This has nothing to do with hondas, but hey, what the heck.....

[OPAKRACING]

Whats the best cat back exhaust for VW GTI VR6's

and thats the best headers for the same car?

[se-r turbo]

uhhhh..a motec system exhaust:rolleyes:

[Addict]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
Whats the best cat back exhaust for VW GTI VR6's

and thats the best headers for the same car?

Why do you ask? :confused:

[OPAKRACING]

cause when i'm 18, i'm getting one (my daddy is buying one for me :) )

[Addict]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
cause when i'm 18, i'm getting one (my daddy is buying one for me :) )

Get a 1.8t. You'll have more fun with it. T-T-T-TURBO!

[OPAKRACING]

well, i can turbo to vr6 and it'll woop and 1.8t.


and plus a vr6 is a bigger engine, and when i turbo it, it'll beat anything! it'll be so awesome! and i tune it right.

[ShEaNy]

whats wrong with ur car now?

[Addict]

Originally posted by sheany_91accord
whats wrong with ur car now?
my daddy is buying one for me
:rolleyes:

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by sheany_91accord
whats wrong with ur car now?


My car now isn't fast enough! :(

And even iof i decied to take it further and get the max HP outta it, i'd mx out at 300....about.

And i want a 6 cyl anywho :)

ya know, it's faster. Tuned right, it could easily beat pretty much any civic...and plus, i wanna go all the way with the GTI, Turbo, maybe twin, everything from A-Z (if ya know waht i mean)

[monkut]

cool. i dont see/hear about many turbo'ed vr6's. how much hp/tq stock?

[OPAKRACING]

GTI VR6 can go to 0-60 in 7.7 seconds stock

174 HP, 2.8 liter, VR6 engine, with 181 lb-ft @ 3200 RPM

I WANT IT NOW! OMG!!!

[Addict]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
GTI VR6 can go to 0-60 in 7.7 seconds stock

174 HP, 2.8 liter, VR6 engine, with 181 lb-ft @ 3200 RPM

I WANT IT NOW! OMG!!!
The 0-60 is not that impressive. Especially since my car does 7.9 stock and its only a 4 cylinder.

I'm telling you. Get the 1.8t.....:yes:

[OPAKRACING]

Dude! a twin turbo'ed VR6? or a instantly gradifying 1.8t from the factory?

i'd rather wait and twin the VR6.

[guest]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
well, i can turbo to vr6 and it'll woop and 1.8t.


and plus a vr6 is a bigger engine, and when i turbo it, it'll beat anything! it'll be so awesome! and i tune it right.

hehe... I'll race ya ;)

[Addict]

Yeah I don't see a twin turbo happening. Have you ever seen the engine bay of a VR6? There's not a whole lot of room.

[2ndGenTeg]

We are now OT.

[Kyle]

just get a supra or something...instead of wasting your dads money on a cheap 6 cil...

[slowEJ6]

2jz-gte is the V6 of the gods. :yes:

[94_AcCoRd_EX]

VWs are very expensive to fix and get parts for. My old GTi cost a fortune to fix up.

[OPAKRACING]

so, when i get a new car (in 2005) i should get a supra ya think?

i mena, if i twin or evenn just put on turbo on a supra, it could woop anything huh? they're fast, right? i know nothing about toyotas. hehe


and i'm sure the after market companyts would make parts for the supra first in 1005 beofer they'd make um for the 1005 GTI, ya know...
ok, thnx for the info

[OPAKRACING]

i went to toyota.com

and they didn't have the supra on their site...?

[mt.biker]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
i went to toyota.com

and they didn't have the supra on their site...?

its not in production anymore

[OPAKRACING]

Damn it!

well, if you could buy a new car, what would you buy? (not just Mt.bike, anyone who wants to answer)

[slowEJ6]

the Supra TT already has 2 turbos, comes stock that way.
1993.5 - 1998
800+hp on a stock internal motor easily.

no you cant beat everything, especially going from driving a civic to a supra - it'll take some learning.

