View Full Version : Will this fit??
ripthesystem
07-16-2002, 10:23 AM
I'm looking to buy a CatBack system for my Civic and I've decided upon the Apex'i World Sport. My question (before I buy) is will it fit properly on my ride?
I have a 95 Civic LX Auto 1.5L 4 door..
I was looking at the 104-KH01 Civic Coupe 92-00 EX / Si, DX 92-95
Would this fit my car?
Thanks!
ripthesystem
Aniliticalstud
07-16-2002, 12:50 PM
I'm not a 100% sure, but i dobt it.. I'm sure you can get some more piping/or cut some off to make it fit, but thats prob more hassle than it's worth... I don't know just know when i got mine i got the one made for my car so i knew it would fit ;)
ripthesystem
07-16-2002, 01:29 PM
does anyone know how i can tell for sure?
I can't seem to find any contact info for Apex'i. I asked the store I was going to buy it from and they said it would work fine- but I tend not to trust people who might say anything just to get me $$
thx
ripthesystem
Fatal070
07-17-2002, 12:34 AM
dude goto http://www.wholesalehyperformance.com great site if its there then its there but i know they do not make one for a 96 dx so. good luck
ripthesystem
07-17-2002, 09:04 AM
thanks for the link- pretty good prices on everything all around it seems.
However it also seems like it isn't going to fit my car :paranoid: so I guess I'll be looking for something comparable- suggestions?
Also in my quest for parts it seems that the AEM CAI for the 92-95 Civics is only listed as being for the DX, EX, Si ...
GRRRRRRRR!!!! Any reason this shouldn't work on my LX?
ripthesystem
Fatal070
07-17-2002, 12:40 PM
I know u can get a HKS System for your car but its more money you can also get a HKS Intake. The exhaust is a good product not sure about the intake. e-mail them and ask them why there is nuthing for the lx.
Hope this helps
Addict
07-17-2002, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by ripthesystem
thanks for the link- pretty good prices on everything all around it seems.
However it also seems like it isn't going to fit my car :paranoid: so I guess I'll be looking for something comparable- suggestions?
Also in my quest for parts it seems that the AEM CAI for the 92-95 Civics is only listed as being for the DX, EX, Si ...
GRRRRRRRR!!!! Any reason this shouldn't work on my LX?
ripthesystem
I believe the 4 doors require a longer version. I'm not 100% on that though.
ripthesystem
07-17-2002, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Civic_Addict
I believe the 4 doors require a longer version. I'm not 100% on that though.
longer version-- of the exhaust or the intake?
exhaust --> yes
intake? I don't know.
And I'll look into the HKS- thanks for the advice- I'm not familiar with them at all.
ripthesystem
seanjuan
07-17-2002, 01:44 PM
hey rip,
i have a 92 manual lx sedan
same thing except for the tranny
anyway, the way it works is that Honda was nice enough to make alot of there exhausts interchangable
i needed a new exhaust a while ago and went with a Thermal research and development Stealth
it's a nice system but doesn't fit any civic because they bent the mid section pipe too soon
i thought that it was because i had a sedan and that the exhaust needed to be longer
so i sold the whole catback system to my buddy that has a 96 coupe and took his old stock exhaust and put it on my car
the exhuast off a 96 coupe is the exact same as off of my 92 sedan with the exception of the catalytic converter
in other words, my exhaust with the cat hooked on was the same as his exhaust without a cat
this leads me to believe that if in exhaust fits any type of 5th gen civic it will fit yours with no problem
so i would try to find someone with that exhaust on any type of 5th gen civic and find out if there are any problems with it
sorry that took me so long to explain
later
Sean
ripthesystem
07-17-2002, 02:48 PM
so basically put(just to make sure I get this right- you're pretty sure that the exhaust for a 96 coupe (DX, EX- does it matter?) will fit the 95 LX just fine.. ?
I wish I could say that I knew someone with the exhaust- but I don't :no:
do you have an intake on your LX? if so what kind?
Thanks for the insight- if anyone else could shed some light on this train of thought I'd be grateful.
ripthesystem
seanjuan
07-17-2002, 04:32 PM
what i was trying to get across is that honda designed their cars so that they could mass produce one exhaust system that would fit all of the cars... obviously to save money
even though the coupe has a 2 or 3 inch shorter wheelbase than the sedan, the exhaust dimensions are identical
make sure though that you get an exhaust that is for a 92-95 civic though because it will have the correct flange to hook up to your catalytic converter
i can't garauntee that the apexi exhaust will fit any type of 5th gen civic however, just because the site says it fits doesn't mean anything
the thermal R&D site said the stealth cat-back would fit my car and it didn't
if you know someone that has a 5th gen coupe you should take a tape measure and get the dimensions for the exhaust piping and then compare it to the dimensions for your pipes
or just wait around in a parking lot till you see somebody pull up with one, as soon as they go inside jack up the car and take a couple measurements
or go to a dealer, tell them you are interested in a used one and ask them to put it up on a lift so you can check under the car for rust or something and make sure you have a tape measure
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as far as intakes go the LX is the same car as the DX, so if something is advertised as fiting a DX sedan, it will also work for an LX sedan
the main diff is that the LX has power windows, locks, AC, and a tach
i don't have an intake, but pretty much anything will work... just make sure you hook up all of the sensors again to the new intake piping
if you are still confused about any of this keep asking ?'s i'll be happy to keep chatting with you about it
i'd like to know how the WS exhaust is because i had wanted to get it originally
later
Sean
ripthesystem
07-18-2002, 10:07 AM
Sean-
Thanks mate! wow- you really answered a lot of questions for me there.. much appreciated- It's good to know that the CAI will fit on my car and it's also cool to see other LX's floating around. I was beginning to think I was the only one:eek:
Anyways you've given me a lot to think on and I'm looking forward to hanging out in parking lots with jack stands and tape measures just waiting for the unsuspecting grocery shopper :bandit: to come along.. Muuhhahah!!
