Well, it finally happened.

[Racing Rice]

I get to be on the receiving end of one of these threads. This is just a fvcked up day.

My wife and I have been together for 9 years now (married almost 4). Around Christmas time my wife began acting really weird. I knew something was going on, but of course no one ever admits anything when they are guilty. It's been going on like this since then.

We have cell phones through the family plan on my parents plan. Well my mom called me (at work) today and told me that she thinks she knows what the problem is. She gives me a number for some Nextel phone that my wife has been calling, and it had been calling her. My mom called the number and she said some guy answered the phone.

I called my wife to see what she said. Of course, at first she denied it. Then she said "We've just been talking." They ALL say that!!! So needless to say I'm a little pi$$ed right now. Work isn't going to smooth, and it is going to be a REALLY long day. Chances are we are going to get into a big fight tonight, and I'll be alone really soon.

I'd love to hope that they have just "been talking" but damn you know how hard that is to believe. I seriously doubt that we be able to work it out, because I honestly don't think that she wants to. She's isn't wo"MAN" enough to face the music and try to make things work.

All of this because she is mad because I don't want kids (right now) and she thinks she needs them. WTF!!!! Some women are FVCKING crazy!!! I give her everything including my heart and this is the kinda of SH!T I get! Thank you VERY Fvcking much.

There you have it.. Sorry for the long rant.. I'm some what breathless right now. I'm not upset because she is talking to someone, I'm mad because she keeps lying about it. I've never cheated on anyone. My man urges say it would be nice to get a little strange every now and again, but my heart just doesn't make it possible.

Everyone, I am living proof that nice guys DO FINISH LAST! I think I need some revenge sex now.

[Racing Rice]

Sorry for the crappy grammar and language. I can't think straight. My mind is going 1Mil miles per hour.

[pdiggitydogg]

Man, sorry to hear about this... I always thought everything was going smooth in your married world, but I guess not.
Talk about shit though, her going around behind your back.
I dont know what I can say about this...because I generally like to think worst case scenario... But I hope you guys can work it out...

[Grip72]

holy crap man..i read that and I feel so bad for you. "just talking" hmmm..i feel you man. best of luck~~

[Racing Rice]

Heh, thanks guys. I don't know what to do and I'm not really looking for answers. I'm just going to let things work themselves out. If it's meant to be then fine..

Pdiggs, the worse part about it is I thought we had a great marriage. Atleast until this whole thing started.

Honesty and communication are two of the biggest factors in keeping a marriage together, but when the communication is all lies it makes finding a resolution impossible. I guess we will see.

How do you be single? I don't remember what that is like, or what you do. Damn, if this doesn't work out this is going to be SOOOO strange.

Lesson learned, always trust your first instinct. I knew better then to get married.. I always told myself I didn't want to.

[pdiggitydogg]

eh, Im in a strange relationship right now...Girl is clingly.
I thought I got rid of her, but she came back with "i found out i have cancer - dont let me be alone" stuff and as we all know, Im too nice and took her back. Agh, its stupid. More often than not, Id rather just do the same old things I was doing anymore...

Who knows though man, maybe it is just talk and it will all work out in the end :luck:

[Racing Rice]

eh, Im in a strange relationship right now...Girl is clingly.
I thought I got rid of her, but she came back with "i found out i have cancer - dont let me be alone" stuff and as we all know, Im too nice and took her back. Agh, its stupid. More often than not, Id rather just do the same old things I was doing anymore...

Who knows though man, maybe it is just talk and it will all work out in the end :luck:

Wow, I've never heard that line before!? So chicks these days are playing the terminal illness card? Yikes! These games have risen to a new level. Now I'm definately scared. :D

It sounds like you have my kind of luck. Good luck to the both of us I suppose. ;(

[pdiggitydogg]

lol yeah I know
it seems this chick has like the shittiest life of all time
Her parents gave her up when she was 4
Her adoptive father hates her
Her twin died when they were 17 (brain tumor apparently)
She was raped by a college professor
Her Talon was a victim of crankwalk (ok probably true)
She discovers she has ovarian cancer...so all the duct work comes out = no kids
She bought a GTP for 19k (used!)

I dont know...after writing that all down...its probably all a big fat lie

[Racing Rice]

Sounds like a real Drama queen. I dated a girl like that. I don't doubt that she does have problems in her life, but when you use them to your advantage to make people feel sorry for you then it becomes a real problem.

You get stuck feeling sorry for her and think that you could help make life better for her. From my experiences though YOU CAN NOT! They don't want to make life better. They would prefer to keep use these problems as excuses instead of motivation. My suggestion is don't let yourself get to emotionally attached.

[GT40FIED]

Shit Jeremy...I can't even imagine what's going through your head. Well...actually I can because my last girlfriend cheated on me. But shit man...we weren't together for anything even close to as long. In my estimation, people of our generation just aren't brought up to stay married. I know people always say the divorce rate is 50%...but I'd say in a few years it's going to go a lot higher. I'm only 24 and I already know too many people who've been fucked over.

Any time you start to suspect anything funny going on, it's usually not much of a leap to bad things (assuming you're a rational person). As they say, "if there's any doubt there is no doubt". Shit man...I can't even imagine being at work at a time like that. Just think of it this way...as long as you're there, you're not at home and shit isn't blowing up.

[Racing Rice]

Welp she didn't even have the guts to sit down and talk about this. When I got home from work she had left a note saying that "she needs time to herself, and that she isn't happy anymore but she doesn't know why." Then she did the whole, "You haven't done anything wrong, so don't think that you have. It's me not you."

So here I sit in an empty house. Waiting for her to determine my future. The shitty part is the fact that she just can't be honest with me. Just when you think you know someone, you have no idea. So for the first time in 9 years, I'm officially alone. It is somewhat of an erie feeling really. I don't know what to do with myself. Hell I've already cleaned the house. I'll probably head off to workout soon.

[pdiggitydogg]

Damn man, thats some crap there...
I am really surprised that she's doing what she is...then came up with "its me not you" and LEFT! Seriously, thats some weak shit
Shes being really selfish man...and juvenile to boot

[Robert]

Thats a real surprise to me, I'm speachless. You two seemed to have the perfect marriage.

Whatever comes of it, be true to yourself and try not to blow up with her. It will do no good and only strain you more. If you part ways walk away as equals.

Keep us posted.

[Racing Rice]

Shes being really selfish man...and juvenile to boot


Funny, those were the same things that came to my mind.


Damn this sucks.. I never could have imagined being alone after all of these years hurting so bad. :confused:

[GT40FIED]

You've realized my worst nightmare...sitting alone in a house in Ohio.

I'm with everyone else...this is a huge fucking suprise. I mean...I don't ever assume anyone's marriage is perfect, but your's seemed to be one of the least troubled. Then for her to run away from the problem is just total bullshit. She's going to have to face you sooner or later. I have other thoughts as well...but it's nothing you need to be twisting your mullet over.

