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About 1.5 months ago...I was caught by the police "attempting to rob from a coin opperated machine."
They let us go then...but earlier this week...they finally called...
Lately my grades have been horrible...and my parents caught me drinking...and now they found out about this...
And my mom suggested military school...
I mean...I know if i do this, my life will probably end up way better...
But i also know...that if i go i'll hardly be able to go out...and there will be no watching tv or getting on the internet and othe stuff like that until i graduate...
I need structure in my life...which military school will help me achieve...But i also need friends...and fun...And i'm not too sure military school will help me out in this area...
I know, I'll meet friends there...but I'll miss my friends here way too much...
It just won't be the same...
I'm not too sure if they let people have cars and stuff there...And part of my life now is about cars and learning mroe about them...Thats another thing that i'll miss greatly...
I'm not sure what to do...
I know that i'll eventually come back after i graduate, and see all my friends again...but i dunno if i'll be able to be without my friends for over 2 years...
Help me out here...Should i think about the future in my career(I plan to join to AF or Navy) Or should i think about my social life now...
I know it seems like a simple question...but i'm having a hard time with it right now.
My life sucks.
slowEJ6
11-01-2002, 08:38 PM
well yer like what, 16? drinking, stealing, doing bad in school. either some therapy or military school, imo.
00 Si
11-01-2002, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by slow ej6
well yer like what, 16? drinking, stealing, doing bad in school. either some therapy or military school, imo.
16???? And your doing that? WTF? I mean dang bro......why in the world would you want to do that?
I don't think military school is the answer, just get your life straight. The way I look at things are, if I'm about to do something, I think first to myself "Is this going to benifit me later?" and "Would I see any millionair doing this?" If I answer NO to either of those questions, it's not really worth my time because it's not going to benifit me later.
V8killimports
11-01-2002, 09:11 PM
Military school would help, but there is not always gonna be someone there to tell you what to do. I suggest getting your life in order yourself. You shouldn't need someone to make you not drink, get goor grades, not steal, etc.
4jacks
11-01-2002, 09:30 PM
you need to go to church
seriously, if you worry about your afterlife, then god will work your life out just fine.
AzCivic
11-01-2002, 09:36 PM
Damn it doesnt sound like you do anything most teenagers dont do, I did all that shit(even screwing around with a vending machine, didnt break into it though just tipped it forward to get free drinks). You sound smart enough not to do anything really dumb so just keep it cool and dont get arrested and dont do any illegal drugs for like a year before you go into the military. Oh and when they(recruiter and anyone else) ask you if you've used illegal drugs JUST SAY NO! They really dont care they just have to ask you, just make sure you can pass a pee test. I'm not saying you do drugs just letting you or anyone else know.
AzCivic
11-01-2002, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by 4jacks
you need to go to church
seriously, if you worry about your afterlife, then god will work your life out just fine.
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Originally posted by 4jacks
you need to go to church
seriously, if you worry about your afterlife, then god will work your life out just fine.
I agree....if you go to military school it might help you out for the time that you're in there but as soon as you get out and have your freedom again you'll go right back to the way that you were....what you need is structure in your life and that's something that you're gonna have to find from within.......just my $0.02.........
bx_integra
11-01-2002, 09:54 PM
Ight bro...I can understand where you coming from...Im 16 turning 17 in 3 weeks...bro I was just like you a couple of months ago...I used to smoke a blunt everyday...i used to drink every weekend...I used to steal from cars...I used to sell anything i stole...the only reason i have my car is b/c i stole the money from my father to buy the car...my parents found out about everything...they sent me to Dominican Republic to a Military school over there for 2 months and trust me its not the answer, i asked my parents to let me come back that i would change...I came back and got a job...I paid my father back the money and kept my car...I dont drink no more or smoke weed...Im working now for my money and im doing better in skool...If you really interested in cars bro then make the effort to stop wit all the stupid shit going on in your life at the moment and turn urself around...If I could do it then so can u man...bro just give your life some thought...ur not going nowhere the way you acting now so just change your ways...make that effort and you'll see that shit will change...
Originally posted by 4jacks
you need to go to church
seriously, if you worry about your afterlife, then god will work your life out just fine.
I don't believe in god...