[mt.biker]

I would buy a 330i in stick and turbo that puppy. Its classy, not alot of people drive em, and hey i know for a fact you can take them above 150mph stock, well you have to remove the chip

[mt.biker]

or I would buy a rsx-s and turbo that puppy they 6.1 0-60mph stock

[OPAKRACING]

yea, but thats another german car....wouldn't it be hard ot find performence parts for it and stuff?

and i've seen a vidoe of a twin tubo GTI vr6....its hella fast, lol

[mt.biker]

VW rubs me the wrong way, I would much rather own a BMW then a VW. They say once you go BMW you never go back. A friend of mine drives a 325i bored out to a 3.0l engine and it does 0-60 in 5.9s He says its putting out around 230hp, and think how light that car is.. hmm yes!

[OPAKRACING]

hmm, i'm lookn at the RSX type s right now....*drool*

with a turbo, and the right tuning (intake, exhaust(headers, cat., muffler), pullys, fuel reg., some other bolt-ons) i think i'd have a damn fast car! am i right?

[mt.biker]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
hmm, i'm lookn at the RSX type s right now....*drool*

with a turbo, and the right tuning (intake, exhaust(headers, cat., muffler), pullys, fuel reg., some other bolt-ons) i think i'd have a damn fast car! am i right?
well its very fast now so i'd say your correct thus far

[OPAKRACING]

hmm, what are some other cars that'd be good ot fix up (new)

...as an alternative to my GTI.

[Kyle]

350zx;)

[OPAKRACING]

man! the RSX type S is a lead weight! dang!


2.7k pounds?

[VieT916]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
hmm, i'm lookn at the RSX type s right now....*drool*

with a turbo, and the right tuning (intake, exhaust(headers, cat., muffler), pullys, fuel reg., some other bolt-ons) i think i'd have a damn fast car! am i right?

Do you even have the slightest ****ing clue what you're talking about? A turbo with a header and intake? Okay. . . . The intake part is semi-legit (although you probably don't know why), and all turbo guys know why the header part isn't.

And you consider tuning an intake, full exhaust, and other bolt-on parts? You need to do some research and get a clue.

[slowEJ6]

http://www.revhard.com/rsx.html

yes, do some research plz. learn more about turbos before you just jump into something like that.

[Kyle]

lol, i caught that too...:no:

[ShEaNy]

heh just get a Type R integra...or a TT 300ZX....

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
man! the RSX type S is a lead weight! dang!


2.7k pounds?
i tip the scale at 2961lbs :no:

slowej6... 2jz-gte is a inline 6, and its a toss up between that and the rb26dett for the "god" of 6's

honestly, i'd look into the new WRX's or evo8's

[Addict]

OPAK,
Are you able to get any car you want? If so, get a Lamborghini Diablo VT. Hell with everything else.
You really better read up on what you are going to do to your car. It'll make you look stupid when you talk to other people if you can't explain the details. Just a warning.

Originally posted by mt.biker
...and think how light that car is.. hmm yes!
3087 lbs isn't that light....
Not to mention my stock Si could take out 325's all day. Now if its bored to 3.0L, I'll probably have a bit of trouble keeping up.:bandit:

[Addict]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
man! the RSX type S is a lead weight! dang!

2.7k pounds?

That's not that heavy. Also, all the weights you see are curb weight. No gas, no driver.

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by VieT916
Do you even have the slightest ****ing clue what you're talking about? A turbo with a header and intake? Okay. . . . The intake part is semi-legit (although you probably don't know why), and all turbo guys know why the header part isn't.

And you consider tuning an intake, full exhaust, and other bolt-on parts? You need to do some research and get a clue.


i heard some people talking about turbo headers....how far off am i? Gawd, ya don't gotta be so mean about it...Way to win friends and influence people!!! *thumbs up*

[slowEJ6]

Originally posted by 4thGenlude
slowej6... 2jz-gte is a inline 6, and its a toss up between that and the rb26dett for the "god" of 6's
i know that, but i threw it up there as that for arguments sake.yes rb26dett is swell, but i dont see many skylines on the road - so i left it out of the equation.
the WRX...eh...wait till the STi model comes out, im not a fan of such weak transmissions. :no:

[drdingo21]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
i heard some people talking about turbo headers....how far off am i? Gawd, ya don't gotta be so mean about it...Way to win friends and influence people!!! *thumbs up* you can't have them both because the turbo replaces the header. If i were you i would look into a supra (although the 93 with 100000 miles on it is still 30k) they are twin turbo stock and fast. but you not gonna live under your mommy and daddy for ever so you have to think about insurance...especially since yor not even 18 yet.

