View Full Version : I Need tips on how to make my car fast for cheap!
CivicVtec003
04-14-2002, 01:37 PM
Ok i have a 95' honda civic vtec i have a lota looks but i need the speed so i need to know how i can make it fast without spending a fortune?:)
94_AcCoRd_EX
04-14-2002, 09:00 PM
Hi, and welcome to HS.
Best way to increase power for the money is to get an engine swap or slap on a turbo...
toykilla
04-16-2002, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by CivicVtec003
Ok i have a 95' honda civic vtec i have a lota looks but i need the speed so i need to know how i can make it fast without spending a fortune?:)
Turbocharging has long been recognized as the most efficient method of increasing power while maintaining excellent engine life and daily drivability. The cost, when expressed in HP per dollar, is unmatched by any other method of increasing power. For instance, consider that our Stage II system for Talon/Eclipse provides up to a 130 HP gain for approximately $2900. This performance gain equals about $22 per HP. Now consider an exhaust, header and intake: a gain of about 20HP for $1000, or about $50 per HP, more than twice the cost per HP compared to turbocharging! - Hahn RaceCraft
It will be around the same thing for a Honda.
black95gs-t
04-16-2002, 04:05 AM
i like the paxton superchargers for the hondas. i have seen a few and they won't even void your warranty if you have one.
midjjj
04-16-2002, 11:57 PM
if you're not trying for a turbo, go the normal exhaust/intake/header route. not too bad of a way to go!
Toykilla just tries to sound like he knows what he's talking about!
jfwy!!!!;)
4jacks
04-17-2002, 02:26 PM
I think we already beat this discussion to death
Follow the thread
http://www.hondastyle.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3436
We settled that Nitrous kits are the "Best bang for the Buck"
At 75hp shot installed for $850
$11.33 dollars per HP
of course I lost this discussion
BUT since you said CHEAP and $850 isn't Cheap
EXHUAST AND INTAKE
intake $200
Exhaust $200
Hi flow muffler w/ custom bent 2.5" Pipe
You should get 20 hp outa that alone
Headers help but thier $500 and a lot harder to install
hope that helps and welcome to HS
94_AcCoRd_EX
04-17-2002, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by 4jacks
EXHUAST AND INTAKE
intake $200
Exhaust $200
Hi flow muffler w/ custom bent 2.5" Pipe
You should get 20 hp outa that alone
Headers help but thier $500 and a lot harder to install
hope that helps and welcome to HS
Not to contradict, but I/E is worth about 7-10hp if you're lucky, maybe not even that.
A header will run around $350 if you get a DC stainless.
Honda_Gurl
04-17-2002, 02:37 PM
...and how much hp do u actually see off of gettin headers??
94_AcCoRd_EX
04-17-2002, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Honda_Gurl
...and how much hp do u actually see off of gettin headers??
If you have intake and exhaust already, maybe another 5-6hp. I've seen quite a few dyno runs in magazines and whatnot, and the I/H/E package should get you 10-15hp total.
Maxvla
04-17-2002, 07:40 PM
hmm... would you ever slap on a turbo with stock everything else?? im talkin like a greddy mild turbo not some insane beast:eek:
cause if you could... i'd seriously consider putting a turbo as first mod next car...
4jacks
04-17-2002, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by 94_AcCoRd_EX
Not to contradict, but I/E is worth about 7-10hp if you're lucky, maybe not even that.
A header will run around $350 if you get a DC stainless.
I'm just destined to argue about CAI and exhuast forever....
Even though right now , I have neither :no:
I think I'm just use to talking about bigger displacement engines, it seems in all the stats of dyno's I find, larger engine respond better to intake, exhaust, and headers.
Example... SCC newest issue w/ the 240/Silvia on the Cover, They got 11hp out of a Greddy cat back and AEM CAI. That was on thier 6 cyclinder Eclipse though, I'm sure a 1.6 Honda will get less...
But your stretch of saying 7-10 hp "if your lucky" is as bad as my stretch of saying 20... well maybe not quite as bad .
At least all the ads say you get 10-15 hp a peice.
Maxvla
04-17-2002, 08:44 PM
take the ads and cut them in half... then they'd be lucky to get that... lol.
Quist
04-25-2002, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by 4jacks
I'm just destined to argue about CAI and exhuast forever....
Even though right now , I have neither :no:
I think I'm just use to talking about bigger displacement engines, it seems in all the stats of dyno's I find, larger engine respond better to intake, exhaust, and headers.
Example... SCC newest issue w/ the 240/Silvia on the Cover, They got 11hp out of a Greddy cat back and AEM CAI. That was on thier 6 cyclinder Eclipse though, I'm sure a 1.6 Honda will get less...
But your stretch of saying 7-10 hp "if your lucky" is as bad as my stretch of saying 20... well maybe not quite as bad .
At least all the ads say you get 10-15 hp a peice.
When your up late at night do you believe all of the info-mercials too, cause most of them are crap. Same as the ads. Also the companys that produce these parts measure Hp at the flywheel usualy so your not going to see everything that they say. Sorry to burst your bubble;)
toykilla
04-25-2002, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by CivicVtec003
Ok i have a 95' honda civic vtec i have a lota looks but i need the speed so i need to know how i can make it fast without spending a fortune?:)
junk yard = GSR engine. junk yard= you can find most of the parts for a custom turbo kit there. ebay= you own a honda, EVERYONE owns a honda so theres lots of used parts for cheap..
toykilla
04-30-2002, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by midjjj
if you're not trying for a turbo, go the normal exhaust/intake/header route. not too bad of a way to go!
Toykilla just tries to sound like he knows what he's talking about!
jfwy!!!!;)
that was a quote from hahn racecraft but i thought it would suit the question very well. turboing is far cheaper for the hp gains than anything else.
toykilla
04-30-2002, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by 4jacks
I think we already beat this discussion to death
We settled that Nitrous kits are the "Best bang for the Buck"
At 75hp shot installed for $850
$11.33 dollars per HP
too be honest you have a point with the nitrous. but look at it this way. my turbo works everyday all day..nos is only at a push of a button. my turbo was 2900$. i will not spend another cent on it for the rest of my life (if i wanted to remain stage II). however, nos requires refills and last i checked they arent at all cheap. so you could end up paying far more than any mod in the long run....
4jacks
05-02-2002, 03:08 PM
yes, you have refills, plus you have to use 93 Octane Gas, from then on, so It does have future cost.
But, NOS is only when you Want it, so it's not really causes engine wear. I don't care how much arguing you do, you can't convince me that a engine under constant compression is going to last as long and run as well as a N/A engine, and if your not using your NOS button for everything and Parking, then having NOS is almost like having N/A ... So thier is cost involved in that too
It all depends on what your looking for.... I just want a button to push for when some Punk pulls up next to me at the light. Rest of the time i'm Grandma Jones...
How much HP and torque Gain do you typically get out of a standard Turbo set up anyway, I beilve it's more than a nitrious shot ?? right ??
toykilla
05-03-2002, 01:46 AM
you dont have to boost. its only when you want to...
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