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Imports4eva
08-26-2002, 08:32 PM
Why do you buy a slow car and add expensive stuff to it and it is still slow when you can buy a car that is already halfway fast (14.7 or under) 300 zx Twin Turbo (in excellent condition) which is at least 2000 less than the 02 Civic EX. It is also faster and looks better even when you put turbo's on your civic and leave the 300 stock. Mustang's are even better example they can run 13.9's (02 GT)on street tires straight from the factory yet it takes a civic at least a good $10,000 to even get there.

I would like to see replies to enlighten me of your trendy car dream world:bandit:
ebpda9
08-26-2002, 09:48 PM
simply i don't like mustangs. and if u ask me i drive more of them everyday that civics and accords
TonitrusEN
08-26-2002, 10:10 PM
I wouldnt drive a ford if you gave me the damn thing...

And why would i want to fit the trend that 45 year old balding men fit into.. buying fast sports cars.. EVERYTHING is a trend.. I know my car isnt fast, and wont be... so im buying what i think looks nice... that and i dont feel like paying 600 bucks a month in car insurance..
Imports4eva
08-26-2002, 10:13 PM
Im sorry but next time anybody replies try to make sense
Imports4eva
08-26-2002, 10:21 PM
you make a good TOnitrusEN but i would rather drive a car that bald 45 year old men drive than a car that 45 year old balding women drive.
But if you set them up right they do look clean sometimes.

Thanks for reply

:bandit:
Imports4eva
08-26-2002, 10:22 PM
point* after good in first sentence
Addict
08-26-2002, 10:35 PM
People like what they like. Not everyone likes domestics and the same goes for imports. You're obviously trying to stir things up a bit with your recent posts. That's not how things are done here.

Its more like constructing your own vehicle. I like work on my car. It gives me a sense of pride. Who cares if you like my car or can't see justification in working on it. Its not your ride.

As far as the 02 GTs go, I sure as hell hope they hit 13's. They are quick, but I've not seen a stock 02 GT hit that low. Low 14's, but not 13's. At least not on stock tires and completely stock car. But that car isn't even in the same league as Civics. Civics are meant to be econoboxes from the factory. Stangs are meant to be muscle cars.
NooNz
08-26-2002, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by TonitrusEN
I wouldnt drive a ford if you gave me the damn thing...

And why would i want to fit the trend that 45 year old balding men fit into.. buying fast sports cars.. EVERYTHING is a trend.. I know my car isnt fast, and wont be... so im buying what i think looks nice... that and i dont feel like paying 600 bucks a month in car insurance..

so your sayin that if a Ford Focus Cosworth or a Ford Escort Cosworth or even the WRC Ford Focus was handed to you, that you wouldn't drive it?....cuz i would........

those are pretty much the only Fords i'll be driving.....
ebpda9
08-26-2002, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by NooNz


so your sayin that if a Ford Focus Cosworth or a Ford Escort Cosworth or even the WRC Ford Focus was handed to you, that you wouldn't drive it?....cuz i would........

those are pretty much the only Fords i'll be driving.....

the focus cosworth and the escort cosworth are the street versions of the WRC car. and i really did not like the escort cosworth. i haven't gotten to the focus cosworth yet
NooNz
08-27-2002, 01:54 AM
itz an awd wit bout 300hp....

well after watchin getaway in stockholm 2 with the supra and the escort....phew...just blown away!
BlackDeuceCoupe
08-27-2002, 05:11 AM
Moving to 'pissing contest' area... :rolleyes:
Racing Rice
08-27-2002, 07:28 AM
Hmm, lets see.. In the perfect world I would own a 03 Cobra, but since this isnt the perfect world Im stuck with what I have. Id love to have a TT 300Z. Ive looked into buying them, but I cant see spending $10K on a RWD car with over a 100K miles that I wouldnt want to or be able to drive year round because of the snow. :no: The same goes with a Supra. All these cars would be great but for most people they just are suitable for what a lot of people need them to do.

Plus you get into insurance and fuel comsumption. I drive my car daily 40+ miles. Im getting about 30-35 mpg in my EX, which means I only have to fill up about every week and a half to two weeks. Plus it only cost about 12$ to fill up, and insurance is ass cheap.

Civics arent meant to be hardcore race cars right out of the box. But they are cheap, and do have a little bit of potential. Granted it will probably cost you more in the long run to have a 12 second car, but thats the persons problem who is spending the money not yours. If you dont like civics. Good dont drive one. If you do then do.

I could probably go on and on, but I dont feel like wasting anymore time on this. Hopefully you are intelligent enough to see where people are coming from whether you like it or not.:rolleyes:
mt.biker
08-27-2002, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Imports4eva
Why do you buy a slow car and add expensive stuff to it and it is still slow when you can buy a car that is already halfway fast (14.7 or under) 300 zx Twin Turbo (in excellent condition) which is at least 2000 less than the 02 Civic EX. It is also faster and looks better even when you put turbo's on your civic and leave the 300 stock. Mustang's are even better example they can run 13.9's (02 GT)on street tires straight from the factory yet it takes a civic at least a good $10,000 to even get there.

I would like to see replies to enlighten me of your trendy car dream world:bandit:

amen to that!
incubus86
08-27-2002, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by Imports4eva
Why do you buy a slow car and add expensive stuff to it and it is still slow when you can buy a car that is already halfway fast (14.7 or under) 300 zx Twin Turbo (in excellent condition) which is at least 2000 less than the 02 Civic EX. It is also faster and looks better even when you put turbo's on your civic and leave the 300 stock. Mustang's are even better example they can run 13.9's (02 GT)on street tires straight from the factory yet it takes a civic at least a good $10,000 to even get there.

