Why is MTV on a pro-gay crusade?

[Wren57]

I swear, this is really getting under my skin. I watch MTV from time to time when they are actually playing music videos, but I can't stand the fact that every 5 minutes there is an MTV news segment or a special report about how homosexuality is OK and how people that are against same-sex marriage are biggots, extreme conservatives and religous facists. It is really pissing me off because most people that watch MTV are young and impressionable, and MTV is telling them what is the right thing to believe. There is a show on right now and they did a poll:

22% of the nation supports same-sex marriages
55% of MTV viewers support same-sex marriages

Gee, wonder why. Could it possibly be that MTV constantly preaches that it is evil if you are against same-sex marriage? Don't misunderstand me, I have nothing against homosexuals; I do have something against homosexuality. I do not believe it is morally right, and think MTV is aiding in the spread of homosexuality. That said, I do have a few gay friends and I have nothing against them. I also do NOT believe that the government has the right to decide what marriage is, I think each church should decide that. The only thing the government should have to do with marriage is setting a standard for marriage benefits such as taxes, etc...

Basically MTV is really pissing me off by so obviously showing one side of the argument to be right and one side to be wrong... they are making it seem "cool" to support gay marriage and "not cool" to be against it...

:mad:

Time to turn on Fox News (yes I know they aren't fair and balanced, but they are the closest thing out there...)

[pdiggitydogg]

Because the current mtv generation (little high school kids) have been brought up to be so pc and "alternate lifestyle" accepting its ridiculous.

I cant even stand mtv anymore...all they play is "real" world and their stupid pointless reality shows. Dont even get me started on TRL......"Wooo" my ass. All that show does is tell people what music is cool...er, "tight" and to hell w/ whatever else is out there..."TRL says its good, so it must be".

F*** MTV
(Ive deleted it from my channel lineup)

[IALuder]

hahahah the real true answer is: mtv sucks the sweat off a hippos sack. i never watch that channel.

[SolPol]

Time to turn on Fox News (yes I know they aren't fair and balanced, but they are the closest thing out there...)

Dear God you are kidding aren't you Wren?

[MAXed Out]

Dude that has to be the most fucked up things they are doing right now. I dunno why they are showing it and shit. I cant stand fags never did never will so i dont understand why they are making a big deal about it and just dont let them be in their lil gay minds. It makes me throw up and pisses me off.

[ebpda9]

mtv sucked balls since i saw it the first time. aside from the gay thing, and the flashy graphics it's becoming a BET station

[GeneralDzur]

True....true...

- Dzur

[GT40FIED]

You're forgetting something Wren...most of the people against gay marriage ARE biggots. Not all, but many. I direct you to http://www.godhatesfags.com. This, I think, is partially the reason MTV stands up for gays as it does...because so many people wish them harm. Don't get me wrong, MTV is a bunch of ricockulous dipshit music-whoring bullshit...but I don't think that the fact that they think it's ok to be gay is a bad thing. Hell...I'm as straight as they come and I don't have a problem with anyone being gay. There's nothing wrong with being morally opposed to it...religion has a funny way of making you think that...but don't say someone else is wrong for thinking differently. Besides, I'd really hope the youth of America doesn't rely on MTV to choose their sexuality for them. Hell...most of us went through middle school and/or high school during a time of huge pro-gay rights issues and we all turned out just fine (I think). Bottom line? Like I tell people everyday...if you don't like it, don't watch it. I boycott it anyway because I can't stand all the retarded rap music they play NON-FUCKING-STOP!

[mylittlecivic]

:| :o

[ChrisCantSkate]

i dont have anything against mtv except they ruined the music industry. but besides that.... :rolleyes:

[KwikR6]

I don't have anything against gay people.
I do'nt have any gay friends
I don't really want any either.
I do'nt agree with gay marriges.
I thought a marrige was under the watchful eyes of god. And isn't the christian religion against homosexuality???