The thing is...i wanna smoke, and drink...and do whatever else i want, be it illegal or legal, and this might be the only thing that can stop me from doing all that "bad stuff."
I know that if i stay where i am...nothing's going to change...i'll keep doing what i'm doing except i'll just be more careful abotu getting caught.
And I'm kinda fond of the fact that going to military school will help me in the Navy or AF(it will right?)
I'm a smart guy...could do well if i cared...
And even if it doesn't work out...and i feel like i'm gonna kill myself if i go to a military school...maybe that hanging over my head will help me work stuff out...
bx_integra
11-01-2002, 10:18 PM
I think that going to military skool would help you out with the Navy and AF...dude if you think that going to military skool is the best thing for you then go for it...I mean if you think its going to help you change your ways then Im behind you all the way...Do whatever it takes for you to make your life better and leave all that bad shit behind...
00 Si
11-01-2002, 10:30 PM
Just an FYI, you need to get your mind right before you can get your life right. Think about what your doing before you do it.
bx_integra
11-01-2002, 10:32 PM
^ Very True
Originally posted by Kyle
I don't believe in god...
The thing is...i wanna smoke, and drink...and do whatever else i want, be it illegal or legal, and this might be the only thing that can stop me from doing all that "bad stuff."
I know that if i stay where i am...nothing's going to change...i'll keep doing what i'm doing except i'll just be more careful abotu getting caught.
And I'm kinda fond of the fact that going to military school will help me in the Navy or AF(it will right?)
I'm a smart guy...could do well if i cared...
And even if it doesn't work out...and i feel like i'm gonna kill myself if i go to a military school...maybe that hanging over my head will help me work stuff out...
First of all....wtf??? you don't believe in GOD?? Well, sorry to tell you that's your first problem...I'm not the most religious person out there...actually far from it...BUT everyone has to have some kind of structure and if you don't believe in GOD...and afterlife...blah blah blah, than you have nothing to base your life on so of course your gonna do whatever the **** you want to do....and no, with the attitude that you have, military school isn't gonna help you out in the AF or Navy later....when you get to your first base, you pretty much have the freedom to do whatever you want....so, o.k., you'll be "structured" for the first few weeks...months...whatever. Then you'll go to a party with some friends whether it be on base or off base and at one point or another you'll be around drugs and alcohol and be tempted....you think it's bad to get caught doing drugs when you're a civilian? Try it while you're in the military....
You need guidance from somewhere and IMO military school probably won't do shit.......
Originally posted by AccordinStyle
First of all....wtf??? you don't believe in GOD?? Well, sorry to tell you that's your first problem...I'm not the most religious person out there...actually far from it...BUT everyone has to have some kind of structure and if you don't believe in GOD...and afterlife...blah blah blah, than you have nothing to base your life on so of course your gonna do whatever the **** you want to do....and no, with the attitude that you have, military school isn't gonna help you out in the AF or Navy later....when you get to your first base, you pretty much have the freedom to do whatever you want....so, o.k., you'll be "structured" for the first few weeks...months...whatever. Then you'll go to a party with some friends whether it be on base or off base and at one point or another you'll be around drugs and alcohol and be tempted....you think it's bad to get caught doing drugs when you're a civilian? Try it while you're in the military....
You need guidance from somewhere and IMO military school probably won't do shit.......
whoa dude...chill out...You'd be suprised how many people don't believe in god...I just can't force myself to believe in anything like that...to me it's just nonsense...please don't critisize me for having my own beliefs...I base my life on the fact that i want to live, and enjoy life.
And what i meant by saying it'd help me in the AF of Navy is that i'd already be used to or atleast sort of accustomed to the whole military thing...not being structured.
Another reason i think i want to do this is because i want to find that something to strive for...that one thing to work for...thats what i want...
Originally posted by Kyle
whoa dude...chill out...You'd be suprised how many people don't believe in god...I just can't force myself to believe in anything like that...to me it's just nonsense...please don't critisize me for having my own beliefs...I base my life on the fact that i want to live, and enjoy life.
And what i meant by saying it'd help me in the AF of Navy is that i'd already be used to or atleast sort of accustomed to the whole military thing...not being structured.
