supercharged motor. The supercharged four cylinder had many design flaws from the start. One of many was the materials used in the "G-lader" was plastic ball bearings the weakess rubberbands for belts and many other things and the traditional wiring problems that was common on all german imports. VW decided to used the Lancia designed 15degree 6 cylinder known as the VR6. It wasn't the only awkword motor that VW has ever put into it's cars. The quantum/passat back in the '80s had a VR5 with was only available with awd/"syncro".

The exterior differences when VW switched motors from the G60 to the VR6 was the slight buldge in the front part of the hood to properly house the VR6 motor. The grille was changed and the width of the front end of the car has been widen a few inches. the four lug wheels where switched to five lug. More infor to come when it hits me...

Hold on there partner. :D No component of the g60 engine has ever had plastic ball bearings. ;) The g60 is a fragile supercharger, but has no "plastic" inside it anywhere. I don't know if you literally meant "plastic" or not, but I don't want anyone to be mislead.

The Corrado was first sold in Europe near the end of 88, but as an 89 model, not an 88.5. Also, the 16v engine it started with (in Europe) had 136 hp, not 145. In some European countries in 1990 and 1991, it only had 129 hp, due to having a catalytic converter.

Also, the vr6 was not a Lancia design. It was designed in-house by VW, borrowing some technology from various partners. The first prototypes were developed in the 80's, and were 2.4 litres with 24 valves. They were called "RV6" in their developmental stages. They ditched the 24v head because of overheating problems and replaced it with the 12v head, and upped the displacement to 2.8 litres (or 2.9 for Europe) to make up for the power lost in switching to 12 valves.

The name VR6 refers to the narrow-angle design - R stands for the german word "Reihenmotor," meaning "inline motor;" and V stands for "V." (duh!) Thus, the VR6 is a "V inline motor."

Also, the vr5 motor came *after* the vr6, not before. The 5 cylinder motor you're thinking of was an *inline* 5 cylinder 10 valve motor borrowed from Audi - that's the motor that was in the Quantum (Passat) Synchros in the 80's. The vr5 is only a few years old, and is only available in Europe, on the MkIV (Golf and Jetta) platform - it's a completely different beast from the inline 5 in the Quantums from the 80's. And that inline 5 motor was a design that Audi more or less built off of VW's own 8-valve 4 cylinder designs, just with an extra cylinder stuck on the end.

(Technical specs for the vr6 taken from VW's Service Training Self Study Program # 402, part number WSP52140200.)

Anytime. ;) I know very little about Amurrrican muscle, but I've got lots of friends who are in to it educating me on a daily basis. Every time I learn something about it though, I think "Maaan, that's waaay different than what I'm used to!"

CorradoFan, thanks for sharing your knowledge. Its nice to have outsiders come in and share the info they know instead of flaming everything. For this we all truely appreciate people like you.

Hopefully you cruise these boards from time to time and not forget about us. ;)

ahh..."These pipes....ARE CLEAN!!"
(the thread has been cleaned of unwanted, immature crap)

Yeah, if you want to spend the majority of the time in your garage, trying to figure out what's wrong with your car, then VW is the way to go. :yes:

Damn I guess I was wrong with just about everything I said. oh well...

lol, you were a lot closer to the mark than plenty of other people. :D

YAY guess what...there are a ton of corrados in town now...all owned by these punk ass kids that think theyre badasses (a total of 4 new ones (besides the one that I beat)). (yeah they're new to town...still have the paper plates in the windows)

They all cruise around together it seems and do nothing but taunt people...EVERYBODY. It doesnt matter what the other car is. I even saw one kid revving on a corvette z06...

OH, and since I beat the one kid...they all want to race me...daily. So far Ive been able to "give the appropriate gesture" and ignore their dumbasses...but one day I know I'll take the bait...and I probably wont win the next time...

When you corrado guys read this...if you know people from around Oakland County, Michigan (mostly Lake Orion) from your boards...tell them to grow up...

Good luck with that.

eh if they keep it up I'll just have to borrow the silverado (8.1L...this fawker hauls major ass (beaten several mustang gts)
or maybe just take out a loan for my b18c and turbo :D jk

I like the last option :yes:

lol nah...Im almost there...probably by the end of summer I will be able to order the c from hmo

That would rule.

yo man you got this shizat all wrong. the original image he posted was a scirroco 16v. and let me tell you you are lucky to win that one. my good friend has one with some mods and it can keep up older m3s. quick

He said it was the Corrado, not the Scirocco. Read all the posts. The first image was the only thing he could find.

no it was actually the first thing that I found that was remotely similar :D

but yes, it was a corrado

I haven't read the whole thread but....


my buddy had a corado with the g60 and he put on a pulley and computer (maybe injectors too) and it was REDICULOUS fast...

the vr6's are supposed to be faster out of the box from what I hear though...

his was really quick though it ran 8-12psi I think... I only saw him take off the opposite direction but he chirped 3rd at light throttle going straight... he had only gotten it like a week before (had been looking for one since the last time I saw him 5 years ago.) and got the pulleys and ecu (or chip) within a week... said it was NUTS... but he was also a HUGE vw freak and from my experience they ALL seem to overestimate their cars WAY more than honda owners.

I didnt think that was possible

Dude you should hang out with some of these guys... it's REALLY funny how anti-honda they are (mostly joking but...). and they think their cars are SOOOOO fast...

Sure there are plenty of civic drivers with dillusions of fast... but vw's are slow AND breakdown.

very true...kid down the road has a golf and its on jacks every weekend getting fixed

heh i think the worst out there are the nissan drivers:yes: then dsmers (overating their cars that is)

VW guys are really bad though. Trust me, I see it everyday.

:| Don't make me come up there.....










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is that all you can do ? you hit like a girl, c'mon hit me :rolleyes: jfwy;)

Postwhore /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ :yes: ;) :yes:

That's it. You're gonna get it. Once I get one of my cars back that is.:D