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by Black Del Sol
I thought a marrige was under the watchful eyes of god. And isn't the christian religion against homosexuality???
the institution of marrage was around before christanity, and is not limited to christians only. so to say that god hates homosexuals because of christianity relly isnt looking at the whole issue.

i also have no problems with gays, i have known a few, none of my friends are, but honestly if they are happy, they who does it really effect? is it going to make you (not you directly, the plural you) loose sleep over it, or change your lifestyle because 2 people of the same sex want to spend their lives together? if anythign it will help slow down the free sex of homosexuals and possibly help hinder STD's that are very common among the gay communites.

i was raised a pretty hardcore catholic, and the one thing i remeber is acceptance and forgiveness. now i dont consider myself a very religoius person but it seems a bit hypocritical in my eyes that it is being so condemed by the on faith thats primary beliefe that god loves everyone and forgives anyone who wishes to be.

[KwikR6]

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
the institution of marrage was around before christanity, and is not limited to christians only. See I never knew that. Thanks! And no I'm not being sarcastic Chris. I never knew that.

As for MTV.
It sucks ass, and I don't even get it..when ever I've seen it...it's been super bad!

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
the institution of marrage was around before christanity, and is not limited to christians only. so to say that god hates homosexuals because of christianity relly isnt looking at the whole issue.

i also have no problems with gays, i have known a few, none of my friends are, but honestly if they are happy, they who does it really effect? is it going to make you (not you directly, the plural you) loose sleep over it, or change your lifestyle because 2 people of the same sex want to spend their lives together? if anythign it will help slow down the free sex of homosexuals and possibly help hinder STD's that are very common among the gay communites.

i was raised a pretty hardcore catholic, and the one thing i remeber is acceptance and forgiveness. now i dont consider myself a very religoius person but it seems a bit hypocritical in my eyes that it is being so condemed by the on faith thats primary beliefe that god loves everyone and forgives anyone who wishes to be.

Well said Chris. I actually know quite a few gay people who I'd consider friends (my line of work brings me into contact with all sorts of folks) and I honestly don't see any difference between them and my straight friends. Most are in relationships and have been longer than any of my relationships lasted. I just think it's plain wrong to judge a person based on who they want to spend their lives with. And what's this uproar in politics all of a sudden about the "sanctity of marriage"? Sure, ideally it's an institution but it's hardly more than the punchline to a joke these days. If it was so sacred why do people get divorced by the droves? If gays wanna get married, let them get married. After all, everyone deserves a shot at divorce.

[Honda_Killa]

Isn't MTV supposed to be Music TeleVision? I hardly ever watch it anymore. Instead if I want to watch music vids I watch FUSE. But they're about to f*ck up just like MTV did. Fuse used to play videos 24/7 no commercials. Now they got commercials and DAMN talk shows. I can unerstand about some commercials because they have bills to pay and emloyees to pay, but if they're not careful we're gonna have another MTV. ;( :no:

[nonovurbizniz]

I'm all for gay marriage... obviously you can't force religious institutions to hold cerimonies for people they don't want to... but gays should be either allowed gov. sanctioned marriages or some other union that grants all the same benifits...

It's a bunch of B.S. anyone who thinks otherwise is a biggot and butting into OTHER PEOPLE LIVES... live your own life and quite worriing about what other people do...

Whether homosexuality is a ticket to hell, or dirty, or disturbing or whatever, or NOT... it doesn't F'ing matter to you unless you are personally conflicted with your own feelings... Let other people deal with their own problems...

A funny thought though that I had a while ago when having a discussion about whether homosexuality was "wrong" or not I actually lost any foundation for my own thoughts...

I was pretty sure that if "God" made you that way then so be it... it's not like a homosexual is out to harm anyone... but then it kinda popped into my head that child molesters (some) are not out to hurt anyone either... they're just attracted sexually to children... Certainly not OK in my book... and guess who made them that way... and don't say the devil made them do it...

[member]

It's because it's ran by the god damn Liberals...

MTV, BET, ABC, NBC, CBS, most of them are all controlled by Liberals. Why do you think so many of them are anti-Bush?

A lot of schools are run by Liberals as well.

They (forgot who) did a study last year when they went to the Elementary schools and asked if Bush is A) helping or B) hurting the environment. 25/27 voted B when in actual reality, Bush has helped a lot more than Clinton from the past.