Another reason i think i want to do this is because i want to find that something to strive for...that one thing to work for...thats what i want...
o.k....I apologize...flew off the handle there a little bit :crazy: but I see what you're saying....just let me give you an example of my life....when I was 16-17-18, I drank..alot...and smoked (alot)...and was a thief (long story) and my life was going to shit...literally. I got arrested, got kicked out of my parents house...had to fend for myself...then one day something (maybe a little birdie, maybe GOD, maybe my conscience...don't know) just clicked and I was like "wtf am I doing?" From that day on, I straightened up and started living my life and putting a path in front of myself. I worked for a big company where I started at the bottom and worked my way to the top...I was 21 making $32k/year....I resigned 4 yrs later and joined the military and it wasn't to get stucture, it was because I didn't go to college and didn't have the money/time to go on my own. So, I joined so the military would pay for my education.....that and having prior military experience on your resume is a big plus later on.........
00 Si
11-01-2002, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by AccordinStyle
o.k....I apologize...flew off the handle there a little bit :crazy: but I see what you're saying....just let me give you an example of my life....when I was 16-17-18, I drank..alot...and smoked (alot)...and was a thief (long story) and my life was going to shit...literally. I got arrested, got kicked out of my parents house...had to fend for myself...then one day something (maybe a little birdie, maybe GOD, maybe my conscience...don't know) just clicked and I was like "wtf am I doing?" From that day on, I straightened up and started living my life and putting a path in front of myself. I worked for a big company where I started at the bottom and worked my way to the top...I was 21 making $32k/year....I resigned 4 yrs later and joined the military and it wasn't to get stucture, it was because I didn't go to college and didn't have the money/time to go on my own. So, I joined so the military would pay for my education.....that and having prior military experience on your resume is a big plus later on.........
I'm with ya bro. God needs to be in everyone's life.
AccordinStyle, see ya up stairs!!
You trying to make me feel bad or something?...lol
Originally posted by 00 Si
I'm with ya bro. God needs to be in everyone's life.
AccordinStyle, see ya up stairs!!
:yes: :banana: <-- I know this is your guy but I thought it was appropriate for the response ;)
AzCivic
11-01-2002, 11:09 PM
Military school is not really going to help you with the military.
I wonder how people can not believe in God, I mean do people honestly think that everything in the universe is due to millions of damn coincidences. I mean I used to be all skeptical and think that religion was something people made up just to feel better when someone close died, but then I thought about it for a long time and came to the conclusion that all of this in our universe just didnt happen for no apparent reason.
ohiochica
11-01-2002, 11:14 PM
kyle, you have a pm.
slowEJ6
11-02-2002, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by AzCivic
I wonder how people can not believe in God, I mean do people honestly think that everything in the universe is due to millions of damn coincidences. I mean I used to be all skeptical and think that religion was something people made up just to feel better when someone close died, but then I thought about it for a long time and came to the conclusion that all of this in our universe just didnt happen for no apparent reason.
i dont believe in "God". Millions of coincidences? its called evolution. thats how i see it, YOU cant change my mind, NOONE can change my mind, thats how I feel.
Thats like me asking you, do you honestly think "God" just waved his hands and put people and animals on this planet?
To each his own. nuff said.
cstrom80
11-02-2002, 08:11 AM
Man... I feel you. When I was 16, I got caught steeling a car. My life was pretty bad at the time. They were going to lock me up for awhile but my grades in high school were A's and B's. School wasn't really my problem. It was all the influence from my peers that got me in trouble. I didn't realize it at the time but I really needed an ass kicking because I was headed down a path towards disaster. Because I had good grades, the court thought that it wasn't me and that it was the people around me. I left for Fork Union Military Academy for 2 years. Only male. Strict as hell. Shit was horrible at first but there's a certain bond that you develop because everyone else hates it just as much as you do. My school was 4 hours away from my house so I visited home every other weekend. I just started to go out with a girl when I left. It was hard but we stayed together through my freshman year in college. I really don't have an opinion on what you should do. It all really depends on the individual. For me, I think without military school I'd be locked up somewhere. But my situation was pretty bad. Sounds worse than yours. When you go to military school, you have the winter break and summer break off. You can visit home a couple times a month for weekends if you don't mess up and someone's willing to pick you up and drop you back off. Some military schools are coed. Some offer internet access in the barracks (rooms). If you go to military school to get better you are basically trying to get out of your current atmosphere so there will be no peer pressure because you won't have the freedoms you have now like speeding, drinking, etc. Find a more relaxed military school. That's my advice.
