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Weapon
08-31-2002, 11:11 PM
just wondering what kind of car u got and whats the current HP it is at ;) maybe mods you've done to it too :crazy:

94_AcCoRd_EX
08-31-2002, 11:24 PM
Hmm... 94 accord ex. 145 hp to the crank stock + aem cai + aem pulleys + denso iridiums (:D) = not much to the wheels :D

ChrisCantSkate
08-31-2002, 11:28 PM
stock 190hp to the crank... intake headers exaust, act clutch, aem cam gears, b&m fpr, vafc, msd6a, blaster 2 coil, bigger radiator(helps cooling), no cat, secondary intake runners opened full time, timing advanced

ebpda9
08-31-2002, 11:51 PM
stock 125 to the crank. god know how much at the wheels

Addict
09-01-2002, 12:01 AM
Stock 160hp at the crank.
AEM CAI
MSD 6AL
MSD Blaster3 Coil
MSD Pro-Cap Distributor cap with Crane rotor
Flowmaster American Thunder Exhaust
NGK Plug Wires
H&R OE Sport Springs
KONI Yellows Struts
DC Sports front upper strut bar & rear lower tie bar
17" Motegi MR7 w/ 205/40 Capitol Negotiator tires
CP Sport short throw shifter
Neuspeed shift bushings
AEM Brake pads

If you go by the BS HP calculators on the web I'd have 135hp......
Yeah, that's not right...:o

mt.biker
09-01-2002, 01:15 AM
sporting a massive 210hp and 225tq

richmclaren
09-01-2002, 01:30 AM
Stock 140 hp at the crank

No mods to make it faster as it is an automatic. ;(

Neuspeed springs and bolt hole cover
Tokico shocks
carbon fiber hood
camber kit
17" Racing Hart Evo CP-8 (with falkens, but will be getting nittos or pirellis)
altezzas and clear front bumper/corner lenses
indiglo gauges
Bosch platinum plugs with NGK wires
DC Sports battery tie down
little bobbing head doll on dash (with the likeness of an old Japanese man - you gotta see it, it's cool. really.)
underbody neons (One of which was broken by my mom who incidentaly KNOWS she's NOT allowed to drive my car! grrr...)

Violent Apathy
09-01-2002, 02:19 AM
Yay 130 Horsepowa' at da damn crank stock. Da Durango had 235.

Weapon
09-01-2002, 02:50 AM
what is the formula for working out torque? ;) better yet what is torque :crazy: . Also anyone else know the formula for working out the HP at the wheel? :rolleyes: :bow:

94_AcCoRd_EX
09-01-2002, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Weapon
what is the formula for working out torque? ;) better yet what is torque :crazy: . Also anyone else know the formula for working out the HP at the wheel? :rolleyes: :bow:

Torque is a force the produces rotation to keep it simple. It can be measured by the product of the force and the perpendicular distance from the LOA.

HP at the wheels depends on the amount of loss experienced in a particular drivetrain. It will vary car to car.

ChrisCantSkate
09-01-2002, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by 4thGenlude
stock 190hp to the crank... intake headers exaust, act clutch, aem cam gears, b&m fpr, vafc, msd6a, blaster 2 coil, bigger radiator(helps cooling), no cat, secondary intake runners opened full time, timing advanced
since other people listed other mods besides performance ones...

racing hart cp-35's
carbon fiber hood
wing west rs front lip
ground control coilovers
kyb adjustable agx shocks
neuspeed front sturt tie bar
rear polished sturt tower bar
camber kit
greddy radiator cap
short shifter custom made
dc sports replica shoft thorw adapter
autometer fuel pressure gauge
autometer air/fuel ratio gauge
autometer a-pillar duel pod

oh..

heh forgot about this one...

15lb NOS bottle
NOS single fogger dry kit
ZEX nitrous gauge
ZEX bottle warmer
75 shot tip

mt.biker
09-01-2002, 02:16 PM
torque over here in North America is messured in pound feet and thats at a one foot radius how many pounds of force is produced. the one foot gives it leverage i think. In europe its messured in newton meters if i'm not mistaken. Torque gives you that kick back when you floor it from a stand still and hp is what gets you moving on the highway. More tq you have the more likely your gonna spin your tires.

am i wrong here? can someone back me up here?

wet weather trick... to see where your power bands really are take of in first gear from a stop slowly adding more and more gas until the wheel brake lose the first time (for me its around 2500rpm) then reduce gas to stop spinning and start bringing the rpms up again... once you get above the rpms the wheels spun at try adding more gas, next time the wheels brake lose should be your hp power band. For me its around 4600rpm. let me know what you guys get.. now ofcourse i can spin all the way to red buttheres really no point in that.

ChrisCantSkate
09-01-2002, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Weapon
what is the formula for working out torque? ;) better yet what is torque :crazy: . Also anyone else know the formula for working out the HP at the wheel? :rolleyes: :bow:

actualy hp is a dirived number.. tq is the real power:

HP= (tq*rpm)/5252

if you notice on EVERY dyno, a engine produces the same hp and tq at 5252rpms.

Weapon
09-02-2002, 07:07 AM
is there really much difference between an auto and manual car besides the gear stick? ;) like do u get "that" much more hp with manual? :bow:

mt.biker
09-02-2002, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by 4thGenlude


actualy hp is a dirived number.. tq is the real power:

HP= (tq*rpm)/5252

if you notice on EVERY dyno, a engine produces the same hp and tq at 5252rpms.

thats cool and all but what number am i to put in for rpm?