[mt.biker]

Originally posted by Civic_Addict

Not to mention my stock Si could take out 325's all day. Now if its bored to 3.0L, I'll probably have a bit of trouble keeping up.:bandit:

why do you say that?

[Racing Rice]

Get the 1.8T

They have just a little bit less power then a VR6 but they are a lot cheaper to make fast since they are already Turbocharged.

A stock 1.8T is good for 390hp on stock internals while your "Fast" VR6 isnt. Take my word for on this one. I have several friends that are into VWs and while the VR6 is a little faster stock with mods the 1.8T will kill one unless you spend a ton of money on the VR6.

I say it again..

Get the 1.8T

:yes:

[Addict]

Originally posted by mt.biker
why do you say that?
Because you mentioned the 325i in a previous post. They aren't that quick. Maybe your friends 3.0L version. Not to mention they are kinda heavy.

Originally posted by Racing Rice
Get the 1.8T
...
Get the 1.8T


Ditto!
Like I said in the first post. 1.8T!

[ChrisCantSkate]

even the 3.0's arnt that fast. they are quick, but not something to brag about

[slowEJ6]

insurance on a turbocharged car for someone younger than 18 isnt cheap.....are your parents paying for that too?

[Addict]

Originally posted by slow ej6
insurance on a turbocharged car for someone younger than 18 isnt cheap.....are your parents paying for that too?
The way it sounds, he won't pay for anything. :crazy:

[Accord Man]

I havent read the entire thread.. But I'd go with a new 1.8t.


Dude, you sound new to VWs, before buying, you really should research the matter.. Even though you're not paying for it.

[VieT916]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
i heard some people talking about turbo headers....how far off am i? Gawd, ya don't gotta be so mean about it...Way to win friends and influence people!!! *thumbs up*

Don't have to be mean? Have you even read any of my other posts? i'm far from mean. I just don't like kids spewing out a bunch of ish when they have no clue about what they talk about ... like you. and you think I'm trying to use an Internet message board to "win friends?" think again. And I do influence people. I'm on more boards than this one, guy. nice try, anyway. "*thubs up*" for your effort. :rolleyes:

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by VieT916
Don't have to be mean? Have you even read any of my other posts? i'm far from mean. I just don't like kids spewing out a bunch of ish when they have no clue about what they talk about ... like you. and you think I'm trying to use an Internet message board to "win friends?" think again. And I do influence people. I'm on more boards than this one, guy. nice try, anyway. "*thubs up*" for your effort. :rolleyes:

the way you worded your post was in an attacking manner....you coulda started off teaching me about turbos, and how they act as teh header...like drdingo21. instead you told me i knew Sh** about it.

I think i'm gunna go with the RSX type S....turboed, or even twined it sounds hella fast with some other mods on it.

to do a twin turbo on a car, does it require a special kit? or can i just go buy 2 turbos? and is it any different to take car of? and do i have to get two: turbo timers, and boost controllers, or can i hook both up to one...i have no idea, lol



thnx for the info guys.

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
the way you worded your post was in an attacking manner....you coulda started off teaching me about turbos, and how they act as teh header...like drdingo21. instead you told me i knew Sh** about it.

I think i'm gunna go with the RSX type S....turboed, or even twined it sounds hella fast with some other mods on it.

to do a twin turbo on a car, does it require a special kit? or can i just go buy 2 turbos? and is it any different to take car of? and do i have to get two: turbo timers, and boost controllers, or can i hook both up to one...i have no idea, lol



thnx for the info guys.
twin isnt always better. i'd read on turbo eficenecy before this turns bad. you CAN twin a rsx if you had enough money, no one makes a kit, because it is a COMPLETE waste of money. you will get less power, more lag, more problems

[OPAKRACING]

ok, so a single turbo is usually better? and the reason i'm saying kit, is because someone told me that if you put on together yourself, you can run into problems with legality, is this correct?