I'm going to see if I can get the WS to fit on my ride since that's the exhaust I really want. If not then I'll have to start looking for some other exhausts and see if I can find comparable.. Don't worry though I'll probably bug you with more questions soon! LOL
thx again
ripthesystem
ripthesystem
07-18-2002, 01:12 PM
sean - YGPM
seanjuan
07-18-2002, 04:21 PM
greg
something got messed up this morning
i wrote a super long reply explaining alot of things but it dissapeared and i'm kinda pissed
it ended up the the thermal midsection pipe was rattling against the frame of my car and that was very annoying
i traded the exhaust to a friend who had a 96 civic coupe and he had the same problem and ended up paying an exhaust shop $125 to make a custom piece so that the thermal exhaust would fit
and i did check the part numbers that were stamp into the piping to make sure they were the right ones based on thermal's website
you said that you were looking at the apex WS and the thermal Stealth exhausts because they are supposed to be "quiter"
i can't comment on the apex system but the stealth exhaust is quite a bit louder than stock
i have a pretty nice stereo in my car and it can get very loud but no matter how loud it was i could always hear the exhaust
that was nice for shifting because i never had to look at the tach to see how many rpm i was at, i could just listen
i loved the sound of it when i was driving by myself
but as soon as i had a passenger i wished that i could push a button and make it as quite as a stock muffler, which is barely audible at any speed or stereo volume
if you don't want to have to talk over a droning muffler i would stay away from "performance" mufflers all together
if your exhaust is in good shape then just leave it be
especially with an auto tranny you aren't going to notice any horsepower increase or increased gas mileage
i couldn't tell any difference when i switched back to a stock exhaust from the thermal exhaust
and on long trips i always ended up getting 40mpg, regardless of which exhaust was on
also i wouldn't sugest puting on an intake unless you think it looks cool for when you open your hood and show off that beefy 1.5 liter SOHC engine
the only differnce that i noticed and that you would probable notice between a stock and a performance exhaust would be looks and sound
both of which are big
if you really want to drop $400 bucks on your car i would sugest getting some better rims and getting rid of the 13" stock steel wheels that are your car... unless of course you allready did that
i got a set of 14" honda rims off of my buddy's HX and they are the coolest thing ever
you really can't do much for the performance of an LX unless you do an engine swap because 105 horses just isn't much to work with
keep in touch and don't get discouraged by anything i said because it is all my opinion and yours might be different
except for the stuff about the stealth exhaust not fitting, that is a fact
later
Sean
ripthesystem
07-19-2002, 09:13 AM
Sean... sent you an email b4 I read your reply- so feel free to ignore it other than the request for pictures part;)
I NEED an exhaust-- my longpipe is cracked in half and the tailpipe fell off. cool it is not. Loud? damn right now my car sounds like a Harley. As long as the exhaust I get is quieter than this (it can be louder than stock) I won't mind at all.
I 100% believe you that the Thermal exhaust didn't fit right.. I just thought it was odd because I talked to them yesterday and they said the 2DR exhaust would fit on my 4DR..
Also talked to Tanabe and they said the same thing about their 2DR exhaust (Hyper Medallion) so now I don't know what to think. Conflicting info all over the place- oh well, why should anything be easy huh?
Actually one of the few I've found at all is the Brullen Quiet Version Catback that is actually made for the 4DR. Yup, believe it or not that is the only one I've found. Hmmmm.
ripthesystem
seanjuan
07-19-2002, 10:04 AM
niether of those companies was lying to you when they said the 2dr exaust would fit the 4dr... because the stock exhaust is the same on either body style
honda did this so they would only have to produce one exhaust system that would fit all of their cars
the fact of the matter is that the thermal exhaust did not fit either a two door or a four door... like i said, it is now on my friends coupe and he had the same prob i did
i don't know about other brands though
ok, so you NEED a new exhaust... i aggree
that is why i got a new one as well
but the thermal exhaust is just as loud as your car is right now but it just sounds good instead or like a backfiring lawnmower
i know how retarded a civic sounds with a messed up exhaust because that's the way mine was
if you really want to get a "performance" exhaust this is what i would do
buy the mid section from car-x or midas or something
i think it would cost you about $150 and it would deffinately FIT your car
then buy just the rear section for the thermal or the ws exhaust and put that right up to the mid section you got from midas
because the rear section of the thermal was exactly the same dimensions as my stock muffler
then, if it's too loud for you, you will only have to get rid of the rear section and not an entire exhaust... you could sell it on ebay and not lose much
anyway
just my thoughts
SEan
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