pc133 running at 100 ??

[Accord Man]

I used to roll with 128m of pc133 sdram..
Last week I got myself a stick of pc133 256m sdram
Now I run both (256 in 1st slot, and 128 in 2nd.)

For some reason, when I check the speed of my ram (with Sisoft Sandra), it says 100.

both sticks are pc 133 (it says CL3 upto 133, for sticks).. whatever that means..

So can anyone help me?

Where/how can I make it all run at 133 ??

Here's my setup
Abit KT7
Duron 800
RIVA TNT 2 32MEG VIDEO CARD
SBLIVE SOUND CARD


thanks,
JP

[mt.biker]

have you been messing around in your bios? was your machine 133 before you started having these ram issues?

if one piece of ram is really 100 and they sold you it saying it was 133 (not likely but possible) then both your sticks would go down to 100.

[94_AcCoRd_EX]

Were you running @ 133 before you installed the new ram?

[Accord Man]

biker.. all that is ok..

trev: nope, was always at 100..

I think I'm supposed to overclock the FSB, to that much.. I hate the word overclock.. :paranoid:



I found this insane FAQ, which is about my mobo..
http://www.viahardware.com/faq/kt7/kt7faq.htm

after reading all this, I should be ok..
;)

[94_AcCoRd_EX]

If it was always @ 100, then I'm assuming that's what your FSB was set to. Its no big deal, PC133 can run @ PC100 speeds with no problem- that's what I did on my old computer.

You can overclock your computer, but its not necessary.

[Accord Man]

if my clock speed is set at 133, wont things happen faster?!

I'll maybe push my 800mhz processor a little, while I'm at it.. Something safe, lets say 900-950..

[94_AcCoRd_EX]

Originally posted by Accord Man
if my clock speed is set at 133, wont things happen faster?!

I'll maybe push my 800mhz processor a little, while I'm at it.. Something safe, lets say 900-950..

Yeah, increasing your FSB will speed things up quite a bit. I was just saying that it wasn't necessary if you weren't comfortable OC'ing.:bandit:

[Addict]

Originally posted by Accord Man
if my clock speed is set at 133, wont things happen faster?!

I'll maybe push my 800mhz processor a little, while I'm at it.. Something safe, lets say 900-950..

Better get a REAL good fan. AMD chips have the worst thermal protection. In fact I don't even think you can call it "protection". They just flame out. Literally.

I'll try to find the video showing a P3 & AMD Athlon......

[spoogenet]

Good heatsink/fan is going to be essential if you want to overclock. Also make sure that you don't overclock the peripheral busses too much, like AGP and PCI. Going 100 -> 133 probably won't be too much of a problem, but don't be surprised if you run into stability issues.

If you're running PC133 @ 100 then you can probably bump the CL to 2 rather than 3. If you run into stability problems, though, push it back down to 3. I'm not sure if you'll notice much of a gain running with CL2 rather than CL3, but every little bit helps. :)

b

[Accord Man]

alrighty, thanks for the advice guys!!

[Addict]

Here's the video
VIDEO (http://www12.tomshardware.com/images/THG_CPU_Cooling.zip)
Its in Divx format. You can get teh Divx codec at www.divx.com
And here's the main article.....
ARTICLE (http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q3/010917/index.html)

[Accord Man]

Originally posted by Civic_Addict
Here's the video
VIDEO (http://www12.tomshardware.com/images/THG_CPU_Cooling.zip)
Its in Divx format. You can get teh Divx codec at www.divx.com
And here's the main article.....
ARTICLE (http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q3/010917/index.html)

wow, that was very interestin video.. I know AMD runs hot, but damn, 340°C hotter.. thats something else..

LOL, I doubt I'll be boosting anything except my car.

;)

[Addict]

Its just funny how AMD chips just burn away while the Intel chips shut down.
The worst part is that AMD has no plans to correct it.

[Accord Man]

Originally posted by Civic_Addict
Its just funny how AMD chips just burn away while the Intel chips shut down.
The worst part is that AMD has no plans to correct it.

the thing is that the pentium chips have cicuitry to slow down the processor so that it doesnt burn.. So, it cant burn!



But I'm reading all these Duron overclocking articles, and many of them are running their 800s at 1000-1200, with oem cooling device..


So I may try, to up the speed a little..

What should I watch out for, besides the temp of the processor (and instability..) ?

[Addict]

When you overclock the processor, you overclock everything in the system. Video cards, network cards, RAM, etc. Network cards are especially sensitive.

