spoogenet
05-07-2002, 03:30 PM
Ok, so let's have a little fun her on a completely off topic discussion well suited for this board. Here is a discussion between two people. I'd like to see what people think of it, ya know, pick it apart, see who's reasonable and who's not, etc. Just for fun. This is an exact transcript of the discussion.
To set up the situation, #1 is supposed to be the coordinator/organizer of dessert Mondays....don't ask. #2 created this whole dessert Monday thing....again, don't ask. #2 didn't bring the dessert on the first day that #2 was supposed to and instead brought it about a month later. #1 has brought desserts about 6 times, which is 6 times more than any other participant. Other participants didn't bring anything on their designated days either, much like #2, which is what caused #1 to bring things in the 6 times. Anyhow, so #2 is taking exception to being put on the schedule, mind you jokingly put on the schedule, for every Monday for 2 months. Here's how it goes:
1.
Who created this whole thing? YOU
Who didn't bring dessert on her first designated day? YOU
Who has brought the most desserts so far? ME
Who should pick up the slack? YOU
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2.
Don't argue with me.
I already picked up the slack.
I brought two desserts last Monday.
You brought your desserts voluntarily.
Therefore, you should not expect those to count.
Should've been a selfless deed...
Being that you sent out the email,
you should set an example and sign up
for one of those days. Otherwise, what's
the point of you sending that email?
It's like Osama Bin Laden saying to his followers,
"Go be a suicide bomber for Allah..." but not willing to do it himself...
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1.
That said, I will now proceed to argue with you.
No you didn't.
Wooptie doo.
Thus I voluntarily won't bring them, besides,
nobody is required to bring anything.
Nothing is truly selfless.
Just because I sent out an email does not
mandate that I bring desserts, one can
organize without participating.
The point of the email is to establish a schedule if
people desire to be on it. The President sends troops
to war but he does not fight in the war himself.
I won't bother commenting on the last remark.
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2.
Regardless of the fact that nothing is truly selfless,
you got whatever you should have been aiming for by
bringing your 'voluntary' desserts. You should not
expect any more credit. An effective organizer in this
situation should at least be willing to volunteer to
bring a dessert.
The President does not ask troops to commit suicide,
thank you very much, so you are not drawing a cogent analogy.
Nice try, though.
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1.
I'm not asking for any credit, you are making things up.
An organizer may choose an effective approach, if somebody else
feels he/she is a better organizer, then he/she should volunteer
to assume the responsibility of the organization.
You are again making things up. The President asks troops to go to
war, but he does not fight in the war himself. The dessert coordinator
may ask other people to make desserts, but he/she does not have to
make desserts him/herself. The analogy is sound.
What's with your fixation on suicide?
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2.
No, the analogy is not sound. Look it up in the dictionary:
Coordinator= of equal importance, rank or degree. A President
is a leader: Leader= one who is in charge or in command of others.
You are implying that a coordinator has the same relationship
among his/her peers that a President has with his troops.
The analogy is not sound.
Therefore, if you are of equal importance, rank or degree as
coordinator, you should be willing to contribute an equal amount.
Enough said.
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1.
So is bin Laden a coordinator, or a leader? Check your own analogy.
I have more important matters to devote my time to than your
incessant babbling.
Enough said.
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2.
Bin Ladin is an equal among people as far as the view from
Allah is concerned. So I'd have to say he's a coordinator.
It's not babble if my point is being proven.
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1.
Based upon your definition of coordinator, he does not coordinate people,
rather he leads them. Allah's viewpoint isn't of relevance to whether
he acts as a leader or a coordinator.
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1.
I take offense to being related to a terrorist.
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2.
I thought you didn't have time for incessant babble.
He may lead people, but I'm not looking at his political
position. Rather I was looking at his religious position,
which is equal among the rest of the 'earthly people'-
all I was saying was why should he tell other people to
commit suicide for Allah when he himself will not commit
suicide for Allah. Didn't mean to offend you. I was just
trying to point out that you weren't being reasonable.
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1.
