Who believes...

[GT40FIED]

Who here believes in UFOs and other crazy non-earth shit? Furthermore, does the government know and intentionally keep it a secret? For me, the answer to both is a resounding yes. But then again I think conspiracy theories kick much ass. But here's what I wonder...are the people who keep these secrets justified in doing so? Most people will automatically assume that the public would handle such information well...but I'm not so sure. Think about it, a person can be smart...but people are panicky and illogical so who knows what the hell some morons would do if you smacked them in the face with a realization like that? Your thoughts?

[CD5Passion]

Honestly I wouldn't doubt something of that nature
when my father was in the airforce, he worked a radar site somewhere in colorado on some mountains. during a night of keeping an eye on the radars him and a few others noticed that there was something large on the radar. he told me they went outside to see what in the world it could be but they didn't see or hear anything. The next morning him and his ..(sitemates?) told their commanding officer about what they saw on the radar. Soon after apparently the CO told them all "it was nothing, forget you even saw it"

my dad told me this once when we were speaking about extraterrestrial life and the possibility there of. i found it very very interesting

you know if aliens ever contacted us that half the world would spaz the fuck out. still a lot of people that think we are particularly special and that god made us and only us. guess we'll only have to see huh

[Mischief]

I think there are just waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many possibilities for life NOT to exist somewhere else.. Do I believe these beings have visited our planet? Quite possibly, but nobody knows for sure unless it's under tight wraps..I just find it hard to believe with the millions and millions of stars and planets orbiting them that there can't be a planet just like ours out there somewhere..

[thermal]

I believe that shit. I've never seen a UFO but my ex- claims she did. She doesnt ever talk about weird stuff like that but one day when i visited her home town in Maine, out of nowhere she started talking about it, as we were going through the supposed to be location of the incident. She looked really freaked out. She didnt want to talk about it ever again after mentioning it to me.....

As far as non-earth shit.... I believe in ghost and spirit stuff tho based off experience....:yikes:

[CD5Passion]

Originally posted by thermalfi'd16

As far as non-earth shit.... I believe in ghost and spirit stuff tho based off experience....:yikes:
let's hear it bro, I love the paranormal shit haha

sometimes freaky things happen that just can't be explained i know I've seen some weird shit

also something i just tought about, do you think maybe when the first man came to be and founded a religion..think maybe "god" was an "alien"
that what they worshipped as a being that lives in the sky is not actually of this earth?..just alittle food for thought

[Mischief]

Originally posted by thermalfi'd16
She doesnt ever talk about weird stuff like that but one day when i visited her home town in Maine, out of nowhere she started talking about it, as we were going through the supposed to be location of the incident. Don't say that shit dude you get me freakin' out now.. I keep looking at my blinds covering my windows now.. Someone hold me ;(

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by Gosei_Passion
also something i just tought about, do you think maybe when the first man came to be and founded a religion..think maybe "god" was an "alien"
that what they worshipped as a being that lives in the sky is not actually of this earth?..just alittle food for thought

I don't know about that man...but I do believe certain things in the bible were other-worldly i.e. firery chariots, certain kinds of angels. Let's face it...these people weren't exactly hi-tech.

And Mischief...no.

[CD5Passion]

Originally posted by GT40FIED
I don't know about that man...but I do believe certain things in the bible were other-worldly i.e. firery chariots, certain kinds of angels. Let's face it...these people weren't exactly hi-tech.


who are we speaking of here as not being hitech? the "biblical" creatures or the beleivers?

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by Gosei_Passion
who are we speaking of here as not being hitech? the "biblical" creatures or the beleivers?

The subjects of the stories.

[CD5Passion]

ok so you're saying that what these people saw were perceived as flaming chariots and such? when in fact they could have been ...well ufo's per say

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by Gosei_Passion
ok so you're saying that what these people saw were perceived as flaming chariots and such? when in fact they could have been ...well ufo's per say

Exactly. I've got nothing to back it up...but it's certainly a possibility.

[IALuder]

i think we are an ant farm actually. there some bigger creature keeping us a pets.:yes:

[GT40FIED]

I still think the best "proof" that we've been visited by beings more advanced than our pitiful selves is the ancient Sumarians. Roughly 4000 years ago they had detailed maps of our solar system. Most of us couldn't even see other planets until the 15th or 16th cerntury. There's almost no way these people could've had this information without the help of some higher intelligence. If that is indeed the case, then it disturbs me that the Sumarian calender and the Mayan calender both end on the same day in the same year. I forget the exact day, but it's some time in April, 2012. I believe April 17th, 2012. Why plan thousands of years in advance unless it means something?