AzCivic
11-02-2002, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by slow ej6
i dont believe in "God". Millions of coincidences? its called evolution. thats how i see it, YOU cant change my mind, NOONE can change my mind, thats how I feel.
Thats like me asking you, do you honestly think "God" just waved his hands and put people and animals on this planet?
To each his own. nuff said.
I'm not trying to change anyones mind. But think about it, the universe is not here because of evolution...scientists think that somehow there was an explosion from NOTHING and over billions of years everything fell together just right so there were stars and galaxies. Then things came together just right even more and planets formed and over the next few billion years inanimate particles somehow came together and made a LIVING organism. Then after millions more years these single cellular organisms came together just right so that they made a more complex piece of life and so on, and so forth until intelligent animals walked the earth. Then over millions of years finally human like animals appeared and finally us. Thats alot of coincidences, there's even more when you really get into all of this. Now I'm not saying all this is impossible but this crap didnt happen for no reason and with no plan to guide the process.
Kinda off topic, but whatever.
You act like humans are something really really complex...something important...
I believe in evolution...we all evolved from something...
And when we die...we just die. Thats it!
AzCivic
11-02-2002, 01:05 PM
You dont think Humans are complex???
About as complex as dogs and cats...any other animal in the world.
AzCivic
11-02-2002, 01:26 PM
Then why arent dogs and cats or anyother animal in the world building technology or pondering whats right or wrong, etc.?
They haven't EVOLVED to that point yet...i think the day will come...
probably in millions of years though...
FAST97WS6
11-02-2002, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Kyle
I don't believe in god...
The thing is...i wanna smoke, and drink...and do whatever else i want, be it illegal or legal, and this might be the only thing that can stop me from doing all that "bad stuff."
I know that if i stay where i am...nothing's going to change...i'll keep doing what i'm doing except i'll just be more careful abotu getting caught.
And I'm kinda fond of the fact that going to military school will help me in the Navy or AF(it will right?)
I'm a smart guy...could do well if i cared...
And even if it doesn't work out...and i feel like i'm gonna kill myself if i go to a military school...maybe that hanging over my head will help me work stuff out...
dude you have a problem, i'm only 3 years older than you, and bro smoking, NOT COOL, drinking is fine IMO, and stealing? come on dude, your life sucks because you make it suck......why worry about getting caught, when all you could just do, is be smarter about things, SCHOOL is imporant, i was not the smartest at all, i graduated with a 3.0, but dude you need to suck it up, and do somthing with your self, you say your life sucks, well make it better.....and god should be in EVERYONES life, read the bible man, it may enlighten you, i did, and it was a huge wake up call! i still sin, everyone sins, but still try to live a better life, instead of getting al shitty over the mistakes YOU made, and got caught for!
good luck man!
FAST97WS6
11-02-2002, 06:57 PM
oh yeah if you ever go millitary, GO MARINES! best decsion i ever made!
Originally posted by FAST97WS6
dude you have a problem, i'm only 3 years older than you, and bro smoking, NOT COOL, drinking is fine IMO, and stealing? come on dude, your life sucks because you make it suck......why worry about getting caught, when all you could just do, is be smarter about things, SCHOOL is imporant, i was not the smartest at all, i graduated with a 3.0, but dude you need to suck it up, and do somthing with your self, you say your life sucks, well make it better.....and god should be in EVERYONES life, read the bible man, it may enlighten you, i did, and it was a huge wake up call! i still sin, everyone sins, but still try to live a better life, instead of getting al shitty over the mistakes YOU made, and got caught for!
good luck man!
Well, i'm gonna quit breaking the law...
I might have a few drinks here and there...and cut back on those cigs and weed...
And i'm in the process of getting my ass outa school...there is no question whether i'll graduate or not.
But my future is still sketchy...I wanna join the military...And i also wanna be a mechanic of some kind...(I love to fix things)
IT will get better...it always does...
AzCivic
11-02-2002, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Kyle
But my future is still sketchy...I wanna join the military...And i also wanna be a mechanic of some kind...(I love to fix things)
IT will get better...it always does...