[slowEJ6]

read....about....TURBOS. www.google.com
search, read, learn.
if you arent going to do that and just ask for opinions on this site, your RSX is going to see more garage time than street time.

twin turbo RSX :rolleyes:

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
ok, so a single turbo is usually better? and the reason i'm saying kit, is because someone told me that if you put on together yourself, you can run into problems with legality, is this correct?
well, i dont nkow of any carb legal kits, living in cali, i see a rsx turbo being a HUGE problem for on-road use. how long do you have before your 18? if its a while, learn ALOT beofre you make a decission. theres much you dont know. www.howstuffworks.com has ALOT of information on everything from turbo's to LSD's to rotory engines, and even how regular engines work. read eveything on that site... and you will learn alot

[VieT916]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
the way you worded your post was in an attacking manner....you coulda started off teaching me about turbos, and how they act as teh header...like drdingo21. instead you told me i knew Sh** about it.

I think i'm gunna go with the RSX type S....turboed, or even twined it sounds hella fast with some other mods on it.

to do a twin turbo on a car, does it require a special kit? or can i just go buy 2 turbos? and is it any different to take car of? and do i have to get two: turbo timers, and boost controllers, or can i hook both up to one...i have no idea, lol



thnx for the info guys.

That's true; I was attacking you. I'm glad you caught that.

But don't you already know everything about turbos? I mean, you saw a twin-turboed VR6 that was fast, and you said you would rather twin-turbo a VR6 than build up a 1.8T. :rolleyes:

You want to know why it'd be impractical to twin turbo a RSX? read up on how turbos work, and this will make more sense. . . .

A turbo is based off the exhaust manifold. A twin-turbo setup generally used on V-banks has a turbo established for a certain number of banks. One for each 3 cylinders on V6s, etc. Twin turbo an I4, and you'll have two banks powering a turbo. Riiiiiight. I hope two cylinders can provide enough exhaust gas velocity to get the turbines spinning. Oh, but they can! Provided you run small enough turbos. And at this point, you'll be making as much power as one turbo could with less custom fabrication and cost.

but that passed over you, I'm sure.

I seriously suggest you stop asking about twin turboing this and that. At least go read up on this before plunging into it. I can see it now in a few months, "Hey, guys, I just got a twin turbo Prelude, but I blew the motor at 30 psi. what happened? what else can I twin turbo?"

[ShEaNy]

hes right....i wouldnt jump right into turboing a car..y not get a nice car..integra or something anything the 1.8T!! and just go form there....not turbo the shit outa it right off the hop...

[toykilla]

Originally posted by Racing Rice
Get the 1.8T

They have just a little bit less power then a VR6 but they are a lot cheaper to make fast since they are already Turbocharged.

A stock 1.8T is good for 390hp on stock internals while your "Fast" VR6 isnt. Take my word for on this one. I have several friends that are into VWs and while the VR6 is a little faster stock with mods the 1.8T will kill one unless you spend a ton of money on the VR6.

I say it again..

Get the 1.8T

:yes:

Untrue...VR6 with a turbo kit could run less half the amount of boost and DESTROY a 1.8lt (even one running more boost than stock). I think a turbo'd VR6 would be kick ass. Twin turbo'd one is a bit over-doing it. Turbo a VR6 and kick ass man.

[OPAKRACING]

yea i agree...but now i have a problem:

1. Get the VR6 and put a turbo on it, and tune it well, and be unique cause no one fixes up VW's, lol

2. get the RSX, turbo that, and tune that well...

which would u do? and why?



also, the reason i wanna get the rubo before i do anything else to the car, is because (i know some peeps are gunna get mad at me for this, but...) don'tcha have to buy a certain kind of intake or certain type of exhaust system if you have a turbo? (i'm going now to read up, lol)

or is it, as long as i don't but headers on it, i'm fine with the turbo?