[Wren57]

I will be shocked if this planet makes it to 2012.

[IALuder]

^yup.

[CD5Passion]

Originally posted by GT40FIED
I still think the best "proof" that we've been visited by beings more advanced than our pitiful selves is the ancient Sumarians. Roughly 4000 years ago they had detailed maps of our solar system. Most of us couldn't even see other planets until the 15th or 16th cerntury. There's almost no way these people could've had this information without the help of some higher intelligence. If that is indeed the case, then it disturbs me that the Sumarian calender and the Mayan calender both end on the same day in the same year. I forget the exact day, but it's some time in April, 2012. I believe April 17th, 2012. Why plan thousands of years in advance unless it means something?

i heard something along those lines back in my western humanities class last semester. but i never really put much though to it. but it is an interesting point.

[GT40FIED]

Yeah...Einstein touched on it, too. Something about a harmonic convergance (all of the planets lining up exactly) during that year. Supposedly that would throw off gravity and fuck up our christmas. Will it happen? I don't know. Would it suck? You betcha.

[pdiggitydogg]

With the utter size of the universe as a whole, there is no question that there is other life out there. I don't even doubt that there is life that is intelligent.
But going along with the sheer size of the universe, its unlikely that any of these species will ever contact physically. Unless one has some space/time folding device like in Event Horizon (movie kicks ass), I don't ever see it happening before the sun dies and our planet (and people if we don't expand beyond the solar system) is burnt to nothingness

[CD5Passion]

but given the sun most likely wont begin to expand to a red giant for a few millions or even billions of years. at least that's what i would hope lol.
but I'm sure some life form out there has found a way to utilize something like a worm hole.
and one thing that gets me is the fact that people say planets such as maybe jupiter or hell even venus is unable to sustain life. when we view another planets chances of harboring life we look for something that's similiar to our own atmosphere. what says life can exist in such a place like venus? it would just be vastly different from our own, right?

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by Gosei_Passion
but given the sun most likely wont begin to expand to a red giant for a few millions or even billions of years. at least that's what i would hope lol.
but I'm sure some life form out there has found a way to utilize something like a worm hole.
and one thing that gets me is the fact that people say planets such as maybe jupiter or hell even venus is unable to sustain life. when we view another planets chances of harboring life we look for something that's similiar to our own atmosphere. what says life can exist in such a place like venus? it would just be vastly different from our own, right?

This is true. If we want to explore the idea of other life forms we have to be willing to accept the possibility that it may not be life as we've come to know it. Hell, not too long ago worms were discovered in the ocean living off of methane. They ONLY lived in methane bursts from the ocean floor. Nobody thought that life forms could exist in such an environment...sub-zero temperatures in methane. If we didn't see that coming, what else have we ignored?

[CD5Passion]

I just find it very hard to beleive that something doens't live on venus or Jupiter.... well any other planet with an atmosphere which is like...what...all but 3 planets? (Mercury, Mars, Pluto don't have much of an atmosphere correct?)

also i think I heard somewhere that venus may very well be what Earth was like in the beginning, very chaotic

[pdiggitydogg]

I doubt things live on jupiter because of the massive gravity, distance from the sun, and the fact that its gas.
If we're ever going to find living life, in our solar system, its going to be on a planet's moon, like those of Saturn.
No one is ever going to convince NASA to look for things different than our own life and its requirements. They're too stubborn.

[ebpda9]

according to us govt i am an alien ;)

but seriously i doubt there is no other form of life on other planets. And yeah i beleive that the UFO's are real and we are being visited. and for the govt coverups it's just so peoplewon't panic, or get like a mass hysteria like the end of the world is near.

[CD5Passion]

haven't they discovered ice on one of jupiters moons? think they were saying it'd be the next place we could possibly settle? just gotta pollute the bejeebus out of it so we could thicken the atmosphere
:o

[pdiggitydogg]

Were you referring to moons? I know that titan has frozen liquid methane.
The main thing with atmosphere production is gravity. The size of a moon would need to be at least similar to that of mars itself in order for a thick atmosphere of what we need for survival to even stay put. If we're talking about moving anyway.

[CD5Passion]

yeah Titan i couldn't remember the name. I'm doubting that we'll even see humans traveling even that far in our lifetimes.

[pdiggitydogg]

probably not, no.

A bit of a side question:
Does anyone else think that it is possible to excede light speed, without folding? I know its common for everyone to say that light is the comsic limit...but we used to say that we'd never excede the speed of sound. Theoretically, there are tiny molecules associated w/ string theory that travel faster than light.

[Wren57]

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
And yeah i beleive that the UFO's are real and we are being visited. and for the govt coverups it's just so peoplewon't panic, or get like a mass hysteria like the end of the world is near.

I am Agent W. Look directly into the light.

*puts on sunglasses*

*FLASH*

There is no intelligent life beyond Earth. You were merely delusional and temporarily subjected to chaotic propoganda. You are gonna go buy a Stuff Magazine and read it, find a hot girl and get a good job. You will be a materialistic capitalist, and you will be blissfully happy due to your ignorance. Have a nice day

[CD5Passion]

Originally posted by highlander
I am Agent W. Look directly into the light.

*puts on sunglasses*

*FLASH*

There is no intelligent life beyond Earth. You were merely delusional and temporarily subjected to chaotic propoganda. You are gonna go buy a Stuff Magazine and read it, find a hot girl and get a good job. You will be a materialistic capitalist, and you will be blissfully happy due to your ignorance. Have a nice day
:confused: what?:confused:

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by Gosei_Passion
:confused: what?:confused:

Men In Black reference.

[CD5Passion]

:o i knew that I wasn't sure if he was trying to show his opinion through it tho

[Racing Rice]

Originally posted by GT40FIED
Who here believes in UFOs and other crazy non-earth shit?

I'm somewhat neutral on this point. From one side of it, I have a hard time believing in stuff I can't or haven't seen. That goes for pretty much everything. However, on the other side of it I don't doubt that it is completely possible for there to be other forms of life out there.

I'd love to actually meet one. :D

I was watching something on Crop Circles, and Area 51 the other day. It's interesting stuff for sure.

[IALuder]

man, crop circles. bring back a memory. here in IA someone reported a crop circle that ended up being teens out fawkin around. the crop circle that was actaully a penis. :D:D

[Mischief]

:D :D :D :toofunny:

[ChrisCantSkate]

i actually took a class that was 90% based on this, and these ideas. basically i believe that there is something else out there that is alive.

now when and where is the huge question. we as humans have been around for a very short amount of time in the huge picture of the universe. the probobility of it alone is against there being nothing else out there. if there are lets say 10,000,000,000 stars (i think its closer to 40-50 billion, but you'll get the point) and .01% of those have planets(which from what the prof was saying is much higher but to be conservative it works) and .01% of those have planets with atmospheres(another under estimate), and .01% of those planets spawn some sort of life and .01% of those have evolved to intellegent life. thats 100 planets with some sort of intellegent life. now the problem becomes we as humans have just in the past 50-60 years or so evolved to "intellegent life" in the sence of being able to communicate and travel beyond our atmosphere, and we can bairly do that. so now spead across the entire universe you can safely assume that there is/was 100 or so civilizations(who came about from their own evolution, not colinolizing) capable of space communication and travel, spread out over billions of years and almost just as many light years.

[GT40FIED]

I heard some guy the other day saying that the idea of aliens was heretical and god created us and ONLY us. My immediate thought? "What the fuck?". So he just threw the rest of that shit out there to impress us? Last I checked omnipresent supergalactic beings didn't need the approval of a bunch of psychotic apes. Oh...he also claimed that shows like Futurama were against god because by that time rapture will surely have occured. The human race: leading the universe in being arrogant dicks since 8,000 B.C.

[Racing Rice]

Originally posted by GT40FIED
I heard some guy the other day saying that the idea of aliens was heretical and god created us and ONLY us. My immediate thought? "What the fuck?". So he just threw the rest of that shit out there to impress us? Last I checked omnipresent supergalactic beings didn't need the approval of a bunch of psychotic apes. Oh...he also claimed that shows like Futurama were against god because by that time rapture will surely have occured. The human race: leading the universe in being arrogant dicks since 8,000 B.C.

I suppose that he was a "professional" in this field too. People are such wankers. I don't get how you can argue an idea that you can't prove.:rolleyes:

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by Racing Rice
I suppose that he was a "professional" in this field too. People are such wankers.

I don't know...can you be a professional in the field of dipshittery?

[Racing Rice]

Originally posted by GT40FIED
I don't know...can you be a professional in the field of dipshittery?

Well I think so... There seem to be an awful lot of them floating around if not. :confused:

[Wren57]

FRAUDS!

[CD5Passion]

crop circles are frauds thats for sure. hell all you need are 2 peices of rope, and a plank of wood

but what Chris said makes sense. Homosapien sapiens have only been on this earth for an estimate of 15,000 years. I mean...hell dinosaurs existed for something like 200 million years.
(haha thats funny we've been on this earth for 15,000 years and we're already worrying about destroying our own world...man what were those dinosaurs doing right?)
but seriously some sort of life has to have to ability to reach at the least their end of the galaxy by now, I would just think it be naive to even think otherwise:cool:

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by Gosei_Passion
crop circles are frauds thats for sure. hell all you need are 2 peices of rope, and a plank of wood

Well...many are, but there are some that I just don't think people could pull off. I mean...they're geometrically perfect, sometimes slightly radioactive, and often have no visible signs of people coming and going. Besides...the complexity of some of them are well beyond some dipshit punk who's looking to screw around.

[Kyle]

maybe its a dipshit genius screwing around?

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by Kyle
dipshit genius

Isn't that a bit antithetical?

[pdiggitydogg]

No its about right, if you ask most of the people who happen to be "experts in their field" when it comes to this.

I'm also on board the thought that we aren't very advanced. Hell, if the dinosaurs didn't die out, they'd be the ones who evolved, not us. It'd be like that old 80's cartoon Dinosaucers

[Kyle]

remember that show "Dinosaurs."
that would be totally awesome if we didn't exist and it was just dinosaurs on the planet living like us.
"not the mama"
and GT. I'm a genius according to my IQ...but my parents still call me a dipshit...:|

[GT40FIED]

Oh I'm not saying many of them aren't hoaxes. I'm just saying that I think some of them are genuine. No matter how smart you are, it's hard to leave radioactivity behind all by yourself.

[CD5Passion]

but the thing is there was a 2 person team who went out and did these crop circle, The Discovery Channel did something on them awhile back, they planned and mapped out exactly they wanted to made sure measures we accurate and went out and did this. it was a well put together fraud.
but nonetheless I won't completely say that all of them are frauds, who the hell knows ha

[MissJDM]

Man, this stuff drives in insane going back and forth with myself. I've watched plenty of informative Crop Circles episodes on TV and I too always thought it was one of those "conspiracies." However, I definitely agree with Steve on it possibly being real seeing how their geometrically even. Seriously, eliminate everything and what else could handle that? What machine does that?

UFOs, I've never seen one. I can't exactly say I believe there is a possibility of life outside of "us," because in my mind I wanna say there IS. Does that make sense? What I'm stating now has already been mentioned..but, I don't understand how people can think after everything we've been through and all of those "other" planets, why couldn't there be other life? I don't know about us being "visited" by them, but why the hell shouldn't there be life elsewhere? Man, this stuff makes my mind boggle.

Life after death. I picture just seeing a black hole. When I lay down to rest at night, I sometimes close my eyes tightly and wonder if that's what I "see" after this lifetime.

[ChrisCantSkate]

crop circles are BS. if they have space ships and can fly from across the universe they can mark an area with something a bit more sophisticated than some markings in a crop field. hell even we can use a GPS system to not need markings everywhere telling us where we are.

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
crop circles are BS. if they have space ships and can fly from across the universe they can mark an area with something a bit more sophisticated than some markings in a crop field. hell even we can use a GPS system to not need markings everywhere telling us where we are.

Ahhhh...but what if it's for the purpose of communication?

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by GT40FIED
Ahhhh...but what if it's for the purpose of communication?

they dont last very long, us humans tear them down. after a few get destroyed they would realize that the master speices of the planet is on to them and would use a different way of leaving a message.

the only jsutification i can come to in my head is they are just fucking with us, and get humor out of seeing us freak out over some marks on the ground. the crop designs are just too primative for such an advanced civilization.

[Wren57]

It can't be for communication. Think about it.

I am part of an alien species that can travel light years in spaceships, enter a planet populated by 6,000,000,000 humans and not be noticed, and leave marks on the ground. I think if they can do all that, and wanted to communicate, they could learn English...

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by highlander
It can't be for communication. Think about it.

I am part of an alien species that can travel light years in spaceships, enter a planet populated by 6,000,000,000 humans and not be noticed, and leave marks on the ground. I think if they can do all that, and wanted to communicate, they could learn English...

Well if they were that intelligent I would hope they would realize the futility and possible danger of direct communication. Besides...geometry is universal. Somehow I doubt there's an english as a second language course for aliens. Besides...if you REALLY didn't want to be noticed would you leave your mark somewhere in Bumblescum, Arkansas (I know...most of them happen in England/Scotland/Ireland...but you get the point) or in downtown NYC? At least that's how they'd play it if they were smart and had done their homework. You can't keep an eye on the human race and not know our tendencies towards violence.

[AzCivic]

so why would direct communication be any worse than just confusing the hell out of everyone? if we got a real signal, there's plenty of ways to do it, I highly doubt there'd be mass chaos with people freaking out and world leaders launching nuclear weapons in random directions.

and if they can travel across the galaxy I'm 100% sure they could just listen in on some tv signal and figure out our language w/ out an "Idiots guide for Aliens who want to learn English" book.

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by GT40FIED
Well...many are, but there are some that I just don't think people could pull off. I mean...they're geometrically perfect, sometimes slightly radioactive, and often have no visible signs of people coming and going. Besides...the complexity of some of them are well beyond some dipshit punk who's looking to screw around.

did anyone test these areas for the slight radiation they probably found before there were circles? and how are you gonna look for signs of people coming and going? unless there's mud it'd be really hard.

some people have nothing better to do than spend years planning stupid crap like this, so they have plenty of time to think up anything thats possible.

[Racing Rice]

We had a crop circle happen not to far from where I live. My friends actually stopped by and talked to the Lady that owned the field. I'm sure that some of them are man made, but I have a hard time believing that all of them are. Who knows for sure though.

http://www.iwasabducted.com/cropcircles/bainbridgeoh100103.jpg

Link to the site:
http://www.iwasabducted.com/cropcircles/bainbridgeoh100103.htm

[CD5Passion]

hopefully if we were smart enough we wouldn't blow a alien craft out of the sky. I mean think about it. how smart would it be for us to blow a spacecraft that traveled the universe from the sky? hell we couldn't defend ourselves from an armada of alien cruisers, we'd be totally fucked haha

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by Gosei_Passion
hopefully if we were smart enough we wouldn't blow a alien craft out of the sky. I mean think about it. how smart would it be for us to blow a spacecraft that traveled the universe from the sky? hell we couldn't defend ourselves from an armada of alien cruisers, we'd be totally fucked haha

Man...it took me a minute to stop laughing there. Bwahahahahahaha. Human beings....smart....:D:D:D

[AzCivic]

we couldnt do anything anyway, all they'd have to do is sit just out of reach and talk through one of the many signals available. so no, i'm sure they would not be afraid of being killed.

[CD5Passion]

if in the one millionth of a chance it happened, I'd just sit back and laugh at our demise

[Kyle]

What i don't understand is why everybody thinks that if there was aliens they would be some superior beings...maybe they're just as smart or a lot dumber than us?...explain

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by Kyle
What i don't understand is why everybody thinks that if there was aliens they would be some superior beings...maybe they're just as smart or a lot dumber than us?...explain

Well...the obvious conclusion one might jump to is that if they've mastered intergalactic travel, they're at least a wee bit smarter than us. This is why I'm a little cautious of assuming why they do what they do (if they indeed do anything at all).

Also, am I the only one who thinks the government really shafted us on the whole Roswell thing? I'm not saying it was a UFO that landed...but c'mon. A weather balloon? Apparently government think tanks can't lie as good as I do.

[CD5Passion]

assuming this race could travel through space. they either A) have been existing a LOT longer than we and therefore have obtain much for knowledge or B) Have been existing just as long as us and are just smart enough to figure something out.
you don't see us up there traveling galaxies in search to contact others. no we're sitting here with a few space stations and a shuttle which we are afraid to put into space..what was the last big thing? the mars landing? how long ago was that?
use this to compare
...a man of 11,000 years ago walks up to you and threatens you with a .....club or a rock
then you pull a m16 out and burn some holes in him....who would you say is superior?
the man with the rock or the man with the gun?
although it's a rather Horrible analogy do you get the point?

[CD5Passion]

Originally posted by GT40FIED
Well...the obvious conclusion one might jump to is that if they've mastered intergalactic travel, they're at least a wee bit smarter than us. This is why I'm a little cautious of assuming why they do what they do (if they indeed do anything at all).