[Racing Rice]

You've realized my worst nightmare...sitting alone in a house in Ohio.


To make it even worse, it is snowing like crazy and cold as hell.. I think hell finally froze over today.:wtf:

[ebpda9]

damn man, that really sucks.

[Racing Rice]

Well, she came home this morning.

We had a long talk. I think I believe her that she has just been talking to this guy. Apparently, he is married also and they have been having problems. I dunno. I think she is depressed. She has all of the symptoms, and has had them for 3 months now. The only problem is, she doesn't think she is depressed so she refuses to see a docter. I don't know what to do. I think if we can get that taken care of, then things may start getting back to normal.

If I could just get her to understand the "help me, help you" theory I'll be in good shape.

[pdiggitydogg]

I have about 30 anti-depressant pills you can have, if you want to drug her secretly ;)
Theyre from when I went in for rage-a-hol help, and they decided I was depressd :rolleyes:

[Racing Rice]

Dude, that is very tempting. :D

[ebpda9]

tell her you are pregnant and she has to stick around :D.

why don't you try to go to some therapy toghether ?

[JDMFantasy2k]

hmm i seem to have overcome a similar situation.

About a month ago my girl had been acting weird as well. Turns out she had started talking to her friend and found out she had feelings for him. So we talked it out and went on vacation to florida which really made things better. My girl was also having the winter depression thing going on.

So maybe you guys need like a mini honeymoon and some warm weather to break her out of the duldrums and you guys can realize what you have and make it work.

good luck man. women are fucked up

[Racing Rice]

why don't you try to go to some therapy toghether ?

That would go over about as well as telling her she is depressed.



So maybe you guys need like a mini honeymoon and some warm weather to break her out of the duldrums and you guys can realize what you have and make it work.

I'd love to do that. I'll have to see what I can do. I can't get her to leave the dogs anywhere though, so it makes that a little more difficult.:banghead:

[CD5Passion]

wow i really hope this all works out for you. I hate how when you think a girl can be so mature, they turn around do something so childish. my last girlfriend and I broke up because of a situation like that. She refused to work anything out and just left, of course after she started talking to her first boyfriend again..mother fucker...

anyways, maybe you should talk to her about possibly going to marriage counseling or something? idk you just need to get her to open up or something.

I know when I finally get married, I refuse to be another statistic. To me divorce is not a option (unless of course it is absolutly the only thing). Last time i checked the vows say "through better or for worst"..stupid women

[Racing Rice]

I know when I finally get married, I refuse to be another statistic. To me divorce is not a option (unless of course it is absolutly the only thing). Last time i checked the vows say "through better or for worst"..stupid women

I agree 100%.. I do not want to get a divorce unless there is just no way to bring it back. I will do everything in my power to make this relationship work.

[JDMFantasy2k]

I agree 100%.. I do not want to get a divorce unless there is just no way to bring it back. I will do everything in my power to make this relationship work.
good man

i think my relationship just took a giant shit tongiht, i'll post later with juicy details ;(

[Mischief]

good man

i think my relationship just took a giant shit tongiht, i'll post later with juicy details ;(
heh bro your relationship sounds alot like the one I have with my ex.. we're good for a bit then something happens, then we're good again a day or two later until the next thing

[Robert]

You're more trusting then I would be. FOr someone to have hidden a relationship from me for a few months, then tell me it was only talk; I would be stretching myself a great deal to start believing a liar.

I would see help, I dont believe in divorce either and would get her tested and see a marriage counceler on this one.

[JDMFantasy2k]

it's just sad cause we'll fight over the stupidist shit ya know? Like florida got off to a rough start cause we fought in the airport but then the rest of the trip was great and we grew really close.

Today was her birthday and i wanted to make it really special ( i hadn't bought her anything until yesterday cause i didn't know if we'd make it to her b-day). So I left her messages on her myspace, and on AIM, and then i called her up and sung her happy birthday while playing it on my keyboard. Then she came over and i gave her 2 cards (one funny, one serious) a $25 gift certificate to get her nails done and a necklace from gordon's jewelers.. (looks like this http://cgi.ebay.com/NICE-NEW-MULTI-SILVER-CHAIN-OPEN-HEART-NECKLACE_W0QQitemZ8916723794QQcategoryZ92841QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem but i payed much more)

So i give it to her and i'm like make sure you like it, otherwise we'll return it. Naturally she pretends to like it untill finally i beat it out of her that she hates it. OK fine, i want you to be happy, we'll get you something you want. So we go to exchange it and she doesn't like anything in the store, so we return it. We go through every jewelery store in the mall and she doesn't find anything she likes. So i'm like i don't know what you want me to do then. She had wanted a tiffanys necklace but being unemployed i don't have that kinda cash right now and i told her i'd even get it for her eventually if she'd just wait. She said no and that she wanted something for her b-day. SO i'm like wtf am i supposed to do.

Then we get in this big fight about how i think she's so materialistic and it's all about her because she should be happy even if i didn't get her shit (like i really wouldn't care if she didn't get me shit for my B-day long as i get laid) but she's so immature and has to be a "princess". And i did everything i could, so i'm like fine i'm taking you home. Naturally i was pissed and made it home in like 10 minutes and the she left. What a fucking waste. i need another beer, blah. :nono:

[Mischief]

SO i'm like wtf am i supposed to do.
punch her in the vag

[JDMFantasy2k]

nah i mean i love the girl, but she has some serious issues she needs to work out, and it's just fucking us both up. I really tried but there's only so much i can do, then she gets bent when i don't know what to do. fuck girls

[GT40FIED]

You're more trusting then I would be. FOr someone to have hidden a relationship from me for a few months, then tell me it was only talk; I would be stretching myself a great deal to start believing a liar.

I would see help, I dont believe in divorce either and would get her tested and see a marriage counceler on this one.

Loathe as I am to say it, I agree with Rob. Not to totally shit on your happy ending Jeremy, but there are a lot of holes you didn't fill there. Like why is your wife talking to this guy and not telling you? I don't really see how her telling you about a new male friend would hurt things unless there's a reason he needs to be a secret. You also need to remember what happens when two people who are unhappy get together and start comiserating.

You don't need my advice, but I think you really need to convince your wife to see someone. If she doesn't want to, tough shit. There's no way you'll be able to trust her otherwise if she doesn't. Trust me...I've been down this road before. Nobody wants to accept their own faults, but if things continue the way they've been going then you're going to be the one who becomes the reason she's unhappy.

[Robert]

Loathe as I am to say it, I agree with Rob. Not to totally shit on your happy ending Jeremy, but there are a lot of holes you didn't fill there. Like why is your wife talking to this guy and not telling you? I don't really see how her telling you about a new male friend would hurt things unless there's a reason he needs to be a secret. You also need to remember what happens when two people who are unhappy get together and start comiserating.

