well, theyre useful on anything but a honda :no:

did a search to read up on nitrous, good stuff! i got an accord and will probably be doing a 75shot using the zex kit. thank again for the info AzCivic and oc civic.

oh one more thing. cashizslick will you please stop giving your worthless advice on things you know nothing about. you're gonna have kids blowing up their cars and wasting money on crap like titanium retainers for a simple nitrous shot. btw werent you that moron that spent like 10 grand on a measly b16? :nono:

oh god im feeling faint i must go lay down.

a honda lawn mower

The funny thing is, acclude, is that hes spent less on his car than you, and would WAX YOU with little to no effort,andstill look good as would i, so give the man some props.

Dude, at this site, you choose who you will listen to, if you think my advice is worthless, prove me wrong
- btw, yes i am a moron for paying more than i should have to have my car working properly (about 5k totoal including the swap price) but thats what happends when you dont string wires all throught your engine bay to wire a motor in

common sence says its a good idea to re-enforce parts of your car you plan to put under heavy stress - im not dissagreeing with OC civic or Azcivic on the fact that it is possible to run naws on a stock valve train for a long time and have no problems - i personally think its a good idea to re-inforce that stuff since you might spray all the time or whatnot (and i cannot see how with a big shot its not impossible to get valve float).

umm sure buddy :rolleyes:

you've been proven wrong yet you still wont accept the truth.

I could say the same about you.

Hey Az, just a non-argumentitive question.

Nitrous causes a motor to rev up much much faster than it would normally (because if the increase in power right?).

I would assume that since the motor is revving up mad quick that the cam has to be opening/shutting at a much higher rate as well so couldnt this potentially cause valve float?

like i already said, put your car in neutral; slam the gas. it rev's really fast doesnt it?

ya, but isnt it different under actual driving conditions?

nope. the valves open and close the same if the tranny is in gear or not, also in actual driving conditions they'll open and close slower than revving the engine in neutral, even with nitrous.

i think air fuel gauge is only a joke if the car is nearly stock and naturally aspirated...but if its forced induction then don't you think its important to know if the car is running lean or rich under full throttle??:confused:

hmm Tennessee, The Volunteer State... how about you just voluteer to STFU when no one is talking to you. or better yet run out to your little ghetto farm land, pick some cotton and shove it in your mouth when you want to get into something that dont concern you. :mad:

besides i was just joking around with cash. ;)

You use exhaust temp to find out the same thing - the hotter your exhaust temp, the more lean you are runnin. Air2fuel ratio is dumb because its innacurate - a ricer gague.

AZ/OC are right...

Cashslick/Shaved... are wrong.

I'm not going to bother with much more than that...

If you really want to know A/F make your own wideband O2 sensor... it'd cost like 150-200 bucks...

I wanted to make a couple of them a while back but didn't have the money...

here's a link if anyone is interested... (you have to solder a circuit board so it's not for everyone... I think they have a breadboard version that should be easier for those without real good soldering skills.)...


http://www.diy-wb.com/

awesome link :thumbsup:

I might be interested in that as well...though for almost 1/2 price you can get an egt which serves a similar function...though you gotta put holes in things......

You have to weld in another o2 bung for the wideband o2...

but imo it's WELL worth it... if you're going turbo or even nitrous it give you the EXACT lambda number you're at... that's basically priceless....

that's why NOONE but them sells anything like it for under 6-800 bucks.