I would like to see replies to enlighten me of your trendy car dream world:bandit:


In your opinion, it looks better. Many other people may not agree with you. I like the way my civic looks. It is as stock as it can be. I'm not all about making it a race car. It goes fast enough as it is. I'm not concerned with running low 13-14's. I am concerned with the 35 mpg i get.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
TonitrusEN
08-27-2002, 10:07 AM
And no, i wouldnt drive any of those cars... why? Because the ford escort looks like soemone smashed up a crappy car into a compact thing and the focus looks like crap... why do i need to go so fast? Ive damn near been arrested for street racing (long story, but i wasnt even racing) and i already pay 220 bucks for insurance (CLEAN DRIVING RECORD).. I want my car to look good.. maybe when i turn 25 and my insurance is as low as can be ill look into buying a nicer, faster car... but for right now my HB is fine.. and i probably wont ever sell it.. as for these cars

I would get more pride out of getting a car to the 13's with hard work than with money... You can buy anything with money, but isn't it better to do it yourself?
ChrisCantSkate
08-27-2002, 10:23 AM
hodas are more reliable than most other cars unless you go to spend $$$. and the way i see it when we're young, and insurance is high, we need cars that arnt gonna rape us on insurance and will hold together. when i get a little older and get a job, maybe i'll still have a honda as a every day, but i will get a weekend car that will be fast, not daily driven, not good on gas, and high on insurance. right now i have to settle for a preldue that does mid-14's with bolt ons. i deffinitaly see what your saying, buy a faster car. hondas have potential, but cost alot more. i know supras, rx7's camaros, mustangs, 300zx's and all the higher hp rwd sports cars are faster, with more potential, but i cant realisticaly afford one right now.
Kyle
08-27-2002, 10:38 AM
It's pretty damn hard to find a twin turbo 300zx 90's+ for under 14k...
TonitrusEN
08-27-2002, 10:42 AM
a 93 TT ZX runs abotu 20k on the west coast
Kyle
08-27-2002, 10:49 AM
yup...you can't find a good one, for cheap.
TonitrusEN
08-27-2002, 10:55 AM
Yep, i was going to buy one, but i got laid off from my old job... bleh...
quik
08-27-2002, 10:58 AM
I hate these stupid threads. Why do you like to do the things you do? Why? CAUSE I WANT TO. Don't ask my why, cause when I explain it to you, your just gonna :rolleyes: and ask another stupid question. So, go away and stop ruining my life!

Quik
TonitrusEN
08-27-2002, 11:00 AM
Easy killer Easy.... ATTACK KILLER ATTACK KILL!!!! GO FOR THE EYES BOO
Imports4eva
08-27-2002, 12:42 PM
My friend has a 300zx TT for sell here it is $10,500
has 102K miles (which is low for a 90) turbo timer, B&B Exhaust, Cold air intake, $2,000 audio system w/ custom amp rack, TSW Rims 17" , Smoke Gray T-Top
TonitrusEN
08-27-2002, 12:46 PM
a 300ZX TT shouldnt have that many miles on it... most people thatb uy them DONT use them for daily drivers... i wouldnt...
Racing Rice
08-27-2002, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by TonitrusEN
a 300ZX TT shouldnt have that many miles on it... most people thatb uy them DONT use them for daily drivers... i wouldnt...

Shoot.. I see them with 100K miles all the time for about $10K in the autotrader.
spoogenet
08-27-2002, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Imports4eva
Blah blah blah

Why do you eat AppleJacks when they don't even taste like apples?

Blah blah blah

I would like to see replies to enlighten me of your trendy car dream world:bandit:

We eat what we like.

There are so many things that go into why someone buys a car. Style, initial cost, TOC, durability, performance, individual needs/wants, etc. I like my car for a variety of reasons, I don't like many cars for a variety of reasons.....

I'm not too partial to Fords, but a GT40 or GT90 would do me just fine.....if I could afford them. I wouldn't buy one, but I'd drive it if given to me.

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mt.biker
08-27-2002, 12:57 PM
theres two schools of thought thought
1- if you own a nice car and drive alot why wouldnt' you drive it everywhere
2- nice cars only need a bit of driving so they stay nice

i'm of catagory 2 my car doesn't have many miles on it
ChrisCantSkate
08-27-2002, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Imports4eva
My friend has a 300zx TT for sell here it is $10,500
has 102K miles (which is low for a 90) turbo timer, B&B Exhaust, Cold air intake, $2,000 audio system w/ custom amp rack, TSW Rims 17" , Smoke Gray T-Top
wow, where the turbos rebuilt or replaced any time recently? cause the turbos are only good for about 80-90k so at 100k at least shows the car was probobly taken care of. sounds like he has a nice car... whys he selling it?
Imports4eva
08-28-2002, 05:23 PM
He has had all hoses replaced and the turbotimer is there to prolong the life of the turbos he doesnt gun it alot either and uses stock boost 9.5 psi
Violent Apathy
08-29-2002, 12:51 AM
Oh god, the new Cobra SVT-Rs that will be coming out in a year or two...*drool* over 500hp
monkut
09-02-2002, 09:08 PM
just to add another opinion: i dont care so much about how my car looks, as long as its simple and not messy. my goal is speed. the reasons i drive an accord rather than a mustang or something else are: i love the fact that no one expects an accord to be fast and if i make one fast, ive really accomplished something. also insurance for a v8 is so much more than for my accord. and although it is not a major concern of mine, it is nice that my car gets about 28 miles/gallon.
yes, a lot of import dudes put money into their weak engines and get nothing out of it. as you should know by now not all of us are like this and i can't understand the reasoning behind why people do this either.
my accord, after the h22 swap and turbo (glee) and of course i/h/e will easily be 300hp at the crank. i dont know if you think all people who have an interest in imports are the same, but trust me we're not. so dont group us together. let them do their thing and we'll do ours.