You don't need my advice, but I think you really need to convince your wife to see someone. If she doesn't want to, tough shit. There's no way you'll be able to trust her otherwise if she doesn't. Trust me...I've been down this road before. Nobody wants to accept their own faults, but if things continue the way they've been going then you're going to be the one who becomes the reason she's unhappy.

This is a first.

To add to the holes.

Where was she last night?
If it was only talk why did she flea the relatioship for an evening to 'stort out her problems' she should come to you to talk?

[Robert]

Ok I'm dieing waiting to know whats going on...

[Racing Rice]

She says she didn't want to tell me because she didn't want me to get mad. I dunno, I mean, we all do something like that every now and again. Who really knows. We've been together for nine years and she's never really given me a reason not to believe her in the past.

It's one of those things were you don't want to go over board when in reality nothing is happening, but then again can one really be sure what is happening?


As for, where she was the night that she left. She said she stayed at a hotel trying to sort things out.

Honestly, it is hard as hell not to jump to conclusions. I think as humans once trust has been compromised we tend to focus on the negatives whether they exist or not. Like I said before, I'm going to do everything in my power to make this work. If I fail, atleast I can say I was the bigger person in this relationship and atleast keep my head held high. Not that it was ease the pain of the whole ordeal, but atleast hopefully later it will help me retain some sort of self comfort.

So for now, I'm just taking life day by day and trying to make the best out of what I still have. No one knows what will happen tomorrow, but I'm just going to try to make the best out of today and not worry about it. Yes, you could probably call me a fool but that is just how I am.

If for some reason this relationship does fail. Atleast some woman will get a good man sooner or later. I just have to hope that I can get a good woman.:banghead:

[GT40FIED]

I wouldn't call you a fool, I'd call you cautious....which is exactly what you should be. I've found, however, that once trust is breached in a relationship, it's incredibly hard if not impossible to get it back totally. Even if she comes around this time, what are you going to think the next time she starts acting strangely? Or the time after that. And for what it's worth, while she might have stayed at a hotel, a credit card receipt doesn't tell you that she was alone. Again, I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but no one hides a friend...even a confidant...from a spouse unless they have good reason to. I think I can safely say you're not a violent person or even a person with a temper Jeremy...so why did she need to feel like she had to run away? A rational person would've stayed to talk things over.

I don't know...maybe it's my distrust of women speaking, but this whole thing just stinks to me. I have good reason to distrust women, but maybe you don't. Go with your gut, don't be easily fooled, and try to get to the bottom of this with as little fanfare as possible.

[Robert]

I wouldn't call you a fool, I'd call you cautious....which is exactly what you should be. I've found, however, that once trust is breached in a relationship, it's incredibly hard if not impossible to get it back totally. Even if she comes around this time, what are you going to think the next time she starts acting strangely? Or the time after that. And for what it's worth, while she might have stayed at a hotel, a credit card receipt doesn't tell you that she was alone. Again, I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but no one hides a friend...even a confidant...from a spouse unless they have good reason to. I think I can safely say you're not a violent person or even a person with a temper Jeremy...so why did she need to feel like she had to run away? A rational person would've stayed to talk things over.

I don't know...maybe it's my distrust of women speaking, but this whole thing just stinks to me. I have good reason to distrust women, but maybe you don't. Go with your gut, don't be easily fooled, and try to get to the bottom of this with as little fanfare as possible.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Should Nikki pull something like this on me they Jeremy I would be doing the same thing. Though I dont believe the bit about hidding it to stop you from getting mad, unless you have displayed rage around her having men friends before.

[Racing Rice]

I know where both of you are coming from. I've been here before and it sucks, but the last time I wasn't married.

Just think about it this way. I'd really like to be 100% positive that something is indeed going on, before I do anything that I can or will regret later. I am being cautious, and I'm not going to just forget that all of this has happened. I've always been the kind of person to get one the benefit of the doubt. Sure it has come back to bite me in the ass, but I've also been wrong before as well. Sooner or later the truth will uncover itself, and when it does I'll be ready for it.

It's easy to sit and say I would do this or I would do that until you're actually faced with the situation, because a lot of times reality isn't as clear cut as it is when you play the situation in your head. It is better to have tried and failed, then to have never tried at all.

I'll try to keep you guys updated if anything new happens. Now, I wait strategically.:drunk: :bomb:

[nonovurbizniz]

I agree 100%.. I do not want to get a divorce unless there is just no way to bring it back. I will do everything in my power to make this relationship work.

Trying to avoid being one statistic makes you another...

I'm not trying to fan the flames or anything... but if you ask me even talking to some guy married or not CROSSES THE LINE... she LIED and hid stuff from you...

I went through similar problems with my wife a couple months ago only she spent money (a LOT) w/o telling me and lyed about it...

Same thing she won't confront much less admit she has problems and it's making our lives SUCK...

We have 2 kids already so it makes it MUCH worse splitting up but at this point I really don't see any other option...

In my case we could stay married as long as I shut up and let her be whoever she is... but that's not good for the family... and me constantly trying to get her to do things she's NOT going to do is not good for the family... frankly splitting up provides the best family situation (at least that's how I see it now)... of course financially I CAN NOT afford to move out... so we're still together for now.

Now I don't know any details about your situation other than what I just read... and I'll say the same thing to you as I said to my wife...

" You LIED... it doesn't matter what it was about, you lied... I didn't KNOW you lied when you did... how can I EVER trust you?"

Seriously... anyone willing to cross the line and break the trust of marriage is NOT ready for marriage.

Chances are if you try to make it work your just gunna end up being the nice guy that finished WAY WAY WAY last... instead of just last.

Do you want to deal with being single now and getting divorced now or when you've already built up savings have joint assetts... make more money... are older or god forbid have kids together???

I'm not saying drop out the first chance you get... but if my wife was having regular secret conversations (whether or not they were sexual or led anywhere) I'd be out the door in under a second.

If SHE wanted to work things out it would take a LOT of convincing for me to EVER even CONSIDER getting back together... and frankly I don't think I would even if I believed her.

Really not trying to incite you just sharing my opinions on my similar-ish situation.

[V8killimports]

First thing first you need to go to marriage counseling with your wife. If there are issues and she really does want to work things out she will do ANYTHING to do it.. if she doesn't want to go to marriage counseling the next step I would take is getting a lawyer because she obviously doesn't want to work things out. Regardless of all of this I would also hire a PI to see what exactly she is up to from day to day. Some people say this is distrustful, but she has lost your trust as it is and has no reason to be trusted.

I would not hesitate on doing any of this either. I would suggest maggiage counseling in the next day or so. Also visit this site.. www.marriagebuilders.com and check out their forums. They have lots of good information and people to ask questions and should have some great advice.

[JDMFantasy2k]

First thing first you need to go to marriage counseling with your wife. If there are issues and she really does want to work things out she will do ANYTHING to do it.. if she doesn't want to go to marriage counseling the next step I would take is getting a lawyer because she obviously doesn't want to work things out. Regardless of all of this I would also hire a PI to see what exactly she is up to from day to day. Some people say this is distrustful, but she has lost your trust as it is and has no reason to be trusted.