Overclocking can be fatal.

Get Motherboard Monitor (http://mbm.livewiredev.com/) so you can monitor the temps & fan speeds from your desktop. It can even upload the temps to an FTP or website.

[spoogenet]

Originally posted by Civic_Addict
When you overclock the processor, you overclock everything in the system. Video cards, network cards, RAM, etc. Network cards are especially sensitive.

Overclocking can be fatal.

Get Motherboard Monitor (http://mbm.livewiredev.com/) so you can monitor the temps & fan speeds from your desktop. It can even upload the temps to an FTP or website.

What you overclock depends on your MB. Mine, for example, lets me control the PCI and AGP busses as ratios of the FSB clock rate. So to overclock my processor I increased the FSB speed, I can't recall if I underclocked all my busses or only some of them, but the PCI and AGP busses aren't both overclocked, I know that for sure.

MB Monitor will only do you much good if your MB has the right thermal sensors on it. I've been out of the loop for a little while so I'm not sure how standard issue it is these days. And fan speeds rely on the fan having a tach, which some do, some don't.

If you overclock too much and don't cool it well enough you can get EM problems, but people tend to get new processors before EM really starts to kill you.

b

[Addict]

Originally posted by spoogenet


What you overclock depends on your MB. Mine, for example, lets me control the PCI and AGP busses as ratios of the FSB clock rate. So to overclock my processor I increased the FSB speed, I can't recall if I underclocked all my busses or only some of them, but the PCI and AGP busses aren't both overclocked, I know that for sure.

MB Monitor will only do you much good if your MB has the right thermal sensors on it. I've been out of the loop for a little while so I'm not sure how standard issue it is these days. And fan speeds rely on the fan having a tach, which some do, some don't.

If you overclock too much and don't cool it well enough you can get EM problems, but people tend to get new processors before EM really starts to kill you.

b
What motherboard do you have? Most will let you overclock the processor by adjusting the FSB which will in turn overclock the other components though you usually have a divider (1/4, 1/3).

[Accord Man]

umm, if I can interrupt..

I believe it depends on the bios..


And if you boost FSB, so you'Re basically OC all components, there is a function to reduce the clock speed for each of the components, so that they may function at a proper speed..

[Addict]

Originally posted by Accord Man
And if you boost FSB, so you'Re basically OC all components, there is a function to reduce the clock speed for each of the components, so that they may function at a proper speed..
On what board? You can reduce somewhat (the divider), but they're still overclocked.

[Accord Man]

on most boards and bios.. just not sure what the function is called..

its the one where you have -33mhz... as an option.

[spoogenet]

I've got an Abit BM6 running a Celery 400@500.

The PCI and AGP busses (not sure about ISA) are adjustable as a ratio of the FSB through the BIOS. I believe 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, and 1/4 are my options.

I run the FSB @ 83 MHz vs. the 66 MHz default. PCI is spec'd @ 33 MHz, but I run it at 1/3 of 83 which is a little less than 28 MHz, thus it is underclocked. I can't recall AGP spec, is it 66? I think I may run AGP at 3/4, so 62 MHz. ISA is spec'd at 16 MHz, dunno what that's running.

What you can adjust depends on your MB and the BIOS used. Most manufacturers will put a BIOS that supports whatever the MB is capable of, however it really depends on both hardware and software to function. And this is, of course, assuming you've got a normal consumer board, not an OEM board that system manufacturers like Dell use.

b

[Addict]

Originally posted by spoogenet
I've got an Abit BM6 running a Celery 400@500.

The PCI and AGP busses (not sure about ISA) are adjustable as a ratio of the FSB through the BIOS. I believe 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, and 1/4 are my options.

I run the FSB @ 83 MHz vs. the 66 MHz default. PCI is spec'd @ 33 MHz, but I run it at 1/3 of 83 which is a little less than 28 MHz, thus it is underclocked. I can't recall AGP spec, is it 66? I think I may run AGP at 3/4, so 62 MHz. ISA is spec'd at 16 MHz, dunno what that's running.

What you can adjust depends on your MB and the BIOS used. Most manufacturers will put a BIOS that supports whatever the MB is capable of, however it really depends on both hardware and software to function. And this is, of course, assuming you've got a normal consumer board, not an OEM board that system manufacturers like Dell use.

b
Ok. We're on the same page then. That's what I was referring to.

[Accord Man]

running on an ABIT KT7..