It's sickening to see all of them like this. It's fair to compare the Liberals to the KKK, seriously.

People are brainwashed by the media and don't realize it...

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by member
It's because it's ran by the god damn Liberals...

MTV, BET, ABC, NBC, CBS, most of them are all controlled by Liberals. Why do you think so many of them are anti-Bush?

A lot of schools are run by Liberals as well.

They (forgot who) did a study last year when they went to the Elementary schools and asked if Bush is A) helping or B) hurting the environment. 25/27 voted B when in actual reality, Bush has helped a lot more than Clinton from the past.

It's sickening to see all of them like this. It's fair to compare the Liberals to the KKK, seriously.

People are brainwashed by the media and don't realize it...

i dont even know where to start....

*edit* i think i got it.

do you beleive in freedom? you dont act like it. you know why america is the best country? because your able to think what you want and do what you want. honestly what is wrong with gay marrage? give me one good reason. just one. religoin is not a reason, we keep church and state separate(or at least we're supposta, it is kinda a law) and why is bush so strick on gay marrage saying its sacared but the divorce rate is a joke?


oh and are you seroiusly using a poll given to elementry students on bushes impact on the environment to try and rationalize why its "the god damn liberals" fault that bush's bill on gay marrage is stiring up a controversy or did i miss something?

i really REALLY wana know how liberals compair to the KKK. the KKK from what i remeber hated certain groups of people and didnt think they had the same rights as "normal" people. (insert outlawing gay marrrage comment here)

[member]

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate

do you beleive in freedom? you dont act like it. you know why america is the best country? because your able to think what you want and do what you want. honestly what is wrong with gay marrage? give me one good reason. just one. religoin is not a reason, we keep church and state separate(or at least we're supposta, it is kinda a law) and why is bush so strick on gay marrage saying its sacared but the divorce rate is a joke?



You're asking someone who has lived in and outside of America and has experienced different cultures.

Quote me where I have expressed hatred towards gay marriage and I'll proceed upon arguing with you. Until then, don't reach for the batton.

You're asking the wrong questions to the wrong person.

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by member
You're asking someone who has lived in and outside of America and has experienced different cultures.

Quote me where I have expressed hatred towards gay marriage and I'll proceed upon arguing with you. Until then, don't reach for the batton.

You're asking the wrong questions to the wrong person.

read the title of this thread, then stay on topic. dont be that dumb. if you have a problem with something else make a new topic and i'll be glad to debate you on it.

[member]

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
read the title of this thread, then stay on topic. dont be that dumb. if you have a problem with something else make a new topic and i'll be glad to debate you on it.

Originally posted by Donegan

You're asking someone who has lived in and outside of America and has experienced different cultures.

Quote me where I have expressed hatred towards gay marriage and I'll proceed upon arguing with you. Until then, don't reach for the batton.

You're asking the wrong questions to the wrong person.

[ChrisCantSkate]

you have completly lost me. i have no idea why you quoted both of us, and see no relevence in any of it. you started off blaming "it" (which would be gay marrage as "it" is a pronoun refering to the origional topic of this thread) on the god damn liberals then started saying hell knows what about 5 year olds thinking bush is ruining the environment then making KKK references to the liberals. hoestly take a debate class or something. learn how to structure an argument then present valid points. you have completely brought the level of this thread down.

you really should look into becoming a public speaker, great at dodging issues and bringing up useless facts that dont really support anything but sound like they mean something.

[member]

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
you have completly lost me. i have no idea why you quoted both of us, and see no relevence in any of it. you started off blaming "it" (which would be gay marrage as "it" is a pronoun refering to the origional topic of this thread) on the god damn liberals then started saying hell knows what about 5 year olds thinking bush is ruining the environment then making KKK references to the liberals. hoestly take a debate class or something. learn how to structure an argument then present valid points. you have completely brought the level of this thread down.

you really should look into becoming a public speaker, great at dodging issues and bringing up useless facts that dont really support anything but sound like they mean something.

Profound mental retardation or plain ignorance?

Where's the challenge in this when you're the same as every other idiot?

