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any classic hondas etc
 

hey everyone,

I'll see you in 20 years when my car is a classic and your car is a recycled aluminum can!

You don't see many classic :ricer: cars do you?
enough said



I have a 2.4motor w/aluminum flywheel, kevlar clutch with a t3 turbo what do you have?


LOL

I love my little go kart honda its so fast and furious

you've got to be kidding, with your underpowered all show and no go wanne be lowriders, get a real car

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Re: any classic hondas etc
 

Just because you dont have taste doesn't mean you can bash Honda's get out of her chrysler boy

ok guys this is getting old
Why come on a honda board and bash hondas. He beat a neon. Good for him.
And as for the time slip...yeah I would like to see your 14.99. My shitty little aluminum can has beat neons before. Big deal. drop it.

LEFT. . . .
Car #...57
Class...
DIAL...
R/T... .544
60'... 1.992
330... 6.851
1/8... 9.791
MPH... 73.08
1000... 13.599

1/4... 14.996
MPH... 93.62


No nitrous...

Mopar ECU.....................$100
Mopar header................$ 40
Mopar short throw $100
Mopar CAI $100
FMM...............................$ 25
Tsudo DTM $190
VHONG spacer $ 8

Total $563 dollars

:crazy: :bow: :pfft: :pfft: :crazy:

Where'd you get a Mopar ECU for $100? Most of the ones I've seen are $200+. What CAI do you have? The Mopar CAI goes for about $250. I'm not even going to continue on the rest. Did you buy these used?

Don't try to make yourself look good by saying you only spent $xxx to run 14.99. And I'd figure you for better times with that many mods.

Re: any classic hondas etc
 

Haha. You're joking right? You actually think a Neon is going to be a classic? I'm not saying a Civic will be, but come on. Neither ECONOMY car will be a classic. Not gonna happen. Now something like a WS6 or a Cobra R. Now those will be classics.

How much boost are you pushing? Just wondering because judging by your name you claim 11's in the 1/4.

dude.... dont make a fool out of yourself. a neon is a american civic. i eat neons for breakfast. at the track i goto (bithlo right by orlando) ive chased a few neons down when i get a crappy r/t or launch. im not saying they are piss ass slow, but dont think you have a great car. economy cars dont make it to be a classic, and up untill a little over 20 years ago japan didnt even import honda to america... so its REAL hard to have a classic honda. i think in 20 years, the NSX and sk2 will be classics, maybe the prelude.

The Mopar CAI is an Iceman, Mopar sells it out of their factory performance catalog. I bought all of the items used, including the header. And that's not a whole lot of mods. I/H/E + a short throw with a filled front motor mount (fmm) is hardly alot of mods. Next season I have some internal mods planned. Such as:

10.5:1 pistons
#16 Crane cams
Eagle Connecting rods
60mm TB
Oversized Stainless steel valves
Shotpeened rods
3 angle valve job
Crane Cams' Racing Valve Spring and Titanium Retainers
Blackdog motorsports long tube equal length header
Stage III drag axles
9" rage clutch

This should be able to get me into the mid 13's all motor at the current altitude I'm at here in Utah which is 7250 ft above sea level.

Budget: about $3,900 +565=4463 for a 13 second (12 second @ sea level) all motor car. Not the cheapest, but not bad at all.

All your Hondas berong to us :eek:

do you want to know how fast i would be with $4000?

I have a 95 neon brought new from the dealer in 95, fast foward to today, the neon got bad brakes (leaky wheel and master cylinders), replaced rack and pionion, paint starting to chip off the body, headlight starting to fog up because its cheap plastic and it cause 200+ each at the dealer for replacement (holy sh!t), Replaced Cat converter, and the PS pump is making noises now.

and my 91 Prelude, not thing wrong with it except the AC nob in the console fell off.

There are some good things about the neon, The stock stereo is awsome compare to other stock units, the sheet metal seems very thick.

also the neon suspension is ass compare to my prelude, may be because I am compare to a sports car... Working under the hood is an ass also, every thing is so cramped together, changing the light bulb is out of the question if you have big hands...

some economy car does make it to the classics, the 60's Ford Falcon is an example, I love classic cars.

