10 psi

[Midnight02]

Alrighty. I cant mod up my car for another year but my 02 EX only has 22,000 miles on it and after i save up enough money i was hoping i could put in a turbo but i am not sure if the engine would like that or not. I was only thinking of pushing 10 lbs. how much faster will my engine start crapping out with 10 lbs of boost... it would be my daily driver and i dont plan on abusing it all the time.

[cashizslick]

Well, sohc vtec motors can only handle a max of 7 - 8 psi in stock trim. I sugest that if you would like to turbo your civic, then you should buy a pre fabricated turbo kit for it (a turbo kit for your car will have all neccesarry plumbing, wires, and engine management.)

The only problem is that i dont know who makes a kit for your car . . . . . .

[pdiggitydogg]

nah there are kits starting to come out for the d17...slowly

I also say stay under 10psi...and also agree to stay around 8 or so

the first thing thats going to go is the clutch...cant get around that...you can automatically opt for a newer tougher one right off the bat though.

whatever you do, get a GOOD fuel management system like an afc or something and get it tuned...without tuning you can blow the engine at 1psi...

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

if you either do a custom turbo set up or get a turbo kit, tuning is the key....

[Midnight02]

I thought my car had a dohc... i know its pushin 127 hp but for a sohc isnt that much?? well even if i throw on a small turbo i still need an IC and a BOV right? also, whats my engine called.

[pdiggitydogg]

wow...didnt even know

youre right, you need a ic (not need but i wouldnt go w/out), bov, wastegate (which may come in the turbo or not, depending on the model...it should say), piping (you can figure that out), and a slew of reading to do...I suggest Maximum Boost by Corky Bell. Clearly, if you didnt know what engine you had, you dont know much about what youre doing (not trying to be mean, just an observation)

oh, and your engine is, as I said, a D17a2 (the a2 is only in the ex)
and yes, its 127@6300rpm...that is of course, not wheel horse power

here
D17a2:
Displacement (cc): 1668
Power (bhp@rpm): 127@6300
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 114@4400
Compression Ratio: 9.9:1
Bore (mm): 75
Stroke (mm): 94.4
Cam Design: sohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 2
Year(s) Produced: 2001+
In the following car(s): Honda Civic EX

[AzCivic]

please stop talking psi and start talking horsepower.

[cashizslick]

why?

10psi will blow his motor regaurdless of what turbo he uses.

[ebpda9]

Originally posted by AzCivic
please stop talking psi and start talking horsepower.

anywhere between 130 and 193hp @ 10psi.

[Honda_Tengoku]

its all about tuning and fuel management. D series are good for about 200 HP with the proper tuning. The fuel system would be the only thing really that I can see to keep a stock D from running 10 pounds. Of course 10 pounds is like living on the dangerous side, but I think it can be done with fuel system upgrades, and tuning.
If u want to know, ThermafiedD16 is the man to talk to when it comes to turbo D series engines.

[Midnight02]

alrighty then, I guess i was trying to set my goals too high, I will come back to turbos after i start my easier upgrades, like thicker wires, plugs, and a new intake and exhaust. i didnt realize that 10 lbs would be in the red zone for my car. i need it as reliable as i can but still be an intimidating car. your time wasnt wasted, you just helped me realize how oblivious i am with my car. thanks a lot, i need to start saving $

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by cashizslick
why?

10psi will blow his motor regaurdless of what turbo he uses.

maybe you should tell that to all the people who run that and have no problems.

[Honda_Tengoku]

Originally posted by AzCivic
maybe you should tell that to all the people who run that and have no problems.


exactly!


I know someone who runs I/H/E, clutch, with a 75 shot of Nitrous (Zex kit to be accurate), and it runs fine on a D16Z6. He estimates about 210 to 220 flywheel HP. He runs the 75 shot constantly. Yes even on the street and that engine holds up just fine. So well infact it runs 13.0's in the quarter on drag radials.