At least I don't relate people to terrorists.
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2.
Oh yeah, good comeback.
Until next time
edit: made it a quote.
edit2: fixed the transposed #1 & #2
To set up the situation, #1 is supposed to be the coordinator/organizer of dessert Mondays....don't ask. #2 created this whole dessert Monday thing....again, don't ask. #2 didn't bring the dessert on the first day that #2 was supposed to and instead brought it about a month later. #1 has brought desserts about 6 times, which is 6 times more than any other participant. Other participants didn't bring anything on their designated days either, much like #2, which is what caused #1 to bring things in the 6 times. Anyhow, so #2 is taking exception to being put on the schedule, mind you jokingly put on the schedule, for every Monday for 2 months. Here's how it goes:
1.
Who created this whole thing? YOU
Who didn't bring dessert on her first designated day? YOU
Who has brought the most desserts so far? ME
Who should pick up the slack? YOU
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2.
Don't argue with me.
I already picked up the slack.
I brought two desserts last Monday.
You brought your desserts voluntarily.
Therefore, you should not expect those to count.
Should've been a selfless deed...
Being that you sent out the email,
you should set an example and sign up
for one of those days. Otherwise, what's
the point of you sending that email?
It's like Osama Bin Laden saying to his followers,
"Go be a suicide bomber for Allah..." but not willing to do it himself...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.
That said, I will now proceed to argue with you.
No you didn't.
Wooptie doo.
Thus I voluntarily won't bring them, besides,
nobody is required to bring anything.
Nothing is truly selfless.
Just because I sent out an email does not
mandate that I bring desserts, one can
organize without participating.
The point of the email is to establish a schedule if
people desire to be on it. The President sends troops
to war but he does not fight in the war himself.
I won't bother commenting on the last remark.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2.
Regardless of the fact that nothing is truly selfless,
you got whatever you should have been aiming for by
bringing your 'voluntary' desserts. You should not
expect any more credit. An effective organizer in this
situation should at least be willing to volunteer to
bring a dessert.
The President does not ask troops to commit suicide,
thank you very much, so you are not drawing a cogent analogy.
Nice try, though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.
I'm not asking for any credit, you are making things up.
An organizer may choose an effective approach, if somebody else
feels he/she is a better organizer, then he/she should volunteer
to assume the responsibility of the organization.
You are again making things up. The President asks troops to go to
war, but he does not fight in the war himself. The dessert coordinator
may ask other people to make desserts, but he/she does not have to
make desserts him/herself. The analogy is sound.
What's with your fixation on suicide?
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2.
No, the analogy is not sound. Look it up in the dictionary:
Coordinator= of equal importance, rank or degree. A President
is a leader: Leader= one who is in charge or in command of others.
You are implying that a coordinator has the same relationship
among his/her peers that a President has with his troops.
The analogy is not sound.
Therefore, if you are of equal importance, rank or degree as
coordinator, you should be willing to contribute an equal amount.
Enough said.
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1.
So is bin Laden a coordinator, or a leader? Check your own analogy.
I have more important matters to devote my time to than your
incessant babbling.
Enough said.
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2.
Bin Ladin is an equal among people as far as the view from
Allah is concerned. So I'd have to say he's a coordinator.
It's not babble if my point is being proven.
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1.
Based upon your definition of coordinator, he does not coordinate people,
rather he leads them. Allah's viewpoint isn't of relevance to whether
he acts as a leader or a coordinator.
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1.
I take offense to being related to a terrorist.
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2.
I thought you didn't have time for incessant babble.
He may lead people, but I'm not looking at his political
position. Rather I was looking at his religious position,
which is equal among the rest of the 'earthly people'-
all I was saying was why should he tell other people to
commit suicide for Allah when he himself will not commit
suicide for Allah. Didn't mean to offend you. I was just
trying to point out that you weren't being reasonable.
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1.
At least I don't relate people to terrorists.
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2.
Oh yeah, good comeback.
Until next time
edit: made it a quote.
edit2: fixed the transposed #1 & #2