Also, am I the only one who thinks the government really shafted us on the whole Roswell thing? I'm not saying it was a UFO that landed...but c'mon. A weather balloon? Apparently government think tanks can't lie as good as I do.
and why would the government be dealing with a weatherballoon? wouldn't it be some freelance weather researched organization or something?

[Kyle]

well, obviously they haven't "mastered" it...or else we'd probably know a bit more about them. Maybe space travel is just their forte and we are more advanced than them in other areas?(if that's even possible)

[CD5Passion]

.....haha Kyle I would thinl if they were able to put together an engine that could work so efficiently as to put them in space and travel I'd think they'd have some nice weapons or computers or whatever

plus we have no idea how large the universe is....they could have colonized hundreds of planets and be nowhere near us

[Kyle]

don't laugh man, i was just putting a different possibility out there.

[GT40FIED]

Once again, I gotta say, I'm not about to even try and question the motives of a race that could master intergalactic travel.

But here's one for all of the doubters and nay-sayers. If we in fact aren't being visited, then what are all of those crazy things popping up on home videos across the world? Crazy balls of light that move in obviously deliberate fashions and then zoom off at speeds rivaled only by a bone stock Civic.:D If anyone says swamp gas so help me...

Crazy video on Ebaumsworld (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=ufosighting.wmv)

[Kyle]

pretty cool vid...i certainly do believe in life outside our world...i just wish we knew more about it...as i'm sure everyone else does too.

[AzCivic]

that shit looked like a model rocket, whoopty do.

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by Gosei_Passion
and why would the government be dealing with a weatherballoon? wouldn't it be some freelance weather researched organization or something?


the government puts out crap loads of weather balloons.

each of the places on this map: http://weather.unisys.com/upper_air/skew/

put them out every 12hours. there's some places that don't show up on that map for some reason.

I thought the excuse was some kind of high altitude listening device that was meant to listen for atomic testing by other countries.

[CD5Passion]

i heard weather balloon??:confused:
too
thanks for the clarifcation btw AZ

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by Gosei_Passion
i heard weather balloon??:confused:
too
thanks for the clarifcation btw AZ

I've heard both. The government's story has changed over the years...so technically both would be correct. Likewise, both are complete crap.

[CD5Passion]

holy damn thzt video you posted was creazy:crazy:

[Violent Apathy]

Come on doesn't anyone watch the simpsons? While aliens may have mastered space travel their video games are only as advanced as pong. ;)

[CD5Passion]

and if thats the case, then I'm damn sure they're superior to us because they don't waste their time playing video games all day like I

[Kyle]

I'll use my Halo skills to blow their asses up...lol

[CD5Passion]

hah riiiiiiiight

[Violent Apathy]

Yes the more people that play halo 2 the better, that way everyone will have training with plasma weapons to fight off the eventual alien invasion. :pfft:

[MissJDM]

This somehow reminds me of the movie I rented last night, The Forgotten. Has anyone seen it? The entire beginning of the movie, I thought it was some governemt conspiracy.

As to the threads, I still don't understand how any of the crop circles can be man made..especially in someones back yard and not be noticed.

[CD5Passion]

because those "backyards" are absolutly huge and usually has at least 3 roads right against it

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by MissJDM
As to the threads, I still don't understand how any of the crop circles can be man made..especially in someones back yard and not be noticed.

Well...they're usually in huge fields rather than backyards. Some man-made ones are really great...but they take a hell of a lot of time and precision. I don't care how well you plan out your design, it's always hard for a person to make a perfect circle without some sort of mechanical aid.

[MissJDM]

That's what I'm saying..everything is so perfect, down to the last mm. However, I was notioning at the fact that there have been some crop circle in some peoples' back yards..which were fields.

[ebpda9]

Originally posted by Gosei_Passion
.....haha Kyle I would thinl if they were able to put together an engine that could work so efficiently as to put them in space and travel I'd think they'd have some nice weapons or computers or whatever

plus we have no idea how large the universe is....they could have colonized hundreds of planets and be nowhere near us


ummm, maybe you haven't heard of Heron Of Alexandria then. he invented the steam engine hundred of years before it was reinvented in mind 1800's. he just never made the connection between the engine and what it was supposed to do, so he just used it as a recreational toy. also he kinda dicovered the first computer and also made some mechanical clocks that would rival with most of today's atomic clocks. Also some of his mechanical devices are still buffling engineers nowadays. think about what would have happened if he actually used his inventions more than 2000 years ago.