Tuning 101 eh? What do you think a professional install does? Especially the shops around my area. LOL. You think you know soooo much but you have no clue, stick to your Mustangs.

:yes:

And for your information my engine will be installed by www.corksport.com they are located in Portland, OR and are Mazda specialists.

Go read up on the FE3, go read up on lots of things, THEN and only then will I listen to your so called "calling BS" rants.

k thx bye.

Oh another thing, I am not an avid reader of this board, but some of threads I have read, all you do is argue with people? Real life gotcha down? Feel like you got nothing left but to argue virtually?

:D

And to make it even worst you are arguing on a HONDA dominant board.. I mean come on, you have a 5.0 that would obviously spank the crap out of any Honda, and I think the reason you arguing with Mx6gt91, and myself is because for under $2000 we'll be faster than you by a good amount.

But you'll again reply with your witty remarks and everyone else on this board who doesn't know crap will be like "oooo wow :eek: :loco: :bow: "

lol.

dude im done argueing with you, if you didnt know that mazda was owned by ford you obviously are just here to stir shit up. i have no clue right? sure, ill let the people who read your posts judge be the judge of who has and who doesnt.

i take my previous remark back, i will continue, get some reciepts or stfu. you dont have the motor, you dont have mods, your running 16psi on a car without even a fuel pressure regulator to tune it, and a turbo that only does 12-15 safely (if your boy is right), and i hate to tell you but for 2K and mod for mod your a ****ing fool if you think you can come close to an equally modded and driven fox body.


People have gotten fox bodies into the 11's with cam, gears, and full exhaust and slicks, trophy stock class is dominated by someone running 11.6 on DOT tires, and a fox body with a stock 1987 mustang camshaft, and boltons with stock gt-40 casting heads from a 93 cobra UNTOUCHED, and a ford explorer 5.0 intake manifold, not bad for STOCK parts with boltons huh?
his name is robin lawrence. btw the motor dynoed 380.8hp and 413.5 ft lbs of torque at don west dyno service. THIS IS STOCK PARTS WITH BOLTONS!

but thats ok cause just like any other idiot all you see if ragged out 5.0's that are bone stock that time has shit on, combined with bad drivers that think there cocky.

5.0's in good running condition are capable of 13 second 1/4 miles right out of the factory floor

mx6's are not, and you are NOT i repeat NOT gonna catch up with a mere boost controller, and filling your gastank up with hopes and dreams. your an idiot, even when your proven wrong you come back here to argue merely for the SAKE of argueing im on here TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE ****ING QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED IN THIS THREAD, IM SORRY YOU DONT LIKE THE TRUTH BUT YOUR CARS ARE DOGS stock.

p.s. even the ****ing site you gave me showed the motors at a healthy 1800 dollars for the turbo 4 bangers that fit in the mx6's so what was the point of giving me that site if it made you look even stupider?

See dude this is what I mean don't talk crap when you don't know the facts, the stock ECU for the 88-92 Mazda MX6 GT is programmed to map the fuel curve up to 12 PSI, I know you didn't know that, but that's my point you are here to bash everyone who isn't MUSTANG.

And for your information I do have an ECU upgrade that also cost me $60, what does it do? Well it makes the car idle better, it get rid of the flat spot on the fuel map, it takes away boost cut and fuel cut, and it remaps the fuel curve all the way up to 20PSI.

Now onto another lesson, the MX6 GT cannot exceed 16PSI without upgrading the fuel pump, the injectors and adding a FPR (fuel pressure regulator). This you were sort of correct on, but not really.

Now I bet your asking, "Ok so when you upgrade the turbo and want to boost beyond 16PSI, what do you do?"

Well jerky, Jay B from Maxx-Motorsports.com offers a wide variety of ECU upgrades, from 440cc supra injector programmed chips, to 650cc.

And stop sending me PMs... it's frightening to say the least :no:

P.S I am running a dual stage TurboXS boost controller, with settings of 12PSI and 16PSI, my A/F guage says it's A-Okay, and you're saying I can't run that high of boost on a stock car? You, my friend have a lot to learn.

I suggest you go read up, as I said in my previous post about our cars before spouting off and trying to look cool infront of the Honda dominant crowd. I guess you must of not drove your mommy's probe to often, eh?

This is also my last post, so please again stop the PMs, just stop replying, accept defeat in its' rawest form, you didn't know anything about the MX6, but decided to voice your insufficent opinion and all your inaccurate facts.

BTW I must say, 16.0? Some stock guys have ran 15.3-15.7 bone-dry stock. Little off topic, but god man, you really don't know jack crap.

Alright after reading the rest of your last post, I too will revoke my last statement and continue this..

When the **** did I say 5.0 are slow? They are a domestic car, there's really no comparison between a Honda, a Mazda and a 5.0 Mustang.. That's why I ask why the hell are you here to argue? You obviously have the quickest car... STOCK, but dude honestly stop arguing.. Is someone compensating for a lack of a... haha you know what I mean :eek:

Anyways, you are the idiot, the FE3 isn't listed on www.corksport.com, or www.maxx-motorsports.com, you have to call and order it.. IDIOT!

Secondly, an engine swap isn't just a mod, it's an engine swap.. It will drastically change the outcome of a 1/4 time 0-60 time, so don't give me that bullshit that it's "just a mod".

Thirdly, stop sending me PMs telling me to stop arguing and then I see you back on here spouting off again.

Fourth, YOU DON'T KNOW JACKSHIT, ONCE AGAIN STICK TO YOUR 5.0

Fifth, this is my last response, so hope you are happy to most likely have the last word since I already know that you'll reply.