I would not hesitate on doing any of this either. I would suggest maggiage counseling in the next day or so. Also visit this site.. www.marriagebuilders.com and check out their forums. They have lots of good information and people to ask questions and should have some great advice.

well said.

As for the 2 previous posts i can see where you're both comming from. Yeah you have that instinct, leave her and be done with it. But at the same time it seems like you don't want to accept it so you play nice guy and try to fix things. I'm the same way. I'd say at this point continue with your plan jeremy, you don't really have anything to lose at this point so you might as damn well try. Good luck man!

[nonovurbizniz]

Don't get me wrong... my wife and I have been having problems for a while... and I keep trying...

But for me it reached a point where it's pretty obvious I'm the only one interested in trying to RESOLVE any of our problems... she'd prefer to ignore them and hope they get better.

[Racing Rice]

Don't get me wrong... my wife and I have been having problems for a while... and I keep trying...

But for me it reached a point where it's pretty obvious I'm the only one interested in trying to RESOLVE any of our problems... she'd prefer to ignore them and hope they get better.

I feel sorry for you, since I have a damn good idea what your going through. Luckily I don't have kids and stuff to worry about though. I don't understand the whole thought process behind trying to ignore the problem, other then they are to scared to face the problem head on. Man, women can be more of a hassle then they are worth sometimes.:loco:

[Robert]

Sounds like an immature way to deal with the problem. Hopefully you two can work it out.

[GT40FIED]

Ok Jeremy...here's what you do. You go out and find a goose and...oh wait...that's what I'd do. Scratch that.:D

Here's the bottom line man. I think we've already established that you're going to be the only one acting like an adult here and as such you're the only one entitled to make adult decisions. If she's going to run away every time shit gets difficult, you're going to have one helluva problem marriage. Every marriage has problems...even the best ones...so it's important to learn how to face those problems head on. If she's unwilling to do that you have no future with her. Sorry man, but there it is. It's a matter of nature that the "newness" and initial excitement will wear off in any relationship...it has to and that's not necessarily bad. But two people who truely love each other will settle into a seperate life that doesn't require that excitement and those are the one who will last.

I'll never understand how you can be with someone for the better part of a decade (or longer in some cases) then just wake up one day and decide to piss it all away. I mean I figure if someone was gonna do that they'd do it pretty early on. Bah...women.

[Racing Rice]

Ok Jeremy...here's what you do. You go out and find a goose and...oh wait...that's what I'd do. Scratch that.:D

Dude! I'm liking this idea more and more.. She needs beat with a goose. Maybe the goose could knock some sense into her.


I'll never understand how you can be with someone for the better part of a decade (or longer in some cases) then just wake up one day and decide to piss it all away. I mean I figure if someone was gonna do that they'd do it pretty early on. Bah...women.

Thats the part that I just don't get either. I know that what I did wasn't right, but IMO it isn't THAT big of a deal that it can't be worked out and forgiven. Who knows what the hell are going through thier minds.

[Robert]

I'll never understand how you can be with someone for the better part of a decade (or longer in some cases) then just wake up one day and decide to piss it all away. I mean I figure if someone was gonna do that they'd do it pretty early on. Bah...women.

You'll never understand until you walk the walk yourself.

[revival]

i'm surprised no female has stepped in during this conversation... ignore this if you want, but it's my two cents.
to be honest my relationship with my bf was a lot like your marriage. yes, i was talking to other guys, but it never escalated beyond that. if you've checked my profile and noticed that i'm 17, yes i've been dating one guy for the past 4.5 years. even while dating him i was talking to other guys and for just over a year it became a long distance relationship. so my thoughts wandered. but it was simply lust... i felt nothing for those guys, it was just fun to talk. and then when i finally moved back into the same city with my bf, lo and behold, the sh1t hits the fan.
the first week of summer in my new house he calls me and tells me that he has "stuff" to do, and if he got caught he didn't want me to be involved... that "stuff" was all a lie. he was testing me... two months later (when school started again) he calls me up and apologized and wanted to get back together with me... and so i did (don't ask... i love him so i was willing. love makes you do STUPID things). so on with the story, a few months down the road my computer crashes and he goes to fix it. my electronic diary is on the harddrive. people have told me that it's MY diary and he had no right to read it, but if i said he couldn't then he would be like "what are you hiding from me?" so... he read it, then the hell began... he found out i had been talking to this guy and flirting with another... but i NEVER did anything but talk! ....
we fought all last year, he was saying that i had become too cold (well no duh, i was dumped over the summer) and uncaring. but we eventually came to a compromise (after fighting every other day). we were sort of even now; him for testing me and me for lying.... okay so maybe we were both wrong on some level... but he were the oneshot relationship kind of guy, meaning "if the first girl doesn't work then i'm single for the rest of my life." the extreme monogamist. but whatever... we did manage 2 work it out in the end...:)

my explanation for this form of infidelity is that maybe she feels like she's missing something. just a speculation, i wouldn't know. but that's how i felt when i was talking to the other guys. i was missing the flirting and feeling of being desired...:pfft:
really try talking to her. your wife running away during a problem like this is not right. you two are adults and adults know everything right? ;)

[Robert]

revival thanks for writting, you're the closest one to my area ever on this board. I to am from Toronto Ontario. Craziness.

I dont think you can compare a marriage to a relationship had by two teenagers. A marriage is alot more then just a relationship, its a serious commitment to eachother to support eachother for the rest of your lives. To say your relationship was like a marriage I suspect is an stretch.

Either way, Jeremy is walking his own walk. He has to do what he feels is right in this situation. There is not RIGHT or WRONG way for him to solve his problems, there are only different paths.

[GT40FIED]

Again, I'm going with Rob on this one (scary, isn't it?).

Revival...I hate to say this, but your relationship, as it were, is a sham. All of the troubles you've been kind enough to share tell me that, among other things, there is almost literally no trust in your "relationship". If your boyfriend trusted you, he wouldn't feel the need to "test" you (and the way he did it makes me believe he may be borderline retarded). Your lack of fidelity, physical or otherwise, makes me believe you have some serious issues with you relationship as well. Flirting with other men is never innocent and it is never ok. It's a sign that you want out of said relationship and will belittle your boyfriend to obtain said goal. Not to excuse what your boyfriend did, but your actions are just as subject to suspect. You say that love makes you do stupid things. That's bullshit. YOU make you do stupid things. Since love is biochemically no different than eating large amounts of chocolate, one could surmize that common sense could overcome "love". I use qutations because I don't think what you have is love, it's security. Without trust there isn't love and I can site numerous examples of a lack of trust just in the one post you've made in this thread. I'm by no means trying to put you down or chase you off...this is simply my opinion based on what you've posted. I know the last thing a 17 year old wants is advice. I was once a 17 year old myself. But take it from a 24-year-old-used-to-be-17-year-old...you're not doing yourself any favors.