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by AzCivic
maybe you should tell that to all the people who run that and have no problems.

Those are the same people who swap out bseries motors and put in dseries ones right?

[Midnight02]

whats the difference between all the series. and what does my engine have that the others dont... can i assume the difference between the D16 and D17 is 1.6l and a 1.7l?

[cashizslick]

The D16Z6 has a tire melting 125 hp, and your motor (i believe has 127hp).

[Wren57]

bwhahaaa;)

[Shaved &/or Laid]

B stands for Badass

D stands for DooDoo

*representing*


NO IM NOT BEING SERIOUS. I intend to keep my asshole un-reamed.

you can make a D fast, just depends, worst thing about a swap is having a mystery motor. I had a bad rod in mine and im replacing the block. so dont swap unless oure advanced, really.

[Honda_Tengoku]

Originally posted by Shaved &/or Laid
B stands for Badass

D stands for DooDoo

*representing*


NO IM NOT BEING SERIOUS. I intend to keep my asshole un-reamed.

you can make a D fast, just depends, worst thing about a swap is having a mystery motor. I had a bad rod in mine and im replacing the block. so dont swap unless oure advanced, really.
'
what does the H stand for then????

[cashizslick]

^^ H = Hellafast

[AzCivic]

B stands for, BUMMER. as in bummer i spent all this cash and i'm still slow.

[pdiggitydogg]

;( its driving me nuts
Come on guys....don't start again
Why cant the other person ever just be the bigger man and ignore it? Why cant the first person not start it in the first place??

[cashizslick]

Azcivic, i would love to smoke ur slow azz D.

So what if i spent a more money than i had anticipated, ill still smoke your car.

Even if you tried to go mod for mod with me or shave now that we have swaps you'd looze.

I dont understand how swaps are a bad idea at all.

[Shaved &/or Laid]

....i threw a rod.


give me two weeks.

[Honda_Tengoku]

Originally posted by cashizslick
^^ H = Hellafast

hell ya. sounds good to me.+

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by cashizslick
Azcivic, i would love to smoke ur slow azz D.

So what if i spent a more money than i had anticipated, ill still smoke your car.

Even if you tried to go mod for mod with me or shave now that we have swaps you'd looze.

I dont understand how swaps are a bad idea at all.

you spent freakin 5k$ for like 40hp, 2 others on this small board have both had freak problems with their swaps in the last couple of months.

NOW WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!

seeing as how you dont live near here i dont see us being able to race anytime soon. so go to the track and post some times along with a video of you doing it, then i'll do the same and we'll compare.

[thermal]

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
;( its driving me nuts
Come on guys....don't start again
Why cant the other person ever just be the bigger man and ignore it? Why cant the first person not start it in the first place??
Bwa ha ha ha haa ha ....:toofunny:

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by AzCivic
you spent freakin 5k$ for like 40hp, 2 others on this small board have both had freak problems with their swaps in the last couple of months.

NOW WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!

seeing as how you dont live near here i dont see us being able to race anytime soon. so go to the track and post some times along with a video of you doing it, then i'll do the same and we'll compare.


170 hp - 125 hp = 45 more hp, and a completely stock motor to work on.

Yes, i dont see us being able to race anytime soon, but even so - your car would loose to a completely stock integra LS (you know, the BSERIES 140 hp ls motor). Im not trying to flame at all, im just trying to back up the fact that a few boltons on a D16Z6 dont do very much at all. I know you dont wanna swap your motor, but why dont you just look around junkyards stateside (like i wish I had done) for a USDM B18C or B18B.

Just for sake of argument, since i run the same if not slightly faster than a stock GSR, i think you'd still come up with the short end of the stick on that one.

Have you ever taken your car to the track? Im just wondering - i plan on going when it gets warmer up here and i will post times. Im sure i will suck my first few times, but mistakes are to learn from and it will be fun regaurdless.