Be a mechanic in the military.
AzCivic
11-02-2002, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Kyle
They haven't EVOLVED to that point yet...i think the day will come...
probably in millions of years though...
Uhh if you say so????
well, just think about it...we were just like them once...except our bodies were totally dif...we didn't have machines and other comlex shit like that...but eventually we learned..and we eventually started evolving and starting learning more...it makes sense...
AzCivic
11-02-2002, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Kyle
well, just think about it...we were just like them once...except our bodies were totally dif...we didn't have machines and other comlex shit like that...but eventually we learned..and we eventually started evolving and starting learning more...it makes sense...
Yeah, but all these dumb animals have been around as long if not way longer and they havent got any smarter. Take bugs for example, those things have been around for like ever, they just got smaller, no smarter, just smaller.
lol, you just look at it from a dif light...
AzCivic
11-02-2002, 08:05 PM
Yeah I guess, but i see what your saying.
But I also think that all animals are pretty complex, going back to the whole coincidence thing.
well, i think everything is complex...humans aren't anymore comlex to anything else...
AzCivic
11-02-2002, 08:11 PM
Biologically I agree.
Its the mental/spiritual part that I believe seperates us from animals.
YEah, thats true...
I'm not saying i'm totally sure animals are gonna evolve to have technology or whatever...just saying it could happen...their brains could become more comlex than ours.
AzCivic
11-02-2002, 08:17 PM
Only time will tell, and it aint gonna tell us cause we'll be long gone.:)
4jacks
11-02-2002, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Kyle
I don't believe in god...
The thing is...i wanna smoke, and drink...and do whatever else i want, be it illegal or legal, and this might be the only thing that can stop me from doing all that "bad stuff."
I know that if i stay where i am...nothing's going to change...i'll keep doing what i'm doing except i'll just be more careful abotu getting caught.
And I'm kinda fond of the fact that going to military school will help me in the Navy or AF(it will right?)
I'm a smart guy...could do well if i cared...
And even if it doesn't work out...and i feel like i'm gonna kill myself if i go to a military school...maybe that hanging over my head will help me work stuff out...
No going to military school will not HELP you in the AF or Navy, ROTC in HS will help you, but going to military school, only lets people know that you were a troubled youth.
If you WANNA smoke, drink, and all that other stuff, then nothing will change, you wont' change any of your habits unless you first admit that it is a stronghold in your life. Once you Admit that you have a stronghold in your life, you have to reliaze that you need more than will power to overcome a strong hold.
If you have a stronghold in your life, whether it be sex, drugs, gambling, violence, or whatever. You just need to let god fix it, the people who rely on themselves are the ones who fail over and over again.
First you have to start with what you opened with, "You don't believe in God" How can you live in this world and not admit that someone had to create it, we are much more than an evolved animal. If you need a more scientifical approach, ask anybody to scientically explained the existense of Good and Evil. To deny that there are good and evil forces acting in our world is insane. And evolution will never be able to explain it. The fact remains there is a God. Once you reliaze that there is a God, finding him is not hard, just sincerely pray that god would show himself to you and he will, keep praying don't stop.
Well I hope that helps a little, it's the only way of which i know how to overcome a stronghold.
Please e-mail me if you have any Q's.. i don't read off topic as much as I would like .
I don't believe in god..
i believe that there is no heaven, hell, god, devil and probably any other of the crap in the bible...there is good and evil because some people are dickheads and some are nice...it's as simple as that...i'm sick of people trying to force their stupid ass beliefs on me...just stfu...i don't need people giving me crap about religion...my religion is no religion...and it's gonna stay that way.
4jacks
11-02-2002, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by Kyle
well, just think about it...we were just like them once...except our bodies were totally dif...we didn't have machines and other comlex shit like that...but eventually we learned..and we eventually started evolving and starting learning more...it makes sense...
Stating that some atoms got together and exploded, forming our world and eventualy humans evolved, is like saying that I'm going to take my watch apart into the 200 peices that make up my watch, I'm going to take all those 200 peices and throw them up in the air until they all get together and form my watch again.
it's just like saying some dude came and waved his hands and heaven and earth was there...