[revival]

How can I respond to GT40FIED?
l"...love is biochemically no different than eating large amounts of chocolate..." It may be true but if you honestly can say that about love, it makes me think that you've had your heart crushed by someone you've loved before.
But regarding my situation (which was besides the point of this thread...), it is security, but if we hated each other we wouldn't have lasted this long. Love is a complicated thing (so cliche) but it's also one of those things that only your heart can tell you (... that sounds so cheesy). But so after the sh1t hit the fan last year I am completely committed. We had our ups and downs but it seems pretty okay. And if I'm lucky, it's engagement time this summer. :D
Even if you're right about me not doing myself any favours, it's just life, you just got to live and learn and screw up along the way.

[GT40FIED]

Well...it's not a matter of IF love is the same as eating a large wuantity of chocolate...it is. Both cause your brain to emit chemicals causing a sort of euphoria. Some people, one could theorize, are even addicted to such a feeling (those assholes who are "in love with being in love"). And you're right...I have had my heart crushed by someone I loved before. In fact it's happened more than once. If you haven't had your heart broken, then you've never really loved anyone. But none of that keeps me from being suprisingly optimistic about love and all that comes with it.

Also, I feel the need to point out that some of the longest relationships I've ever seen were driven maybe not by hate exactly, but definitely a sense of spite and loathing. I'll never understand why, but some people seem compelled to be with someone they can barely tolerate, much less love. As Dane Cook put it, "I'll stick around for 2 or 3 years and then we can end this thing violently".:D

Again, these thoughts aren't meant to belittle you, put you down, or anything of the like. Simply consider it friendly advice. Though I don't know you, I hate to see people's lives headed in what I feel is the wrong direction when it's easily avoidable (if anything involving love is ever easy, that is). The path you choose to take is your own...just consider all of this my two cents.

[revival]

To be honest, when you describe love so... er... scientifically... You don't sound so optimistic about it. =\

:D "I feel the need to point out that some of the longest relationships I've ever seen were driven maybe not by hate exactly, but definitely a sense of spite and loathing. I'll never understand why, but some people seem compelled to be with someone they can barely tolerate, much less love. As Dane Cook put it, "I'll stick around for 2 or 3 years and then we can end this thing violently"." :D
It's strange, hell I started out loathing my bf too. Hahahah... I wonder if this just makes human nature (in the regards to love anyway) naturally masochistic and sadistic? o_O?

Oh and your two cents will go into my penny jar. :)

[Accord Man]

Wow, unbelievable..

I dont really know you or anything, but since this board came online I knew you were with someone.. not sure if you were already married at the time.. It saddens me to hear this..

I feel your pain. Really.. I hope you pull through ok.

[Robert]

Loving someone isnt complicated. Living with them and sharing everything about your life is.

[revival]

Loving someone isnt complicated. Living with them and sharing everything about your life is.

i completely agree *nods head* :D

[Racing Rice]

YEA!!! It's all over now.

I finally got her to confess and tell me exactly has been going on. Not only was she sleeping with one guy, she's been sleeping with TWO guys. Everything's almost unbelievable, but I feel so much better now! It's amazing what closure can do. She is about to get a real dose of reality now.

I told her to pack her stuff and get out.

Time to PARTY!

[Robert]

I'm really sorry to hear that and I'm sorry that your marriage has been ruined. Hopefully the two of you can go your own way. I hope for your sake she was smart enough to use protection.

Keep us posted on how you're doing.

[Racing Rice]

I ALWAYS used protection. Though we really didn't do it much. I don't understand what's going on in her head, but she has some SERIOUS issues obviously.

She's been driving me crazy today calling my cell phone trying to get me to come back home. I'm staying at my parents tonight while she moves her stuff out. She keeps telling me that she can stop and change. I told her that she should have thought about that a long time ago. I can't take any more of her little games. I'm done. Now I just have to finalize this divorce and get on with my life.

[Robert]

Thats just insane Jer. I'm guessing this has been going on for a while and its jsut something you stumbled onto.

For whatever its worth, my heart goes out to you. I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

Hopefully your divorce goes smoothly and quickly.

[GT40FIED]

So wait...lemme get this straight...not only was she cheating on your with guy #1, but she was cheating on guy #1 with guy #2? Sweet zombie jesus man...I hate to say this, but she certainly sounds like a whore. Glad you had the good sense to kick her to the curb. I just can't believe she kept lying for this long.

Oh...and it sounds like you owe your mom something real nice next Mother's Day for uncovering this web of bullshit.

[Robert]

So wait...lemme get this straight...not only was she cheating on your with guy #1, but she was cheating on guy #1 with guy #2? Sweet zombie jesus man...I hate to say this, but she certainly sounds like a whore. Glad you had the good sense to kick her to the curb. I just can't believe she kept lying for this long.

Oh...and it sounds like you owe your mom something real nice next Mother's Day for uncovering this web of bullshit.


Jeremy you do have one heck of a mother.

[nonovurbizniz]

Hey man sorry to here it turned out for the worst but at least your done with it...

Enjoy your freedom. And be happy it happened before you had kids. Imagine if you felt the same way when she had pushed for it.

[revival]

:eek: woah... well... er... at least that's over with... oh man... that makes women seem REALLY bad... :(

well i wish you the best for the future, hopefully your next relationship won't be so... er... fcuked... :P

so yeah... good luck with the rest of your life...

[Racing Rice]

So wait...lemme get this straight...not only was she cheating on your with guy #1, but she was cheating on guy #1 with guy #2? Sweet zombie jesus man...I hate to say this, but she certainly sounds like a whore. Glad you had the good sense to kick her to the curb. I just can't believe she kept lying for this long.

Oh...and it sounds like you owe your mom something real nice next Mother's Day for uncovering this web of bullshit.

I turned her into a sexual fiend I guess. I don't know. I was her first and only until this all started in January.

My mom is the best!

I'm not in any hurry to get into another relationship. I'm going to have fun and do whatever the hell I want. I'm going to live it up a little. I also want to do some travelling.

[ebpda9]

wow man, that is just fucked up. time to go out to bars and go beaver hunting

[GT40FIED]

I turned her into a sexual fiend I guess. I don't know. I was her first and only until this all started in January.

My mom is the best!

I'm not in any hurry to get into another relationship. I'm going to have fun and do whatever the hell I want. I'm going to live it up a little. I also want to do some travelling.

I suppose there's a slim chance she's developed manic depression. People who are bi polar tend to have extremely poor sexual impulse control when in a manic swing. Then again it'd be pretty rare to develop such a condition so late in life. I know you're probably cursing her name and the day you met her right now, but I'd say as a human being you should urge her seriously to get some kind of professional help. If nothing else, she'll become someone else's problem.:D

And good thinking on not getting into anything right away. My brother got involved before the ink was even on his divorce papers (although his ex wife got involved way before that...the whore) and it just seemed...sketchy. He's actually marrying the girl in July so maybe he got lucky (though time will tell and I have my doubts).