[ebpda9]

yeah 5hp will make your car melt the tires or not on take off :rolleyes:, but for the 5k you could turbo a d or f series and blow the doors of a b16 civic anyday, and still have some change for rice mods.

[91d16]

Originally posted by AzCivic
B stands for, BUMMER. as in bummer i spent all this cash and i'm still slow.



I couldn't agree more. I've bought a jdm b16a and threw it in my 91 civic hatch. wasn't fast enough. stripped the car. wasn't fast enough. had to head allll redone with port/polish valve job etc etc etc etc still wasn't fast enough. sold the b16a and I was going to do a d16z6 turbo setup because I rode in my friends 91 si d16z6 turbo powered car and that thing was faster than mine. haha shitty!!!!! F U JDM!! keep your damn motors they sucks. TURBO IS THE WAY! d16z6 turbo setup owns you!

[91d16]

Originally posted by cashizslick
Azcivic, i would love to smoke ur slow azz D.

So what if i spent a more money than i had anticipated, ill still smoke your car.

Even if you tried to go mod for mod with me or shave now that we have swaps you'd looze.

I dont understand how swaps are a bad idea at all.


i'll race you ;)

[Honda_Tengoku]

D16Z6 over a B Series? Are u all freakin mad?? Sure a turbo'd D16 will beat a stock B16. Problem with a B16 is its still a damn 1.6L. I never have liked the B16's to begin with. What about a turbod B18B ??? Well a stock B18B swap will cost u about 2000 dollars (depending on where u get it from). Then u throw the turbo on the B18 on there. Hmmm. Can u say BLOW THAT D16 AWAY!!!!!

[cashizslick]

A turbo'd B16 would woop on a tubo'd B18B - not to mention totally destroying a D16Zwhatever.

[thermal]

bah... it all depends on the build-up and tuning. My friend had a tuned Z6 slightly built internals with turbo running 18 psi against a B16A2 stock internals turbo with FMU. My friend whooped the shit out of this B16A2 turbo. Both coupes.

On the other hand. I know somebody locally pushing 611whp on a built B16A2 turbo.

Really, it all depends on the efficiency and harmony of each mods/upgrade/build/management.... peace!:cool:

[cashizslick]

Ahh, harmony - that is where it is at.

Lets just leave it that you can do whatever you want to do to your car - so long as all the pieces work together properly to achieve their maximum level of perf.

[Midnight02]

a good turbo on my car would run me about how much... rough estimate... and how old is too old to throw on a turbo, like how many miles, because i cant throw on a turbo until i have my car paid off, and that will be another 3 years... so is like 65,000 miles on a D17 too many miles to start talking turbo?

[91d16]

yea but for 2000 dollars I could have a semi built turboed d16z6 vs a stock b18b. I'm not talking straight hp. I'm talking more bang for the buck.

[thermal]

Dude, I can get me a full complete swap B18B here for less than $1K. Put a junkyard turbo together for another $1K...

it doesnt really matter....... to each is own. It's about the tuning and "harmony".

Midnight, for your first turbo set-up get a kit. Have you visited the maxrev website yet? They make your kit. And yes, those turbo are bad ass. Imagine a tuned T3T04 turbo on a D17.
http://www.maxrev.com/

[91d16]

I'm sure I could find a turbo setup for about 300 dollars and a d16z6 for less than 250. but yea that's cool.

[cashizslick]

^ right

[91d16]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33742&item=2455496634

there's the kit for 500


http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=710728

Price for the motor isn't listed but if you pm him it comes with aem cam gear, motor, tranny for 300 dollars.


how bout that cashizslick :rolleyes: :cool:

and also if you want a cheaper motor I know where ones at that was boosted 6psi but he will sell for 250 dollars.

[91d16]

Originally posted by cashizslick
^ right

by the way when we racing? ;)

[91d16]

also to get back on topic a little bit I think you should get a greddy profec b boost controller with the remote switch setup on the steering wheel so then you can adjust boost level from say 5 daily to 10 on race night. Just for the record 10 psi wouldn't be bad but def MAX on a stock d series motor. My friend runs 10 daily and his motor is still fine after 45,000 miles but I wouldn't do it, so yea good luck

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by cashizslick
170 hp - 125 hp = 45 more hp, and a completely stock motor to work on.

Yes, i dont see us being able to race anytime soon, but even so - your car would loose to a completely stock integra LS (you know, the BSERIES 140 hp ls motor). Im not trying to flame at all, im just trying to back up the fact that a few boltons on a D16Z6 dont do very much at all. I know you dont wanna swap your motor, but why dont you just look around junkyards stateside (like i wish I had done) for a USDM B18C or B18B.

Just for sake of argument, since i run the same if not slightly faster than a stock GSR, i think you'd still come up with the short end of the stick on that one.

Have you ever taken your car to the track? Im just wondering - i plan on going when it gets warmer up here and i will post times. Im sure i will suck my first few times, but mistakes are to learn from and it will be fun regaurdless.

is it about which 1.6ltr engine is faster stock!?!? N-O, its about getting the most for your money.

I'll be hitting the track once this next step crap in my sig is finished.

[cashizslick]

If you were really about getting the most of your money, you'd have a nitrous setup to go with your boltons like OC does.

BTW, just wondering if i could ask you how your car does against other hondas. Im sure you have raced a few civic SI's and Ludes now and then.

[Midnight02]

i do want to boost, i definately want a turbo BUT i cant do shit to that car until the bank collects all 11,000 and so far i have only paid 233.00 SO you can see where i am getting with this... i will have that car paid off in about 3 years, i just need to start makin more bank so i can increase my payments. 65000 is not a lot of miles to start talkin rebuild for a turbo. BUT it is high enough that i might be doing more damage than good, ESPECIALLY running 10 lbs on race night. should i just upgrade cams, rods and pistons when i am ready to boost?

[Midnight02]

Originally posted by cashizslick
If you were really about getting the most of your money, you'd have a nitrous setup to go with your boltons like OC does.

BTW, just wondering if i could ask you how your car does against other hondas. Im sure you have raced a few civic SI's and Ludes now and then.


I dont know if your talkin to me or not, i just got the car last week... first and second gear just spin and my car likes to pull to one side. its nice being able to roast second when before i was used to a small chirp if i was on wet grounds with my slow POS DSM

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by cashizslick
If you were really about getting the most of your money, you'd have a nitrous setup to go with your boltons like OC does.

BTW, just wondering if i could ask you how your car does against other hondas. Im sure you have raced a few civic SI's and Ludes now and then.

i'd get nitrous but i want the power all the time.

i've only raced one SI and in 1st and 2nd we were pretty much even, then in 3rd he started to pull away. I'm hoping the 4.7FD will take care of most near stock b16civics out there. oh and this was quite some time ago, before the test pipe and i think exhaust.

[Midnight02]

question, where the hell do you guys get all your money to soupe up your cars. some of the things you people talk about are insane, granted i would do an engine swap in a heart beat if i knew the gains, but between nitrous, turbos, coil overs, skirts, wings, friggin TV monitors in the dash, where does it all come from?? are you guys getting hooked up with parts or something?? teach me the secret... ALL my money just goes to paying off my car, i need extra cash... any suggestions. and yes, i do have a real job.

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by 91d16
[url]
how bout that cashizslick :rolleyes: :cool:

and also if you want a cheaper motor I know where ones at that was boosted 6psi but he will sell for 250 dollars.

That is not a turbo kit, it is a turbo manifold, and a turbo. - and cheep ones at that.

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by AzCivic
i'd get nitrous but i want the power all the time.

i've only raced one SI and in 1st and 2nd we were pretty much even, then in 3rd he started to pull away. I'm hoping the 4.7FD will take care of most near stock b16civics out there. oh and this was quite some time ago, before the test pipe and i think exhaust.


