John Kerry is a douche bag but I'm voting for him anyway [Archive]

nonovurbizniz

05-16-2004, 11:16 PM

I'll be voting for "anyone but bush"...

I don't care if it's a monkey who likes to throw his poop..

I truely believe bush will end the world (as we know it at least).

He represents EVERYTHING wrong with america IMO. and in the opinions of just about EVERY foriegn nation/person. And electing him AGAIN would basically be spitting in the face of good reason...

He's an arogant self righteous F-tard who has NO reason, right, or business being arogant, self righteous, or alive ... IMO IMO IMO.

Wren57

05-16-2004, 11:23 PM

:D... thats what makes America great... you are entitled to your own opinion, no matter what it is... :yes:

ChrisCantSkate

05-17-2004, 11:24 AM

as much as i hate bush, i dont think kerry can get us out of this. we're dug in very deep, and switching president will really show how much shit can hit the fan.

i know very little about kerry, but everything i do know i dont like. he's just the "alternative" to bush, and thats how his campain i going.

SolPol

05-17-2004, 12:53 PM

Michael Moore had it right in 2000.

It's come to the point where we are no longer choosing between the lesser of two evils, but the evil of two lessers.

V8killimports

05-17-2004, 01:29 PM

FYI.. voting for Kerry will prolong our situation in Iraq which means more $. He will pull enough people out to not get a damn thing done, but keep enough there and spread us even thinner so as to make my life suck. In addition he's gonna wanna cut the military like a typical democratic dipshit. omfg let's not forget raise taxes.. because higher taxes help the economy. :rolleyes:

sc0rch

05-17-2004, 04:27 PM

I'm votin for nader...just because hes not bush or kerry...

Rob

05-17-2004, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
I don't care if it's a monkey who likes to throw his poop..
I thought you said that you wouldn't be voting for Bush? :confused: :D

ChrisCantSkate

05-17-2004, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by V8killimports
because higher taxes help the economy. :rolleyes:

they do when it means more government spending not putting us farther in to debt. you could either a) have really low taxes, a conservitive spending administration and hope that an open market will keep our economy alive, or b) higher taxes which means(in theory of course) more government spending, which means more jobs, which means more people make money, which means more people spending money which means more people making money which means more people spending money which means....

or we could always keep lowering the taxes, spend more money on our military, ignore our domestic problems, and blame other countries when something goes wrong.

V8killimports

05-17-2004, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
they do when it means more government spending not putting us farther in to debt. you could either a) have really low taxes, a conservitive spending administration and hope that an open market will keep our economy alive, or b) higher taxes which means(in theory of course) more government spending, which means more jobs, which means more people make money, which means more people spending money which means more people making money which means more people spending money which means....

or we could always keep lowering the taxes, spend more money on our military, ignore our domestic problems, and blame other countries when something goes wrong.

Higher taxes are a very temporary + to the economy.. lower taxes spark the economy. As for our problems at home.. typical democrat says that we should take care of our problems at home then worry about the world.. democrats need to wake the fuck up.. our problems will never go away, and you can't ignore the world. Democrats throw MY money away to things like welfare and crap like that. All that should be done away with. I rather have a raise in my pay than spend money so some fat chick can buy tons of candy with her food stamps in the walmart in memphis. What do you want.. another president like clinton? rofl Fine example of a democrat.

ChrisCantSkate

05-17-2004, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by V8killimports
Higher taxes are a very temporary + to the economy.. lower taxes spark the economy.

yes. however you need a mix of the 2. you cannot lower taxes in an already suffering economy, just like you cant raise taxes when the economy is booming. remeber what taxes pay for, schools, medicare, social security, welfare(evil evil evil), and all sorts of general stuff around the county(roads, etc) now average in spending billions on a war, while giving the rich the biggest tax cuts, then try and figure out why our economy is in the shitter. bush fucked up by not balencing his spendings. we NEEDED higher taxes to goto war. now we may need a democrate in office for 4 years just to get our finacial situation under control, because we've seen how bush deals with balencing a budject.... wait no we havnt

V8killimports

05-17-2004, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
yes. however you need a mix of the 2. you cannot lower taxes in an already suffering economy, just like you cant raise taxes when the economy is booming. remeber what taxes pay for, schools, medicare, social security, welfare(evil evil evil), and all sorts of general stuff around the county(roads, etc) now average in spending billions on a war, while giving the rich the biggest tax cuts, then try and figure out why our economy is in the shitter. bush fucked up by not balencing his spendings. we NEEDED higher taxes to goto war. now we may need a democrate in office for 4 years just to get our finacial situation under control, because we've seen how bush deals with balencing a budject.... wait no we havnt

Oh I forget... who was it that couldn't even balance the budget? And last I heard the economy was on the up.

ChrisCantSkate

05-17-2004, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by V8killimports
Oh I forget... who was it that couldn't even balance the budget? And last I heard the economy was on the up.

the economy is on the way up? awsome. i hope that it means my friends who are out of work cause of layoffs can find a job, and that the market dosnt continue to chip away at my inheritence and investments. cause i could really care less if the top 5% richest people make more money giving us the false illusion of a more stable economy, since that is what happened last time

V8killimports

05-17-2004, 05:06 PM

I have a job.. I am not rich, and my investments keep growing.. Strange....