And Revival...this doesn't make women look bad...it makes A woman look bad. I think around here we all get that both sexes fuck up on a regular and somewhat predictable basis.:D

[Robert]

women are bad... bad to the bone... der ner ner ner ner

I was reading somewhere 60% of women cheat and 43% of men cheat. I believe the poll was done by a magazine with a same size of 2000

[revival]

wow man, that is just fucked up. time to go out to bars and go beaver hunting

nooooooooo hunting beavers is mean!!! :D

[pdiggitydogg]

damn man, been awhile since i looked at this thread
Sorry to hear that its fallen apart, but it is always good to finally hear the truth and be able to close the subject... Still sucks though

[Wren57]

Wow, sorry to hear it went down this way. I have lots of respect for you being able to kick her out wholly and move on without hesitation. Must hurt but it's the right decision. Best of luck.

[KwikR6]

Damn man. Jeremy I'm so sorry that this happened. I saw this thread a while ago and just kept my yap shut. I really hope all goes well for you. Not her though, fuck her. Dude I wish I was there for you and we could go to the bar or somethign and get wasted and pick up some broads. Although I wasn't with my ex for 9 years, 5 1/2 is long enough. I can somewhat relate to what your going though with the break up. Keep your head up high man. Keep busy, work out lots. I found that helped me out a lot.

[Robert]

jer care to give us an update? Is the divorce going ahead or are you going to try and recover this?

My heart really goes out to you. As someone who's getting married shorly this would be my worst nightmare.

[JDMFantasy2k]

wow that really sucks but it sounds like the closure is really helping you through. Takes some balls to do what needs to be done. Hope everything will go well from here.

[Racing Rice]

Well, here goes...

A few days after I kicked her out of the house she called me crying. She said she knows that she made a mistake and she was sorry about it (over and over.) She begged me to give her another chance. After a lot of talking she we have gotten back together and are working things out. It was a really hard decision, and the only reason that I decided to take her back is because I know that this person she was for three months, really isn't the person that she is.

I believe that we all make mistakes in life. I know a lot of you guys think I'm an idiot, but you really can't talk until you're there.

Things are getting better. It is going to take a lot of time to rebuild stuff, but I know we can do it.

[pdiggitydogg]

I dont think youre an idiot, because I probably would have done the same thing. Sure, another part of me screams "NO!" but Im sure its actually an alright move to make.
Really, I made a similar choice with a gf I had soo many years ago, and to this day wish I didnt...but somehow wife is a whole lot more than gf.

[KwikR6]

I dated a girl for almost 6 years. Or was it 5. Who cares. Either way what i'm getting at is, that we broke up a few times. And each and every time I took her back. Why? Because i loved her. Jer I don't completely understand what your going through. But man I can relate. I know that taking her back isn't easy. But on the other hand, when it's love. It's love. So dude. I support your decision. And like Pat. The inside I'm going...NO DUDE....HOWEVER you are right. It's not us, and we cannot comment until we are in that position. I was in a similar (i use that term loosley) position to yours and like I said, I can relate dude, and part of me does understand.

[Racing Rice]

I can't say that the decision was easy.. It wasn't just one phone call from her saying I'm sorry will you take me back. It was several, and her begging and pleading. Even to this day a part of me still wonders if I'm making the right decision, because the trust that I had for her is gone and it will have to be rebuilt.

I can read her pretty well, and I usually know when she is being honest with me and when she isn't. Unfortunately I knew the whole time that something more was going on when it was happening but I didn't want to accept it. She swears that she isn't talking to these guys anymore. Cell phone records agree, and she says she has deleted thier numbers from her phone. (Which she has because I checked. :D ) These things aren't absolute proof that she still isn't having contact with these guys, but her attitude has changed. She's a lot more happy and active then she use to be.

I can only hope that in time we can put this behind us and move on with our lives, and grow old and happy together. Hopefully even bring us closer together in the long run. Until then, I have to keep a positive attitude, and she has to rebuild the trust that she has broken.

I've already told her that if she even has serious thoughts about being with someone else again, don't even bother coming back. I'll probably lose it, and do something that I'll regret for a very, very long time.... Probably 20 to life. :paranoid:

[GT40FIED]

Jeremy...I hate to say this, but I'm going to have to disagree witn everyone else. I've been in your position before (minus the marriage part...I hope to never be married. I don't need a piece of paper to tell me I love someone). After a good deal of thought and a lot of talking with friends, I realized that there was no way that the original trust I had with my then-girlfriend would ever be fully restored. I'm sure you came about this decision with no light thought, but is this really a story you want to tell your kids someday? No, I don't think you're crazy or foolish or whatever...I think your judgement is clouded by whatever you want to call love. Since love means different things to different people, I won't try and quantify it here. I'll just say that it makes you acts ilogically and on impulses that don't suit your best interests. You feel compasion for the mate you have chosen...that's natural. However given her actions thus far I'm not convinced she shares that same sense of emotion. Imagine the situation was reversed and you were the woman. Imagine that the breach of trust had not been infidelity, but rather physical abuse. Would you still hang around and bow to the pleas of your partner? Because that's all cheating is...abuse. It's not physical, but it is sure as shit mental abuse. She might as well come up and slap you in the face with the fact that she fucked around on you. If you're willing to second guess yourself every time she goes out for the night, that's up to you. Personally it'd drive me insane which is why once that bond has been broken, no amount of crying over the phone can bring it back.

[KwikR6]

Jeremy...I hate to say this, but I'm going to have to disagree witn everyone else. I've been in your position before (minus the marriage part...I hope to never be married. I don't need a piece of paper to tell me I love someone). After a good deal of thought and a lot of talking with friends, I realized that there was no way that the original trust I had with my then-girlfriend would ever be fully restored. I'm sure you came about this decision with no light thought, but is this really a story you want to tell your kids someday? No, I don't think you're crazy or foolish or whatever...I think your judgement is clouded by whatever you want to call love. Since love means different things to different people, I won't try and quantify it here. I'll just say that it makes you acts ilogically and on impulses that don't suit your best interests. You feel compasion for the mate you have chosen...that's natural. However given her actions thus far I'm not convinced she shares that same sense of emotion. Imagine the situation was reversed and you were the woman. Imagine that the breach of trust had not been infidelity, but rather physical abuse. Would you still hang around and bow to the pleas of your partner? Because that's all cheating is...abuse. It's not physical, but it is sure as shit mental abuse. She might as well come up and slap you in the face with the fact that she fucked around on you. If you're willing to second guess yourself every time she goes out for the night, that's up to you. Personally it'd drive me insane which is why once that bond has been broken, no amount of crying over the phone can bring it back.
I gotta say GT. That's well put.
I'm still sort of dangling on the fence here Jeremy. Like I said I'll support your decision and all that. But inside i'm a little sketchy.

Jeremy you said that you checked your cell phone. As far as I'm concerned that's the least of the things that you can do. I would have that girl on a pretty tight leash for a long time if I wsa you.

[Robert]

Jer, I suspect you have made the right choice and I'm going to say to the contrary whatever has been said pior. Let things fall into place as they may, let her create teh structure to how she will earn your trust back instead of creating it for her. I thinking forcing something on her will only teach her to follow rules instead of repairing the trust.

I wont judge your call on this. It is a marriage and completely different they a gf, no matter how long you've dated.

The part I would struggle with is the trust. Thats something I'm not sure I would know how to rebuild. I'm sure however there are profesionals who know how to help couples rebuild that trust and I would recommend you see those types of people.

After 9 years being together and suspect you cannot imagine your life without her and that is why you've made this call. In your shoes I cannot be sure what choice I would make but I do know I would not making it lightly.

Everyone is going to tell you what he/she would do in your situation and for the most part these people are full of it unless they've walked the path themselves. I suspect most of them would actually do the opposite of what they've told you they would do. So take it all in stride, and work through this situation. YOu made a commitment between you and her, infront of your family and God to be with her through good times and bad. Welcome to the bad times, now is where you have the opporunity to build a relationship stronger then you had before.

There are no problems in life, only opportunities to do better.

[Racing Rice]

Jeremy...I hate to say this, but I'm going to have to disagree witn everyone else. I've been in your position before (minus the marriage part...I hope to never be married. I don't need a piece of paper to tell me I love someone). After a good deal of thought and a lot of talking with friends, I realized that there was no way that the original trust I had with my then-girlfriend would ever be fully restored. I'm sure you came about this decision with no light thought, but is this really a story you want to tell your kids someday? No, I don't think you're crazy or foolish or whatever...I think your judgement is clouded by whatever you want to call love. Since love means different things to different people, I won't try and quantify it here. I'll just say that it makes you acts ilogically and on impulses that don't suit your best interests. You feel compasion for the mate you have chosen...that's natural. However given her actions thus far I'm not convinced she shares that same sense of emotion. Imagine the situation was reversed and you were the woman. Imagine that the breach of trust had not been infidelity, but rather physical abuse. Would you still hang around and bow to the pleas of your partner? Because that's all cheating is...abuse. It's not physical, but it is sure as shit mental abuse. She might as well come up and slap you in the face with the fact that she fucked around on you. If you're willing to second guess yourself every time she goes out for the night, that's up to you. Personally it'd drive me insane which is why once that bond has been broken, no amount of crying over the phone can bring it back.


Steve,

You make valid points, but I can't say that I agree with you. I understand that you've been hurt before. I have as well, this isn't the first time and I can only hope that it is the last. Yes, the trust thing is a big issue but I don't believe that trust can not be rebuilt. Maybe YOU won't let the trust be rebuilt, but that is issues that you personally have to workout. Unfortunately, before you can trust someone else you have to learn how to get ahold of your own emotions and be in control of them. Is it easy? Hell no it isn't! Does it happen over night? Hell no it doesn't? However, I do believe it is possible. If you can't trust anyone that has ever lied to you about something, big or small then you probably don't communicate with many people whether it be friends or family

Can you honestly say that you have never told a lie to anyone whether it be big or small? If you have, think about one of those more serious lies then think about the reason you lied to that person. Should you have lied to that person? Should that person never trust you again, because of that lie?

I think it is safe to say that probably have lied to someone about something at one time in life, whether it was to keep yourself out of trouble or protect someones feelings. Yes it is wrong, but lying doesn't make you a bad person for the rest of your life.

To be completely honest with you. In my mind it was over and convincing myself to even give her another chance was very, very difficult. I definately wouldn't say that it was an impulse move to let her come back home. As a matter of fact, she still hasn't moved her stuff back in yet. The only thing she has here is a bag of clothes and it's been a month. Hell, we are still sleeping on a blowup air mattress. I'm not rushing into anything. I do know though, that I have to work on myself and hope that she is doing what she knows is right. I can't change anyone but myself.

As for just letting her go.. Who is to say the next one will be better? Or the one after that one? I know what the one I have now is capable of, I can only hope that she wants to be with me as much as she says she does.

Nothing against you Steve, it sounds to me that you have personal issues with relationships that you need to workout with yourself. I don't know you, or your history so I'm not trying to judge you, I'm just being honest.

I've seen people rebuild marriages and relationships from situations much worse then what I'm going through. I would have rather tried and failed, then never have tried at all.

[nonovurbizniz]

^ You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders.

I agree with you, however don't think I could over come that.

I have had trust issues with my wife for quite a while (she introduced herself as 23 or 24 when she was 27 or 28 and didn't tell me for almost a year. (INCLUDING a birthday where I gave her a card with an incorrect age on it)).

I feel VERY similarly to you... at one point my wife WAS a FANTASTIC gf and wife... and I was the dick who had all sorts of issues to work out on my own. And I think that's what I'm holding onto... However I've certainly come to a point where it's pretty obvious she's just not trying... Now I don't know if that's because she has her own demons to deal with before she can commit to making the relationship work or if she just doesn't have interest in making it work... but it's getting old.

Same time I COMPLETELY agree with you about leaving it to her to prove herself... and not in a high pressure way (IE she can't be proving herself 24 hrs a day everyday... some days she will be tired or in a bad mood herself) that seems to be my biggest problem at this point... I can't let all the little things go... she's not doing anything terrible but she's not trying and frankly that really hurts...

My only suggestion would be (and it is a bit extreme but frankly it's deserved)... Have a PI follow her... It will put you mind at ease and frankly I don't know how I'd manage to put mine at ease in the same situation w/o KNOWING... and there is NO way to KNOW short of having someone PROVE it.

Course I also wouldn't like the idea of sending some dude to go watch my wife at her every turn... but if she had cheated it would be that or I'd leave. That's one thing I just can't tolerate.

Cheating is about self-validation, and unfortunately keeping a relationship with the person you cheated on CAN have the EXACT same motivation. Be VERY critical of where you see her motivation coming from.

Another thing that everyone here needs to keep in mind is that she hadn't ever been with anyone else... that alone could be enough to fuel a cheat. Although satisfiing curiosity is a VERY slippery slope.

ANYWAY I've rambled enough... I truly wish you ALL the best and hope it all works out in the long run.

Keep in mind that damn near EVERYONE's parents have stories they never would or should share with their kids.

[Racing Rice]

It doesn't really matter anymore. The week before last she started acting really strange again, which caused me to get suspicious quickly. I started seeing a number come up on her cell phone that said Incoming call from her own number. I knew something was up, I just wasn't sure what. Two days in a row she came home late after getting off of work fairly early. Both of those days I saw the same thing, Incoming Call from her number.