ChrisCantSkate
09-02-2002, 09:33 AM
whatever rpm your at. lets say your making 200ft/lbs@ 2000 rpms

(200*2000)/5252 = 76hp

Spazum888
09-02-2002, 10:12 AM
when i had my 93 civic hb... i sware i had less then 90 hp... i would get ready to do a burn out.... i would lift up the e-break... put in the clutch... shift to first gear... rev the shit out of the motor.... and just dump the clutch... skerrrrrrrt.... (on 13's :D ) and i would have to let in the clutch again or i would stall it... i didnt have that much power to keep the wheels spining... it was pretty imbarssing... :rolleyes:

ChrisCantSkate
09-02-2002, 10:20 AM
actualy i thik its 93hp

Spazum888
09-02-2002, 10:24 AM
it still wasnt enough to do decent burn-out.....

ShEaNy
09-02-2002, 01:57 PM
umm i think i have roughly 155 horse...havent dynoed it yet...honda....are u sure u only have that much horse...i swear i read at this website the accords...(exr) at least as 145 stock...im not sure about ur Lx ..i think it is..shouldnt be Much difference...?

Wren57
09-02-2002, 07:41 PM
Stock:
220 Horsepower
222 Torque

Mods:
Custom K&N "Ram Air" Intake
2.5" Piping with Magnaflow Muffler
16" Motegi MR7s wrapped with Potenza re950s

Guessing around 245hp, 245tq. The AWD system makes this oh so much sweeter!:yes:

mt.biker
09-02-2002, 09:01 PM
that formula doesnt work dude.. if my engine puts out 225ft/lbs@2800 rpm and 210hp 5200 rpm

then it should be

(225*2800)5252=119 and thats bs!

ebpda9
09-02-2002, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by mt.biker
that formula doesnt work dude.. if my engine puts out 225ft/lbs@2800 rpm and 210hp 5200 rpm

then it should be

(225*2800)5252=119 and thats bs!

no dude you have that much hp at 2800rpm. you have a different torque # at 5800rpm

mt.biker
09-02-2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by hondaman-iac


no dude you have that much hp at 2800rpm. you have a different torque # at 5800rpm

then do i have more tq @a higher rpm?

whats the point of this forumal?

ebpda9
09-02-2002, 09:21 PM
at 5800rpm you should have 190ft/lbs of tq

XdiscontensionX
09-03-2002, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by Weapon
is there really much difference between an auto and manual car besides the gear stick? ;) like do u get "that" much more hp with manual? :bow:

you can't hit your max with an auto b/c it's located at such a high rpm. my car, for instance, has a stock max of 135hp @ 5050 RPM and 153 ft/lb of torque @ 3750 RPM. most autos shift somewhere around 3000rpm.

mt.biker
09-03-2002, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by XdiscontensionX


you can't hit your max with an auto b/c it's located at such a high rpm. my car, for instance, has a stock max of 135hp @ 5050 RPM and 153 ft/lb of torque @ 3750 RPM. most autos shift somewhere around 3000rpm.
i think it all depends on how to drive your car dude, mine shifts anywhere i tell it too. Just gotta learn who to tell her gentally :) its all about how fast you put the gas down and if you hold i there, i can get my car to shift at any rpm with my auto.. maybe its just me though.:cool:
btw my tranny as Grade Logic Control wtf is that?

Racing Rice
09-03-2002, 09:16 AM
I drive a civic. It has hamster power not horse power.;)

ChrisCantSkate
09-03-2002, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by mt.biker
that formula doesnt work dude.. if my engine puts out 225ft/lbs@2800 rpm and 210hp 5200 rpm

then it should be

(225*2800)5252=119 and thats bs!
the formula is for findong how much power you have at that rpm. your only making 119hp at 2800rpms. turst me, its the way they figure out HP. cause hp is just a calculated number anyways.

mt.biker
09-03-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by 4thGenlude

the formula is for findong how much power you have at that rpm. your only making 119hp at 2800rpms. turst me, its the way they figure out HP. cause hp is just a calculated number anyways.

ok so if @ 5200rpms i'm putting out 190ft/lbs tq does that mean only 188hp is hitting the wheels? but my engine is rated @210hp would someone walk me through this?

can someone confirm this?

ChrisCantSkate
09-03-2002, 03:17 PM
nah its (tq*5200)/5252=210hp so you godda solve for tq. its.... 212.1@5200rpms

Niacin
09-03-2002, 03:53 PM
Ditto on 4thGenLude. HP sells cars, torque wins races.

http://www.revsearch.com/dynamometer/comments.html

As for me, >400hp. And the dude who said autos make power higher up, you need to pass to the left.

Max

ChrisCantSkate
09-03-2002, 06:59 PM
yup. ive read something very simalar to that, but it was more in a explanation, than a question and answer. that one was easyer to understand. a flat, hardly changing curve is MUCH better than a high spike on either end, then tappering off.

richmclaren
09-03-2002, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Racing Rice
I drive a civic. It has hamster power not horse power.;)

Ha ha! :D That's how I feel about MY car most of the time.

Maxvla
09-04-2002, 01:27 AM
i have 400hp. my rice stickers say i do. ;) j/k

Zybach
09-06-2002, 08:52 AM
My scooter has .5 hp! And my RC car has a whooping 1/10 of a hp!! No actually I think its more like 102hp or something.:rolleyes: