Proxies..

[Accord Man]

Do you use one?

I was told that its a very good idea to run one..

What are the Pros and Cons..

Which ones are best?


And what is level1, level2, level3, level4..
Is it how anonymous it is? And does a LOWER number mean more anonymity??


thanks,
JP

[mt.biker]

dude your in canada, do anything you feel like. The americans can't touch

"cant touch this" *da nana* "can't touch this"

[Accord Man]

are you sure they cant touch us??

I mean, if we were to be spoted at the wrong place at the wrong time.. who knows what could happen..

[mt.biker]

Originally posted by Accord Man
are you sure they cant touch us??

I mean, if we were to be spoted at the wrong place at the wrong time.. who knows what could happen..

aslong as your doing this from within canada the law protect you :)

[Accord Man]

Originally posted by mt.biker


aslong as your doing this from within canada the law protect you :)


very cool..

you wouldnt happen to know what exactly??

[Surfr]

What sort of proxies ?

I run a squid cache/proxy for http,https,ftp
everything else I tunnel through an ssh tunnel.

squid: http://www.squid-cache.org/
ssh: http://www.openssh.org/

you can run these locally or run them elsewhere on your network.

As for the anonymity, well your originating IP will be masqueraded by the proxy IP but obviously the proxy will still be on your local network or indeed right on your workstation.

As for the level numbers.. I have never come across them in my life, can you tell me where you saw them ?

An alternative to a proxy is NAT (Name Address Translation) also known as IP Masquerading. This allows 1 or many machines to use 1 network connection on another machine, using IP forwarding on the masqerading box.

NAT HOWTO: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/

hope that helps some. Of course, if you are using Windows then this information will be fairly useless, unless you use a servre running somthing like Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, MacOS X, Solaris then thats fine :)

[Addict]

I wouldn't worry about it unless you run a network(more so a business). They're fairly useless for just one system.

And they won't help you be anonymous unless you're referring to one of the online sites that makes you anonymous while browsing.

Just get a decent firewall and you'll be set....

[mt.biker]

Originally posted by Accord Man



very cool..

you wouldnt happen to know what exactly??

right now the law stops american law enforcment from coming across the boarder and picking you up for hacking a site in the USA. I'm sure the laws will change, but why are you so worried?

[Accord Man]

I use a software called accessdiver.. its for testing generla internet security (you can test all types of things).. and gives you the security level of the proxy.

Right now, I'm behind a Linksys Router (with NAT), and I'm running ZA Pro on my machine..

The only reason I wanted to use a proxy is so that my IP cannot be logged. Not becaus I will be hacking a site or anything like that.. But simply becaus, some of the file sharing software I use, can sometimes f'up and it'll ban your Ip for no good reason. So this way, I just need to hop on another proxy and pretend nothing happened.

mt.biker, what I asked you repeatedly was just to make sure of the infromation you were giving me.. You know for general knowledge.

[mt.biker]

Originally posted by Accord Man
I use a software called accessdiver.. its for testing generla internet security (you can test all types of things).. and gives you the security level of the proxy.

Right now, I'm behind a Linksys Router (with NAT), and I'm running ZA Pro on my machine..

The only reason I wanted to use a proxy is so that my IP cannot be logged. Not becaus I will be hacking a site or anything like that.. But simply becaus, some of the file sharing software I use, can sometimes f'up and it'll ban your Ip for no good reason. So this way, I just need to hop on another proxy and pretend nothing happened.

mt.biker, what I asked you repeatedly was just to make sure of the infromation you were giving me.. You know for general knowledge.

in OAC law last year we talked about this alot, but because that was durring school the actual law has slipt my mind, i will see if i can find where it is.

[Surfr]

Originally posted by Accord Man

The only reason I wanted to use a proxy is so that my IP cannot be logged. Not becaus I will be hacking a site or anything like that.. But simply becaus, some of the file sharing software I use, can sometimes f'up and it'll ban your Ip for no good reason. So this way, I just need to hop on another proxy and pretend nothing happened.


Ah I see, well are you on a static IP address then or DHCP from your ISP?

If you are (and most ISPs are) on DHCP, you can always get a new poll the dhcp server for a new lease (and thus, a new IP address unless your ISP is dynamically assigning static IPs). I know this is annoying, but if it helps you out in the meantime until a better sollution can be found.. It can't be tha bad :)

[incubus86]

Since he is behind a router, i'm guessing he isn't getting an IP from DHCP. I'm assuming static IP with cable or dsl connection.

[ebpda9]

i don't know how his is setup, but on mine the router gets an ip from my ISP, then all the computers on the network are getting a different ip from the router (whatever i want them to be). i thionk a proxy will have to be installed on the router rather than on a local machine.

[Surfr]

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
i don't know how his is setup, but on mine the router gets an ip from my ISP, then all the computers on the network are getting a different ip from the router (whatever i want them to be). i thionk a proxy will have to be installed on the router rather than on a local machine.

Not really. Let me try and explain.

you could install a proxy on any of your machines that are behind the router. as long as all machines have the router set as the gateway, and you configure your browser to use the machine on your network for http,https,ftp,gopher etc.

A proxys job is to act as an intermediate between 2 places on a network.

A routers job is to route traffic from one subnet of machines to another network. In most of your cases with DSL/cable modems, the router is routing from your local network at home (may only be 1 machine) onto your ISPs network. You could use NAT instead of a router. NAT as outlined above performs the same task, but instead uses a private IP address range (10.0.0.0-10.255.255.255, 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255, and er theres another one at 192.somthing I think (look it up if interested)).

In a NAT setup, machines in the realworld can not see machines that are being hidden behind a masquerade box directly. With a router, you can see these machines (if you so desired, and had a relaxed firewall).

to give you an idea I have the following setup at home:
http://www.nuclear-dawn.com/img/misc/megan.png

I use layla as my proxy machine. It also does NAT for all the machines in the server room and main caravan. however it can be seen from the outside world as it is routed (across the wireless link).

I don't think a forum is the best place to teach somthing like this. I fully recomend the links I posted on my last post for further reference. HTH

[Addict]

You run SPARC systems at home? I can tell you're not much for Microsoft eh?;)

[Surfr]

Originally posted by Civic_Addict
You run SPARC systems at home? I can tell you're not much for Microsoft eh?;)

I only use MS Stuff when I *have* to, otherwise I'd rather use an alternative. As and shen I do need to use MS, I'll use win 2K Pro. I haven't tried XP yet.

[Addict]

Originally posted by Surfr
I only use MS Stuff when I *have* to, otherwise I'd rather use an alternative. As and shen I do need to use MS, I'll use win 2K Pro. I haven't tried XP yet.
The Win2k series is all I'll use(Pro, Server & Advanced Server). I admit that XP is MUCH better than 95/98/ME, but its got to many security issues.