I called Cingular and they told me that, that means it is a blocked or unlisted number. I called her and confronted her about it, she insisted nothing was going on and she wasn't talking to anyone. Then she said "It's just a friend". I fucking lost it. I didn't even care anymore. I told her to pack her shit up and get the hell out and I didn't want to see her face until the divorce.

So, here we are.. A week and a half later and I'm happier then ever! I don't miss her at all. I was so fed up with the bullshit and the games I was stressed out over just about everything. It's so nice going and hanging out with whoever the hell I want, and living a stress free life again. I sleep well at night, knowing that I gave it my 110%.

[Robert]

One a cheater always a cheater....

It's probably best this way anyways. good effort and i'm sorry for your marriage. be thankful there were no kids yet.

[Racing Rice]

Yup, for sure.. It is definately the best for me. I've been enjoying myself and my freedom lately. Going out with friends having a good time. I forgot how much fun it was just to go out and hit on girls that you don't know. Oh, and I've found a whole new respect for alcohol. :D

[Wren57]

Gotta agree with the "once a cheater, always a cheater" comment. I have much respect for you forgiving her once but not again; I once went with the 3-strikes-out rule and it was much harder than if I had just kicked her out after the first or second time. Good to hear you're enjoying time out with friends... getting boozed up and hitting on boozed up girls is what I enjoy most. :)

[Racing Rice]

I'm trying to get Addict to hook me up with some of his wife's stripper friends. :D Just to say I did. ;)

Another friend said he will take me up to OSU one of these weekends and show me what real easy party girls are like :D

[KwikR6]

I'm trying to get Addict to hook me up with some of his wife's stripper friends. :D Just to say I did. ;)

Another friend said he will take me up to OSU one of these weekends and show me what real easy party girls are like :D
Dude. I honestly hope everything works out for you! You are a great guy and deserve the best. Have fun, and enjoy the booze;)

[Racing Rice]

Dude. I honestly hope everything works out for you! You are a great guy and deserve the best. Have fun, and enjoy the booze;)

Haha.. Thanks bro.. I'm loving the alcohol. :bow:

[Mischief]

Haha.. Thanks bro.. I'm loving the alcohol. :bow:
amen to that.. i'm boozing right along with you man. women suck, that's why we like them though.

[Racing Rice]

I have dumbbell curls to keep me busy during the week and 16 ounce curls for the weekend.

[KwikR6]

I have dumbbell curls to keep me busy during the week and 16 ounce curls for the weekend.
You should soon get into the 40oz curls soon.

[Racing Rice]

You should soon get into the 40oz curls soon.

I do 42 ounce curls when I got to Mexican Resturaunt. :D

Hey, what do you guys think? I'm suppose to have a date with this chick in the next few weeks. She's a nurse and a Country Music promoter that rides ATVs and has a kickass attitude towards stuff.

[Mischief]

um.. hit it

[Racing Rice]

Haha. We'll see what happens. I've know her for years, but I haven't talked to her for probably 8 or so. I sent her a message yesterday, and she gave me her number. I guess she was married for two years and her husband cheated on her too.

[GT40FIED]

um.. hit it

Hmmm....couldn't hurt

[KwikR6]

Hmmm....couldn't hurt
x10

DO it man. Go out and have fun. Whatcha gotta lose?

[Racing Rice]

x10

DO it man. Go out and have fun. Whatcha gotta lose?


Notta damn thing at this point. :D The only thing I had was my sanity, and thats been gone for a while.

[KwikR6]

Notta damn thing at this point. :D The only thing I had was my sanity, and thats been gone for a while.
Exactly. THat's what I said when I broke up with my ex. I was trying to be the nice guy then I found out she was with another dude. So I was like fuck it. I'm going out. And I did...met some amazing people and women also.

[Racing Rice]

Indeed.. We went to a new local bar this weekend.. Some how, I ended up dancing with out Waitress. ;)

[KwikR6]

Indeed.. We went to a new local bar this weekend.. Some how, I ended up dancing with out Waitress. ;)
That's my boy jer!

[Addict]

I'm trying to get Addict to hook me up with some of his wife's stripper friends. :D Just to say I did. ;)

Another friend said he will take me up to OSU one of these weekends and show me what real easy party girls are like :D

She won't give me their numbers. I think she thinks I'd call 'em. :D You just need to got the Pearl with us. I'm tellin' ya. Girl on girl action with minimal investment in alcohol.

You know OSU is the place... Like Eazy E said "college girls are easy"....

[Racing Rice]

I told you bro.. Just tell me when, I'm all up for causing some girl on girl fun no matter what the cost of alcohol is! :bow:

Well guys.. I have a date with the chick I posted a picture of tonight! :yup:

[KwikR6]

I told you bro.. Just tell me when, I'm all up for causing some girl on girl fun no matter what the cost of alcohol is! :bow:

Well guys.. I have a date with the chick I posted a picture of tonight! :yup:
Hey good luck bro
Tell us how it goes.

[Racing Rice]

Dude, it was a fvcking blast.. She has to be the coolest chick I've ever met. It's funny as hell because she's almost like hanging out with one of the guys. We had a really good time and I'm running on 2.5 hours of sleep today. :D

[KwikR6]

Dude, it was a fvcking blast.. She has to be the coolest chick I've ever met. It's funny as hell because she's almost like hanging out with one of the guys. We had a really good time and I'm running on 2.5 hours of sleep today. :D
2.5 Hours of sleep....That almost leads me to believe something happened. But I won't come to that conclusion until you say otherwise ;)

[Racing Rice]

We just messed around.. I had to leave her wanting more.. ;)

[Addict]

We just messed around.. I had to leave her wanting more.. ;)
:lickmah: :cuddle:

[KwikR6]

:lickmah: :cuddle:
x2!

I messed around with my hand last night :(

[Racing Rice]

x2!

I messed around with my hand last night :(

Sorry to hear that bro...

Oh, I forgot to mention.. She was a gymnist for 17 years.. She's REALLY flexible.. :bow:

[KwikR6]

Sorry to hear that bro...

Oh, I forgot to mention.. She was a gymnist for 17 years.. She's REALLY flexible.. :bow:
Nah my hand and I are tiiiiite!
We've been together for quiet sometime now. Can't see us breaking up anytime soon.

Ahhh gymnist's. LOVE"EM

[Mischief]

gymnasts cheerleaders and dancers.. gods gift to us.

[GT40FIED]

Gymnasts FTW!!!

Does she know Gymkata?:D (No one will get that...search IMDB)

[Racing Rice]

gymnasts cheerleaders and dancers.. gods gift to us.


I'll have to second this notion.. The only thing I want to say is... OMG, Thank you! :bow:

[ebpda9]

so i guess she worked out the pole pretty good then :D

[Racing Rice]

so i guess she worked out the pole pretty good then :D


Umm... I think I'll plead the 5th on this one. :flick: :nana:

[fertooos]

Man, sorry to hear about this... I always thought everything was going smooth in your married world, but I guess not.

[susu]

Please calm down,bro.