Congradulation! You got the last word on an internet argument, what's next the special olympics?

allright this is going well.

.yes its true i have killed many Mustangs with my car also.

.i havent heards of any 4WD systems for the mx6 besides the the Japan modles. all ive heard of is the 4WS, which i have.

.these cars are only dogs with bad drivers, people that can drive can get a low 15 to high 14 in our cars stock.

.same with the civic SI, the best ive seen them stock do is 15.9, that doesnt seem to good for me. my friend has one and shes got CAI, Headers, cat-back, fuel pressure regulator. her best time is 15.4, and shes a great driver. the onyl problem is she cant get traction.

same with these cars, ya FWD cars have problems with traction. and we all know hondas have LOTS of torque;)

my car has 190tq stock, when the car wasnt lowered i would spin the wheels through the end of 2nd with the tire pressure lowered. with that i still pulled a 15.6 at my best.

Why does it matter, i think this post is done. it was fun!!!

I think its funny that knowone with Hondas are adding to this, just those Mustang owners!!

So you upgraded your ecu, eh? i knew there was another factor involved, and no i didnt know the ecu mapped the fuel curves to 12psi but i knew to be able to RUN your car hard without causing a lean condition that would sieze the motor up there had to BE SOMETHING DONE. and how does that prove im here to bash everything non mustang?



actually you only REALLY NEED bigger injectors when you surpass a certain amount of hp, but im sure you knew that.



oh shit my bust! your a/f guage says its A-Okay! ROFLMFAO you can run rich all you want but you can only run truely lean once, just thought id let you know.



actually i really dont care for mx-6's and i know all i NEED to know about them, and if i screw up factually im sure you would let me know :rolleyes: i drove my moms probe all the time, still didnt make it any quicker. i will accept defeat if you can tell me what the hell it is you defeated me in.

and i must say you did get me wrong on the 16.0 part, i didnt know they ran that 'quick' stock. i just based my statement on watching countless modded ones at the track not breaking 16's and a couple i street raced and how i walked on them. this one i raced at a stoplight i can tell you for sure (on halloween night actually i posted the kill here) i dont know what he had aside from a monster tach w/ shift light but when we left i left slowly and once i saw the light blip i knew he was going for it and left him. ive had a harder time leaving some of my freinds stock beaters (i.e. 16-17 second cars) than that car.

you didnt say 5.0's were slow and i never said you did, and yes there really is no real comparison between hondas and mazdas and fords and hondas, but there IS BETWEEN FORDS AND MAZDAS, because ford owns mazda. im NOT here to argue i was here to simply answer the question that was on page 1 of this thread, and you called me out, so here i am your majesty. the one that called your cars dogs. STOCK. and they are, all of em, ever last one is slow as hell stock. sorry you dont like it, then you respond with MAZDA>FORD and ever since then the arguement has strayed from original subject.



first then why the hell did you give me the address to that site? give me the addy to a site that has a 600 dollar motor with a 500 dollar COMPLETE INSTALL AND PROFESSIONAL TUNE, and ill shut up.

2nd LOL when did i say an engine swap is a mod? i was commenting on how YOU guys make it seem like only a mod and your using my end arguement.

something to the effect of ALL I GOT TO DO IS THROW A 600 DOLLAR FE3 MOTOR IN?

3rd i sent you a pm to tell you that your a 1 post wonder starting trouble on this board.

4th if you say so it must be true

well with 200whp and 297 ft lbs of tq you should be suprised if you didnt. your boy is the one i pry, you have your head on straight and seem to be down to earth about things.



your right im wrong :bow: like i said i didnt know for sure.



id have to see some verification about the 14 mark to believe it something about the power to weight just doesnt add up. musta been a nittos run with powershifting and a great track prep.

why does you freind have a fpr on a basically stock n/a car? isnt really much to tune if the motor is stock.



15.6 is respectable, but to spin the wheels to the top of 2nd gear would mean the people at the track should be demoted for not prepping the track. thats ridiculous.



dont forget mx6 owners...

k someone stop this madness right now...game set and match...OVER...

lol...yeah...ford50 owned everyone...lol

Guess what Redman...I like to argue too. Well...more like piss people off. But you've crossed a line here. You think for $2000 you can be faster than a stock 5.0? You may be right...but you just wasted $2K. I'll bet I spent about $6-$7K building my motor, turbo and all but it will decimate most cars on the streets. But $2K to pull on a stock Mustang? You really shoot for the stars, huh? You'd like to believe that your car has a chance of being fast, but your confidence is sorely misplaced. If a Mustang owner used that same $2K you'd be crying that it wasn't a fair race. So just console yourself that all of us Mustang owners are pricks...whatever makes up for your feelings of inadequacy due to the fact that you drive a shitbox car. And yes, this is a Honda dominant board, but who says I can't like Fords and Hondas or Ferraris or Nissan or whatever. You seemed to have missed the entire point of all of this and I take pity on your sorry ass. You can knock Ford50 all you want, but he's right so shut your f*cking mouth.

Dammit, what the hell...?


CLOSED. :no:

Well, if you know anything about cars, then you woulfd nknopw that PEAK numbers don't tell the whole story. The curve and distribution of torque and horsepower over the rev range really determine what the car can do, as well as gear ratios.

Sure, the Probe and H22a may have similar peak torque numbers, but the PGT's torque curve is pretty flat, and spread out through the range. The Prelude doesn't hold that peak for long, maybe for 500-750 revs.

By the way, the V6 PGT's are only 16-sec runners in automatic form. 5-speeds are around 15.2-15.6 Now I never said that was blazingly fast or anything, but you mmight want to get the facts straight. They're right on par with the Si's and GS-R's.