I dont hate neons, I have one, It was good when it was new, but afte all these cocky neon owners show up here flaming, I am starting to change my view.

dollar for dollar compare to some of the imports, the quality of the neon is piss poor. Yeah it have lots of hosepower, but what good does it do if the wheels falls off....

hahaha so true man:pfft:
they wouldn't hold up to you..hahaha...nevermind..with $4000 I would be hella fast also

I never said my method would be the cheapest. My goal is to have an all motor car in the low to mid 12's when I run at sea level. It'd take alot more than 4k to get a prelude even with an h22 to get into the same time bracket with only engine mods and pump gas and be a reliable daily driver while still paying for "family sedan" insurance. No forced induction, no nitrous oxide just internal bolt on parts. I don't think I'm being cocky. If you think I am because of these posts then okay ;)

$4000= turbo kit, cams, new head gasket. that would be 12 seconds, cause i can run 12psi then on pump gas safly. dont say family sedan crap man, keep the argument fair. you cant "own all our hondas" but exclude me cause i have a sports coupe.civic owners know they dont have the fastest cars on earth, and they modify them to be faster. owning a neon i'd think you would have a bit more knowladge of how slow cars can be made fast. you are proving to me that you dont. just remeber as fast as you wana make your car, for the same money, mine will be faster.

This is about the stupidest argument i've seen. My neon is better. NO my Honda is better. Who gives a ****.

On a side note: Neons look gay.

hahahahaha....

:bow: :bandit: :cigar:

What I don't understand is why you're all bent out of shape over the argument in the first place. Why am I a moron for A. Owning a neon. B. wanting to make an all motor 12 second car. I never wanted to exclude your prelude from the whole bit. What I am saying is that when comparing a compact sedan (civic) to a compact sedan (neon). The neon walks all over the competition at each and every level of competition. Also the neons could give a very good run for the money on much more expensive cars, such as: The Prelude (comparing the same years) and the mustang and the camaro and a myriad of other cars, sometimes costing up to $10,000 more. Neons were designed from the beginning from Chrysler to do 2 things. 1. Be the roomiest affordable compact car in the market. 2. Be a serious contender for the scca grassroots road racing segment. Both of which have done very well. The Civic on the other hand was designed to be a fairly inexpensive compact commuter car that only became popular because of the fuel crunch of the mid 70's. The accord CVCC appeard in 1976 and I beleive the civic CVCC appeared in 1977. They boasted mpg ratings of over 46mpg and 68hp My 150hp expresso gets 46mpg with all the modifications I've done to it (which isn't much) What I find hilarious is that some of you folks can't stomach the facts and retort with "X cars are/look gay" then have the rest of the ones who are ignorant say "yah they do!" 4thgenlude, you're one of the few (from what Ive read so far) have a decent head on your shoulders and don't seem to spout off tons of ignorant garbage. What about your time slips and modifications to your car? I'd like to know. best e.t.?

Look at the first neon guy that post here, it is he who call us moron.


and here it is...

Looks to me he was calling one person a moron. Do you speak like that for real or are you being sarcastic?

We all know what civics and neons were made for. Who cares. You've beat some civics, I've beat some neons. Good for both of us.

Man.i never thought i would get s*** on for just saying I beat a neon..my bad.....p.s. I thought this was HONDAstyle.com....not NEONstyle.com?!? PERIOD

it shouldn't be that hard to understand why they would get upset.

i think you included me. i have nothign against you, nor anyone else how is in the car scene for tuning a car. but coming on here with a 14.9 second neon(which i will say is very fast from what ive seen at my track for those mods) saying you own all our hondas where thats what my car can run bone stock, you cant expect me to defend my car. i have more bolt ons than you do, and my car will probobly outhandle yours. i'd relly be interested in seeing your time slips of 12's with 4000 in engine work, cause thats ALOT of speed to get in a full interior all motor neon.

This thread is crackin me up.

Accord17, thanks for the " Killed a neon fruit" title. You've seemed to successfully piss off every Neon owner.:o

Neons are the American equivelant to Civics. Face it. Neither are sports cars or were intended to be. But I think that's part of the fun. You can't compare a Neon to a Prelude. They aren't in the same class. Preludes are sport coupes.