If there truly was a god, there wouldn't be death...there wouldn't be pain. EVeryone would live in peace...it's bs
Originally posted by Kyle
If there truly was a god, there wouldn't be death...there wouldn't be pain. EVeryone would live in peace...it's bs
Alright....I was done with this thread but felt that I had to put my $0.02 in again....first of all, Kyle is right...we can't force religion on him if he doesn't want to believe....everyone has they're right to believe what they want to....just know this Kyle, you have to have some kind of structure in your life or you are going to be traveling down a road of shit for the remainder of your life....
Second, about your comment.....if there wasn't such a thing as death they're would be a slight problem with over population of the planet which we are having issues with as it is right now in certain countries/places....as for pain, well...true on earth, there is alot of pain...in a lot of different forms but if you believe in the afterlife (which you don't and that's fine), then all pain disappears when your soul leaves your body but that's a whole other story and we won't get into that.......
And as for living in peace, since you don't believe in Heaven and GOD, then no.....there's no such thing.........
FAST97WS6
11-03-2002, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by AzCivic
Be a mechanic in the military.
good point, listen to me bro, you like working on cars...correct? i'll try to help you out, you can go to the marines, after bootcamp, get your MOS, and work on HUMMERS, and all kinds of shit, learn all about it, AND, where i'm going to be stationed, they have a state of the art shop for all marines to use, NO cost, liftes, tools, ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING you need to fix your car up, and its not used for Military vehaciles, its for any marines to use on there own personal cars, like when i get there, you best beleive i'm going to be useing that shop, i like running 10s, but i just need to go faster, so i have not decided my new path, thinking about saving some money up and doing a 427 over the 383,.....but anyways like i'm saying bro, you can go to the marines, work on car and other cool ass shit, learn all about it FOR FREE, 100% paided for, free room and board, free use of a state of the art shop, and you get to hold the title MARINE! which soon here i will have the plesure of be able to say, somthing to think about, your still young......good luck bro!
FAST97WS6
11-03-2002, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Kyle
If there truly was a god, there wouldn't be death...there wouldn't be pain. EVeryone would live in peace...it's bs
hey i feel its my duty to pass this on.........read the bible, you might be suprised at what you learn and realize, it WILL enlighten you, it may seem boring, but man, you will be a better person after reading it, it really does open your eyes to EVEYRTHING, i mean you don't have too, but its worth a shot, i'm not saying your going ot read it and your life will be fee of everything, god PUT sin on this earth, he also gave you a brain, he gave you choices, its just up to you tomake the right ones, i'm not going to lie, i've made some really bad choices in my life i never should have made, stay in school, graduate, theres not better feeling man, ........think about it man...its not BS.......
Originally posted by FAST97WS6
hey i feel its my duty to pass this on.........read the bible, you might be suprised at what you learn and realize, it WILL enlighten you, it may seem boring, but man, you will be a better person after reading it, it really does open your eyes to EVEYRTHING, i mean you don't have too, but its worth a shot, i'm not saying your going ot read it and your life will be fee of everything, god PUT sin on this earth, he also gave you a brain, he gave you choices, its just up to you tomake the right ones, i'm not going to lie, i've made some really bad choices in my life i never should have made, stay in school, graduate, theres not better feeling man, ........think about it man...its not BS.......
AMEN!
slowEJ6
11-03-2002, 01:30 AM
why does it seem some people cant just let others have their own path of thinking? damn people always trying to force religion on others - you arent going to get your point across. to you it sounds silly that people think its all about evolution and coincidences. to me it sounds silly that you think "God" just did this all on his own as if a "being" could have this kind of power. sorry, that doesnt fly with me.
and i already know about the "bang" and how "coincidental" it is that the earth is how it is today, but hey...shit happens - science is where im at, ive been into the whole evolution/outer space thing since 6th grade and i read whatever i can about it, and i watch whatever is on tv about it when something interesting is on and im just chillin at home. :thumbup:
AzCivic
11-03-2002, 02:49 AM
Its not like were knocking on your door everyday trying to get you to listen to us or something, he wanted direction and advice and we supplied our thoughts.
ohiochica
11-03-2002, 05:20 AM
omg guys give him a damn break on the religion though. all your going top do is turn him against religion even more. i can say this from eexperience. i had religion forced down my throat for years, i rebelled and went towards teh wiccan culture. when my mom got sick i kinda reevaluated things and now i can say i dont believe in god etc but i do believe in afterlife.
ok i got side tracked......my point was lay off him on the religion! the rotc is a good route to go and i kinda agree with a few other comments, going to military school may give you some needed structure but it will also be a black mark telling everyone you were a "troubled" youth. and like a previous person said you have to realize this has astronghol on you and when you realize that and only when you realize it you can then work to change it and better your life.