[Accord Man]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
yea i agree...but now i have a problem:

1. Get the VR6 and put a turbo on it, and tune it well, and be unique cause no one fixes up VW's, lol

2. get the RSX, turbo that, and tune that well...

which would u do? and why?



also, the reason i wanna get the rubo before i do anything else to the car, is because (i know some peeps are gunna get mad at me for this, but...) don'tcha have to buy a certain kind of intake or certain type of exhaust system if you have a turbo? (i'm going now to read up, lol)

or is it, as long as i don't but headers on it, i'm fine with the turbo?


dude there are probably more tuned VWs than Hondas..

Between your choices, I'd go for a vr6, seems kinda obvious to me. RSX really doesnt have much going for it.

VR6t, would be nice, but is a very expensive setup. One guy I know is @ 465hp at the wheels.
But he owns a shop, and did all the work himself.

But like I said before the tuned 1.8t, is a much more cost efficient choice.



My futur car options :
- Maxima 6 speed
- TL-S (soon with 6 speed)
- WRX

:rambo:

[OPAKRACING]

sry, i mean RSX type s....does that change your answer?


and where i live, theres NO tuned VW's...AT ALL. lol


and i want a fast car...i'm not looking for instant gradification...i'm willing to wait to get it too, so i think the VR6 is a good choice for me.

[Accord Man]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
sry, i mean RSX type s....does that change your answer?


and where i live, theres NO tuned VW's...AT ALL. lol


and i want a fast car...i'm not looking for instant gradification...i'm willing to wait to get it too, so i think the VR6 is a good choice for me.

ya your area is heavy on Mistu and Honda.. Every Christmas, I come to SF.. Actually Santa Rosa / Napa area..



I figured you meant the Type S. Same answer.

Again, the VR6 is a much better choice, but dont forget the 1.8t
they run pretty much identical 1/4s.
and the 1.8t could be boosted for less.

oh and you proabably havent heard about the 337. check it out.

[Addict]

Here's the deal.

1. Figure out what car you want
2. Figure out what options/parts that car has available
3. Determine your budget
4. Lay out the plans in detail (and stick to them!)

If you aren't paying for the mods, then get whatever you want and forward the bills to the parents. Otherwise, make sure you get something you can afford to mod. An example... If you are paying for mods, DO NOT get a Supra. Heh.

Anyhow, good luck with your car.

[Racing Rice]

Originally posted by toykilla
Untrue...VR6 with a turbo kit could run less half the amount of boost and DESTROY a 1.8lt (even one running more boost than stock). I think a turbo'd VR6 would be kick ass. Twin turbo'd one is a bit over-doing it. Turbo a VR6 and kick ass man.

How much money would it cost to upgrade a 1.8T compared to putting a turbo on a VR6. The turbo kits for a VR6 arent cheap! :no:

Im not saying that you cant make a VR6 faster then a 1.8T because I know better then that. Im saying its cheaper to make more power. ;)

[Addict]

Originally posted by Racing Rice
How much money would it cost to upgrade a 1.8T compared to putting a turbo on a VR6. The turbo kits for a VR6 arent cheap! :no:

Im not saying that you cant make a VR6 faster then a 1.8T because I know better then that. Im saying its cheaper to make more power. ;)
I agree. The APR chip for a 1.8T is $400. You could chip the 1.8T get a better exhaust for way less than the VR6 turbo. With te extra money you could get better suspension components, traction control, etc.

http://www.matrixengineering.cc/products/vr6turbokits.php $3500 isn't real cheap. Heh

[mt.biker]

Originally posted by Civic_Addict
I agree. The APR chip for a 1.8T is $400. You could chip the 1.8T get a better exhaust for way less than the VR6 turbo. With te extra money you could get better suspension components, traction control, etc.

http://www.matrixengineering.cc/products/vr6turbokits.php $3500 isn't real cheap. Heh

simply stated though the vr6 has more potenial out of the box

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by mt.biker
simply stated though the vr6 has more potenial out of the box
actualy, i'd say the 1.8t has more potential out of the box, and in the long run(read: lots of money) the vr6 would be a better choice.