Ahh.. Anyhow. Carry on with the pointless arguing.:cigar:

Quoting Motor Trend (which is partially owned by General Motors) They did some tests of the neon on a skidpad,

Do you honestly think that a neon can give either a WRX or a Fbody a run for their money?

Dumb dee dumb dumb dumb.....(thread that is..i'm relaly sorry)

Well, given that the writers for an internationally recognized automotive magazine owned by the largest automaker in the world are professional drivers, and every single one of us here (including myself) are not. I would trust their reporting a bit more than the predominantly ignorant comments of the participants of this or any other forum, (including myself). There are several internationally recognized authorities in the automotive publication world (and I'm sorry, SCC and Honda tuning aren't among that group) that have done articles on the performance ability of the neon. Magazines such as Motor Trend, Car & Driver, and Hot Rod magazine. None of which would have given a FWD compact the time of day. Keep in mind that the neon was first to be covered from that segment. GM got all in a tizzy over Len Ayalas 10 second street legal neon that they answered back with their ecotec monstrosity. It only took a budget of $43,000 to get that 4 banger into the 8's. Len Ayala about 9 grand, and alot of it his own money. Next?

im done with this thread, you continue to ignore any posts that you are wrong in. welcome to the board, and hopefully we can see eye to eye in another thread. a neon will not beat a WRX or a ws6 in a rally, road course or 1/4 mile or even hold the same numbers as the WRX on the skid pad, so that slolom time proves what? if it does please tell me, i am actualy asking

This is so funny. The guy who said Neons own at every level. hav you checked the NHRA Sport Compact results lately?????
August 9-10
these are the winners in Turbo Magazine December 2002 Vol 18 no. 12

All motor Rx7 10.54@125
All motor Rx7 11.64@115 What no Neons

Street Tire Supra 9.46@153
Street Tire Supra Broke Oh man no neons here either darn

Hot Rod Civic 11.46@83
Hot Rod Civic Broke I thought the neons could have one that one

Modified Civic 8.41@173(Mr. Papadakis)
Modified Cavalier 8.41@173 Wow an american car

Pro Duttweiler Cougar 8.45@179
Pro Venom Tundra 8.66@146

Pro V8 Turbonetics Celica 7.16@195
Pro V8 Cougar 7.99@175

hmmm seems the neons did not place and this is the top level
I think its stupid of all neon people to come to a honda board and try to defen your cars. Its our board go to your own board. This is just pointless and you just ned to mind your own businuess and the main thing thats horrilbel about neons is those stupid bubble headlights. AHHHH If they got rid of those damn things the car wouldnt be so bad. Its just so dumb looking.

Has anyone seen "bubble boy"...i haven't but i think he drives a neon? jfwy

Nice Kill, I hate stupid neons. They are ugly and slow.

Want to hear something funney?

At my friends autobody there was a 2003 neon in the shop for something stupid. Anyways, I poped the hood and the first thing i noticed was the PLASTIC INTAKE MANIFOLD. LOL

Only reason to hate a neon is because you've been beaten by them over and over again. It's a composite intake manifold which is lighter than metal and for just plain ol' every day usage it's fine.

1st gen...

2nd gen

Now here's an engine bay of a neon with an aluminum intake manifold. Wanna hear something funny? You can't spell. :pfft:

wanna see something even funnier? Heres a Honda engine bay with even more plastic.

that honda engine that you're makin fun, or comparing, will put on many more miles than that chrysler engine

Is that the Odyssey or Passport, CRV Engine???? I know its not any of the hondas that you compare your neon too. But hey wheres your comback about the saying how neons own in all areas of competition. I think I shut you up about that one.

Oh wait, you're right, I did forget.


Now call me nuts, but I don't see any hondas out there (that don't have the one piece front clip or 100% tube chassis) that are in the same time frames Mod for mod, neons dominate, there's your book, now buy it
:bow:

mod for mod? is this a new type of racing? i always thought he who can build the better car wins? regardless of how it is achived

wow that impressive numbers....i wonder how many mil. he put into it...;) :crazy: :eek: lol

lock for the sake of humanity.

btw... (L) Tom Fujita ('87 Honda Civic) 0.608 11.613 118.35
thats a 16 year old civic racing practically new neons.