Originally posted by FAST97WS6
good point, listen to me bro, you like working on cars...correct? i'll try to help you out, you can go to the marines, after bootcamp, get your MOS, and work on HUMMERS, and all kinds of shit, learn all about it, AND, where i'm going to be stationed, they have a state of the art shop for all marines to use, NO cost, liftes, tools, ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING you need to fix your car up, and its not used for Military vehaciles, its for any marines to use on there own personal cars, like when i get there, you best beleive i'm going to be useing that shop, i like running 10s, but i just need to go faster, so i have not decided my new path, thinking about saving some money up and doing a 427 over the 383,.....but anyways like i'm saying bro, you can go to the marines, work on car and other cool ass shit, learn all about it FOR FREE, 100% paided for, free room and board, free use of a state of the art shop, and you get to hold the title MARINE! which soon here i will have the plesure of be able to say, somthing to think about, your still young......good luck bro!
I knew about the shop thing...i think the army does that too...
But i've heard that the living conditions in the marines are the worse...
can you maybe give me a heads up on that?...and bootcamp's probably frickin hard..
slowEJ6
11-03-2002, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by AzCivic
Its not like were knocking on your door everyday trying to get you to listen to us or something, he wanted direction and advice and we supplied our thoughts.
giving your opinion and ridiculing others beliefs.....hmmmm.
Originally posted by slow ej6
giving your opinion and ridiculing others beliefs.....hmmmm. :yes:
AzCivic
11-03-2002, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Kyle
I knew about the shop thing...i think the army does that too...
But i've heard that the living conditions in the marines are the worse...
can you maybe give me a heads up on that?...and bootcamp's probably frickin hard..
Thats where i do all my work on my car.
As far as living conditions, it really depends on what base you live on, a Marine base here could be better than a AF base somewhere else and visa versa. Generally the AF is supposed to have the best living conditions, generally.
Marine corps boot camp is the hardest of them all, but on the other hand you'll feel like you really accomplished something when your done. Unlike after I got done with AF basic training, it was a breeze.
AzCivic
11-03-2002, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by slow ej6
giving your opinion and ridiculing others beliefs.....hmmmm.
OK sure, if you say so. Does it scare you to think about this stuff or something? Why are you getting so defensive when people are having a decent conversation about God. No one's making you read this, no one's hounding you, telling you that your going to hell or some crap.
slowEJ6
11-03-2002, 09:13 PM
still going huh? cant just live with the fact people think differently than you?
:D:D im getting defensive? what exactly is there to be scared of? im quite ok with the fact that people choose their own beliefs, doesnt seem like you are, judging by what youve been saying. :cigar:
FAST97WS6
11-03-2002, 09:53 PM
ok first off about the god thing, yall need to chill out, i'm not pressuering him to do shit, i'm just offering my advice, he can take whatever path he wants too! it really doesn't matter to me, i'm just trying to help him out!
dude its all a ****ing rumor, marines get paided the same as everyone else, the only reason why air force, army, navy get paided more in the long run, well not in all cases, its easier to get promoted in those branches, my recruiter has been in for 17 years and is an E7 GSgt, and i know guys in the army who are E7s that have been in for like 2 years, pay is based on rank, right now i'm only a Lance Corpal, E3.....anyways man, its up to you, do whats best! later bro
AzCivic
11-04-2002, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by slow ej6
still going huh? cant just live with the fact people think differently than you?
:D:D im getting defensive? what exactly is there to be scared of? im quite ok with the fact that people choose their own beliefs, doesnt seem like you are, judging by what youve been saying. :cigar:
Still going? Oh I'm sorry I thought this whole forum thing was a place to communicate ideas, my bad.
I also am fine with people choosing their own beliefs.
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