Give me 1 good reason on why I should waste my time with you arguing. Make it a good one.

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by member
Profound mental retardation or plain ignorance?

Where's the challenge in this when you're the same as every other idiot?

Give me 1 good reason on why I should waste my time with you arguing. Make it a good one.

dude... listen. whats the topic? did you make one valid point about anything relating to the topic once in your whole argument? i thought you tried and when i made the connection you said you didnt say anything about it. i will argue any topic you want, but for christs sake stay on topic. im not arguing your points because they are way off topic and honestly make no sence. you dont honestly think bush has helped the environment do you? theres much better things that bush has done, at least use something thats true. i really fail to see how im being the slightest bit ignorant. how about this, quote me where i was being ignorant, and make a clear statment about it. i will then defend what i said with facts and links. until then dont make vauge accusations(sp?) about me not knowing what im talking about when you havnt presented one FACT (those are what we use in arguments to support our side instead of attacking the person and not the issue: see Ad hominem)

oh and the one reason why you should waste your time? you shouldnt. obviosly you dont feel like being mature about having a civilized debate about issues that concern our country and you'd rather resort to name calling and ignoring peoples arguments and blaming everything on "the god damn liberals"

[nonovurbizniz]

Originally posted by member
It's because it's ran by the god damn Liberals...

MTV, BET, ABC, NBC, CBS, most of them are all controlled by Liberals. Why do you think so many of them are anti-Bush?

A lot of schools are run by Liberals as well.

They (forgot who) did a study last year when they went to the Elementary schools and asked if Bush is A) helping or B) hurting the environment. 25/27 voted B when in actual reality, Bush has helped a lot more than Clinton from the past.

It's sickening to see all of them like this. It's fair to compare the Liberals to the KKK, seriously.

People are brainwashed by the media and don't realize it...

You are full of sh!t.

A. MTV is owned by viacom which is in turn owned by DISNEY... disney is neither liberal or pro-gay... they're actually VERY conservative and VERY pro-censorship.
B. Bush is about as good for the environment as watering your plants with used oil is.

And you haven't made one single point other than the retarded one's you TRIED to make in this one... then you just rambled trying to look cool in 20 other posts trying to make it seem like you made sense at some point... you did not.

[ChrisCantSkate]

thankyou im glad im not the only one who failed to see any points in his posts

[GT40FIED]

Count me in on that too.

And Bush good for the environment? Are you fucking daft? He pulled out of the Kyoto treaty and wanted to drill for oil in protected wildlife preserves. Face it...he's from Texas. The only thing Texas ever did to the environment was get rid of it. I hereby declare Jenna Bush's wetlands open for public drilling.

*EDIT*
Member...after reading over your post a few times there was something there I couldn't put my finger on. Then it came to me...the rhetoric you spout sounds eerily similar to that spouted by racists and white supremacists. Now, I'm not implying that you are either, but insert the word "jew" into the sentence about the liberals running the country (right before the word "liberal", actually) and maybe throw in a "zionist" or two and it sounds dangerously close to white power rhetoric. Again...not making implications...but perhaps phrase your words better.

[SolPol]

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
You are full of sh!t.

A. MTV is owned by viacom which is in turn owned by DISNEY... disney is neither liberal or pro-gay... they're actually VERY conservative and VERY pro-censorship.
B. Bush is about as good for the environment as watering your plants with used oil is.

And you haven't made one single point other than the retarded one's you TRIED to make in this one... then you just rambled trying to look cool in 20 other posts trying to make it seem like you made sense at some point... you did not.

Minor point but Disney owns ABC/ESPN.

Viacom is a separate entity and owns CBS, MTV, VH1, Comedy Central, etc.. ad nauseum.

And Member, wow man. You are really turned around.

[SolPol]

They (forgot who) did a study last year when they went to the Elementary schools and asked if Bush is A) helping or B) hurting the environment. 25/27 voted B when in actual reality, Bush has helped a lot more than Clinton from the past.

Ahhh, the mysterious they. They talk a lot. They say a lot of things. They are never named. It's always they.

[SolPol]

Hehe, this thread should never die ;)