[Addict]

2003 Jetta GLS 1.8T
Horsepower: 180 hp
Max Horsepower: 5500 rpm
Torque: 173 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 1950 rpm
Weight: 3037 lbs.
MSRP: $21,015

2003 Jetta GLI VR6
Horsepower: 200 hp
Max Horsepower: 6200 rpm
Torque: 195 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 3200 rpm
Weight: 3179 lbs.
MSRP: $23,525

You could spend $2000 on the 1.8T and still be under the stock VR6 price. $2000 on a 1.8T will go a long way.

It all depends on your budget. If you (or your parents) have a bottomless wallet, then the VR6 isn't a bad choice.

[toykilla]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
yea i agree...but now i have a problem:

1. Get the VR6 and put a turbo on it, and tune it well, and be unique cause no one fixes up VW's, lol

2. get the RSX, turbo that, and tune that well...

which would u do? and why?



also, the reason i wanna get the rubo before i do anything else to the car, is because (i know some peeps are gunna get mad at me for this, but...) don'tcha have to buy a certain kind of intake or certain type of exhaust system if you have a turbo? (i'm going now to read up, lol)

or is it, as long as i don't but headers on it, i'm fine with the turbo?

Umm, I think the RSX (any type) sucks ass. I hate the fact that Honda took away the Type-R (my favorite Honda). The intake system will come in the kit you buy, you can put any exhaust on the car you want. Headers are replaced with turbo manifold.

I know what these guys are talking about with the 1.8T crap, I went through the same thing wanting a non turbo eclipse over a turbo'd one. My friend has put the same amount of money into his GST as I have in my GS. He runs 18psi and I run 10psi (for now). I BEAT him every time, so in my case it hasnt actually been cheaper to get an already turbo'd vechile. Just would have been a bit easier. TURBO THE VR6 AND **** IT UP!!!!!!!

[OPAKRACING]

No, my parents aren't paying for the mods.

and i'm kinda in it to wait, ya know, i'd rather have a fast car, that would take some more time to fix up(VR6), than a car that wouldn't (1.8t). I have my whole life, lol. so, i think i'm going with the VR6.

I'm gunna turbo it first (that includes turbo timer, boost controler, and better intercooler), then i'm doing suspension and intake, then stablizers, sways, then exhaust, then pullys, furl regulator, and some other small things.

THNX for thge help guys, i couldn't have done it without ya :P


(I am gunna sell my car, so i'll have money to buy the turbo kit and stuff.)

[OPAKRACING]

for all those peeps who thought it couldn't be dun...


http://www.dub-nation.com/show/hpamotorsports/

[slowEJ6]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
I'm gunna turbo it first (that includes turbo timer, boost controler, and better intercooler), then i'm doing suspension and intake, then stablizers, sways, then exhaust, then pullys, furl regulator, and some other small things.
so youre going to put a turbo on it and run with no filter because you have to wait?
you are going to run a restrictive stock exhaust with a turbo?
you are going to add the turbo and not do any fuel mods?

i see.... :crazy:

[Addict]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
No, my parents aren't paying for the mods.

and i'm kinda in it to wait, ya know, i'd rather have a fast car, that would take some more time to fix up(VR6), than a car that wouldn't (1.8t). I have my whole life, lol. so, i think i'm going with the VR6.

I'm gunna turbo it first (that includes turbo timer, boost controler, and better intercooler), then i'm doing suspension and intake, then stablizers, sways, then exhaust, then pullys, furl regulator, and some other small things.

THNX for thge help guys, i couldn't have done it without ya :P


(I am gunna sell my car, so i'll have money to buy the turbo kit and stuff.)

Well good luck in whatever you choose. And its not that the twin turbo couldn't be done. ;)

[slowEJ6]

yeah good luck man....i want pics of the brok....i mean, modded VR6 :yes:

[OPAKRACING]

slow ej6, why don't you post a link to the site, where you get all this fricken info about what you have to do, when you put a turbo on your car? i mean, i went to google, and i didn't find a site that talks about the OTHER things you needa do to your car when you put a turbo on it.

[slowEJ6]

research my friend, you dont get everything you need from one single site. different cars need different mods, not to mention tuning. :cigar:

[OPAKRACING]

what kind of exhaust and fuel mods would you recommend?

[ShEaNy]

look into the turbo section to read about this...im sure they can help u there better...also read old posts....:yes: