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Hyjnx da Civic
07-07-2002, 05:38 PM
www.JDMHondaParts.com says they sell the Long Blocks...

"• Longblocks are head & block assemblies only. Imagine a complete engine minus the transmission and axles - that is what a long block is. Everything minus the transmission "

so if i took out my head and block, and left me existing tranny (an automatic) would it still bolt up and work fine ? and does that mean i get the ECU and Sensors and all that as well ?

Basically has anyone delt with this site ? or do they know any other sites that could help me solve my problems ??

blownteggy
07-08-2002, 11:53 AM
no. completely different setup. also you would only recieve the listed parts no ecu. if i'm correct, the b16a2 ecu is a 99-00 si ecu. it's obd 2, not a responsive to mods as an obd 1 ecu

BLu3xCiViC
07-08-2002, 11:54 AM
it won't bolt-in (assuming ur car has a d-series engine).....u need an automatic b-series tranny.....an automatic ecu (gsr or sir).....a shift module which needs to be wired (if the b-series tranny is electronically controlled)....and of course the axles (automatic intermiadiate shaft).....engine harness from an automatic gsr or sir.....peace

blownteggy
07-08-2002, 11:56 AM
so such thing as an automatic gsr

BLu3xCiViC
07-08-2002, 12:00 PM
obd 1 ecu....may i add

BLu3xCiViC
07-08-2002, 03:36 PM
uh.....some of the gsr sedans came with an automatic tranny...dunno about the 2 doorz though

Hyjnx da Civic
07-08-2002, 04:46 PM
Whoa, i got info out the butt now...um any ideas of soem sites that would have this ? and Ive seen a site "http://www.trinituner.com/shop/manual.htm" where he does exactly what im considering. That doesnt make the tranny swap sound that hard....i mean if i follow that or anything else would it be easy ...that config on that site seems pretty simple and inexpensive... so now im thinkin bout tranny swap...help with that too ?

blownteggy
07-08-2002, 05:00 PM
wrong again buddy no such thing as an auto gsr

Hyjnx da Civic
07-08-2002, 07:50 PM
Acctually ur wrong...in 1996 they made an Automatic GSR 4-dr sedan... http://www.edmunds.com/used/1996/acura/integra/4drgsrsedan/specs.html?id=lin0066 shows it... sorry...i dont know, im acctually starting to think of swaping the tranny...how much would that cost and what would i need ? im going to look for the parts that u told me that i needed for the Auto drop...but still tell me what i would need to swap in a manual tranny

blownteggy
07-08-2002, 09:53 PM
hyjnx my buddy. trust me on this one ok.
THEY NEVER MADE AN AUTO GSR!
the link just shows the fuel data for an auto integ and manual integ. take it from an integra owner. they never made a auto gsr.

Hyjnx da Civic
07-08-2002, 11:22 PM
OK so forget the Auto tranny...what would i have to do to make it a manual ?

BLu3xCiViC
07-08-2002, 11:26 PM
okay maybe if i am mistakend...they did make a b18c gsr equavalent automatic transmission maybe only in the japanese market (same way with the sir) the automatic y20 tranny was made for the automatic b18c vtec engine which had some type of shift management technology i think they called it "smart" automatic, it sensed down shift and shiet like that....so you could always get an automatic jdm gsr equavalent ecu....blownteggy maybe i got my information wrong thanks for clearing my mistake (if any) so others can read this and have the right info......i'm sure of a jdm automatic b18c tranny but not of the usdm version....peace

blownteggy
07-09-2002, 12:24 AM
blu and hyjnx: i hope i didn't sound like a big meanie. anyways back to the topic or next discussion.
auto to manual is a little more complicated. i have dealt with cars that have had this conversion done. my 2 cents, sell your car for a stick shift model!!
here ya go
http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/auto-manual.html

Hyjnx da Civic
07-10-2002, 04:25 PM
See i dont control the money or the insurance so i cant sell it, and i dont really want to give up that easily on this car, i think i can make it really nice, ijust need time and money, so if i keep with the automatic and get those other parts (any websites of where i could find them ??) would it be more cost affective then switching to the manual ?



oh and i saw that site and it didnt seem to be that hard to switch it over although i could be wrong

ChrisCantSkate
07-10-2002, 05:09 PM
what about a LS tranny? its a b18....

blownteggy
07-10-2002, 08:13 PM
the ls tranny is a piece of crap. i should know since i had one. the gears are way too long.

Hyjnx da Civic
07-10-2002, 11:03 PM
is that really a problem though ? i just need something that will work, doesnt ahve to be affective eventually this car will be totally done over, but i want something that would work....

blown - u heard of something called revesre valve bodys ? it makes it so the automatic is some sort of a manual without the clutch...i know they have them on old american track cars, like B&M makes them and all that stuff...but im lookin for them for my honda, someone told me that HKS made them but i couldnt find it...if u know what im talkin bout please PM me with some INFO...this opened my ear alil more, and i am really interested in this idea...

blownteggy
07-11-2002, 12:20 AM
the valve body holds the gears throug first and second. i've only seen these in high performance v8's that hit 10's and are daily driven. i think a n auto dodge neon that hits 10's is using a valve body. it's an automatic. heere's a new i dea i thought of just like 10 minutes ago. there a 97-98 preludes that are auto. get a h22 with a auto tranny. 200 hp in a auto civic sounds nice.

ChrisCantSkate
07-11-2002, 01:13 AM
turst me, the SS auto trannys are crap. not the best design honda ever had. you may wana just convert to 5 spd.

Hyjnx da Civic
07-11-2002, 10:44 PM
ya, besides the H22 would weigh down the front of my car...and totally kill it. so i mean dont the new ludes have the automatic shifters ?...i thought i saw one

blownteggy
07-12-2002, 12:25 AM
they have the manu-matic shifter things

Hyjnx da Civic
07-12-2002, 10:32 PM
ya houw bout that ? or would i have to drop the H22's in there to make it work right ?

ChrisCantSkate
07-13-2002, 02:31 PM
trust me, if your getting a h22, convert it to 5spd. any swap you do, you should try and convert it, the auto tranny will cost you more.

Hyjnx da Civic
07-13-2002, 09:00 PM
ya ur right

slowEJ6
07-15-2002, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Hyjnx da Civic
ya, besides the H22 would weigh down the front of my car...and totally kill it. so i mean dont the new ludes have the automatic shifters ?...i thought i saw one
the h22 would weigh down the front of your car and totally kill it? no....it wouldnt.

5spd conversion is what you need.