V8killimports

05-17-2004, 05:07 PM

And to tell you the truth.. I could give a rats ass about taxes.. because I don't pay them..:no:

ChrisCantSkate

05-17-2004, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by V8killimports
I have a job.. I am not rich, and my investments keep growing.. Strange....

your in the military, no offence but anyone can get a job in the military

our unemployment hit a record low, you cannot deny that. our stock market fell extremely low you cannot deny that. im not talking about indiviual people, im talking about a society. when a major percent of our population looses their jobs because the companys need to cut down on labor due to lack of business since not as many people have the extra spending cash, or are worried about the future and want to save their earnings. that is when our economy needs help. who cares if stock A goes up on a consistant level if the whole market is slowly falling(yes i know its coming around, but in compairson to how it "should" be its down)

well... i've ranted long enough probobly didnt even amke a point, but im at a loss of thoughts

V8killimports

05-17-2004, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
your in the military, no offence but anyone can get a job in the military

Then I guess the unemployed people have a choice then don't they?

Companies lay people off to raise their value of their stocks in many cases..

Wren57

05-17-2004, 06:11 PM

Anyone can get a job any time they want to... it is just sometimes they dont WANT the jobs offered to them. Getting a job isn't hard at all, getting a job you want is the hard part. Beggars shouldn't be choosers...

nonovurbizniz

05-18-2004, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by V8killimports
FYI.. voting for Kerry will prolong our situation in Iraq which means more $. He will pull enough people out to not get a damn thing done, but keep enough there and spread us even thinner so as to make my life suck. In addition he's gonna wanna cut the military like a typical democratic dipshit. omfg let's not forget raise taxes.. because higher taxes help the economy. :rolleyes:

Bush was the one who didn't want to invest in the newest round of military technology... And I'm pretty sure he didn't want to give as much of a raise to enlisted then Gore wanted to...

And I believe Kerry has said VIGOROUSLY that he would not only FINISH what bush started in error... but he would do so with a MORE aggressive plan including MORE troops... not less...

I don't understand how it is that you (v8) manged to get EVERY ONE of your points completely backwards...

it's almost like you're just laying back on rhetoric without even bothering to think about it in the context first...

All except for the taxes... If he just repeals bush's "rich folk" tax cut... I'd be fine with that... It's not even like it benifits normal rich people all that much like traditional republican cuts... it's targetted PURELY at SUPER high income fat cats...

EVERYONE else gets screwed by bush's cuts... F him and F his dumb monkey ways.

member

05-20-2004, 09:10 PM

Bush for 2004.

Maybe I should clone myself and cast illegal votes like the Democrats.

GT40FIED

05-21-2004, 03:19 AM

Highlander- I stumbled across that site a few weeks ago and it is exactly how I feel. So long as Kerry keeps his mouth shut he should coast to victory. I honestly can't think of one Bush initiative that I agree with and his whole fucktard idea of passing a constitutional ammendment to ban gay marriage made me realize he truely is the spawn of satan. I won't vote for Nader...he's the reason we're in the shitter to begin with so he can suck it. Kerry's my only other out, so I'm taking it.

ChrisCantSkate

05-22-2004, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by member
Bush for 2004.

Maybe I should clone myself and cast illegal votes like the Democrats.

honestly man, dont even go there. bush stole florida

V8killimports

05-22-2004, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
honestly man, dont even go there. bush stole florida

lol he stole FL how?? Just shows you what kinda brilliant people you have voting (or trying to vote, and trying their hardest lol) for the democrats.

GT40FIED

05-23-2004, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by V8killimports
lol he stole FL how?? Just shows you what kinda brilliant people you have voting (or trying to vote, and trying their hardest lol) for the democrats.

I really won't get into it because it's a moot issue, but I DO find it a little odd that the whole thing came down to the state where Bush' brother just happened to be governor. That said I don't really care about Florida...enough dumbfucks around the country voted for Bush. If they hadn't, Florida wouldn't even have mattered.

V8killimports

05-23-2004, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by GT40FIED
I really won't get into it because it's a moot issue, but I DO find it a little odd that the whole thing came down to the state where Bush' brother just happened to be governor. That said I don't really care about Florida...enough dumbfucks around the country voted for Bush. If they hadn't, Florida wouldn't even have mattered.

Of course it's all a conspiracy when it comes to bush, but democrats are always by the book arrow straight :rolleyes: Clinton was a perfect example of an honest democrat.

GT40FIED

05-24-2004, 03:01 AM

Originally posted by V8killimports
Of course it's all a conspiracy when it comes to bush, but democrats are always by the book arrow straight :rolleyes: Clinton was a perfect example of an honest democrat.

Actually...nothing with Bush is a conspiracy. You see...to form a conspiracy one must have intelligence, which Bush clearly doesn't. This is indicated by his mispronunciation of common words and, on occassion, creation of new words that make no sense. As for Clinton...yes, please ignore everything he did for the country and condemn him because he got a hummer under his desk. If getting some head is such a terrible thing then most of us guys are totally screwed. Yeah, it sucks that he lied about, but show me a high level politician that hasn't lied and I'll give you a cookie. At least his lie just made him look like an adulterous dolt. Bush's lies have endangered a couple hundred thousand lives and turned a good part of the world against us. Throw that on the scales.

Kool-Aid

05-24-2004, 04:31 AM

Originally posted by GT40FIED
Actually...nothing with Bush is a conspiracy. You see...to form a conspiracy one must have intelligence, which Bush clearly doesn't. This is indicated by his mispronunciation of common words and, on occassion, creation of new words that make no sense. As for Clinton...yes, please ignore everything he did for the country and condemn him because he got a hummer under his desk. If getting some head is such a terrible thing then most of us guys are totally screwed. Yeah, it sucks that he lied about, but show me a high level politician that hasn't lied and I'll give you a cookie. At least his lie just made him look like an adulterous dolt. Bush's lies have endangered a couple hundred thousand lives and turned a good part of the world against us. Throw that on the scales.

I agree. I thought that Clinton was a good president...and all because he was human, he got dissed...