Not to shabby - USDM b16 im guessing.

Honestly though, i wish you could drive my car - its quite different from how it was before. Not to flame, but B16's benefit quite well from i/h/e boltons.

I bet with a good launch(provided your LSD is installed) and the new final drive you could lead through 2nd gear. But once third hits i'd say you still might be in trouble only because of your current lack of high end power.

Ur gonna turbo right?

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by Midnight02
question, where the hell do you guys get all your money to soupe up your cars. some of the things you people talk about are insane, granted i would do an engine swap in a heart beat if i knew the gains, but between nitrous, turbos, coil overs, skirts, wings, friggin TV monitors in the dash, where does it all come from?? are you guys getting hooked up with parts or something?? teach me the secret... ALL my money just goes to paying off my car, i need extra cash... any suggestions. and yes, i do have a real job.

Over time, all the little crap you do to your car will add up. I got my engine swap because i saved up all last summer for it.

[thermal]

Originally posted by Midnight02
question, where the hell do you guys get all your money to soupe up your cars. some of the things you people talk about are insane, granted i would do an engine swap in a heart beat if i knew the gains, but between nitrous, turbos, coil overs, skirts, wings, friggin TV monitors in the dash, where does it all come from?? are you guys getting hooked up with parts or something?? teach me the secret... ALL my money just goes to paying off my car, i need extra cash... any suggestions. and yes, i do have a real job.
I'm a pimp by trade......j/k. Nah, we are broke. Nobody here will deny that. After awhile, you'll just flow on the right direction. You'll notice that most of us here on the civic board are into performance than looks. We all save and spend every penny on anything to improve either handling or speed.....or max out our credit card like on my case...lol.

Be patient. Surf and search.....

[pdiggitydogg]

Im part of the honda enduced debt club :wave:

[91d16]

Originally posted by cashizslick
If you were really about getting the most of your money, you'd have a nitrous setup to go with your boltons like OC does.

BTW, just wondering if i could ask you how your car does against other hondas. Im sure you have raced a few civic SI's and Ludes now and then.


I know that isn't directed tord me but my car eats civic SI's and pretty much ever car i've raced except a damn vette but it was super fast with ecu upgrade, air intake and aftermarket exhuast. :)

[armyguy5]

alright real answers for midnight02...first off good luck finding better internals for and 02....i seem to hit a wall when i started looking.. second main difference other then litre size in the d16-d17 is how the manifold is...the d16 uses round and the 17 uses square (or the other way around) running 10 will eventually blow your engine withouth doing any internal work. If your gonna turbo it i reccommed a quafe LSD it goes for $1000 for a 02 ex. Be careful what you do to your car becuase the 02's a ULEV's and if you have to take emmisions for your state your screwed if you turbo.....i got an 02 ex...most of my stuff comes from ebay.....honeslty it's not bad...at the time i bought this stuff i was in the army...now i'm a broke college kid....if you have any questions you can IM at bbguy5 on aol....also my brothers a honda tech so i get answers from him all the time about my honda...oh yea get an ACT clutch and flywhell run you about 500

chris

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by cashizslick
Not to shabby - USDM b16 im guessing.

Honestly though, i wish you could drive my car - its quite different from how it was before. Not to flame, but B16's benefit quite well from i/h/e boltons.

I bet with a good launch(provided your LSD is installed) and the new final drive you could lead through 2nd gear. But once third hits i'd say you still might be in trouble only because of your current lack of high end power.

Ur gonna turbo right?

i have no doubt at all that your car is faster with an engine that makes more power.

yup turbo is in the future, cant wait.

[91d16]

Originally posted by thermalfi'd16
I'm a pimp by trade......j/k. Nah, we are broke. Nobody here will deny that. After awhile, you'll just flow on the right direction. You'll notice that most of us here on the civic board are into performance than looks. We all save and spend every penny on anything to improve either handling or speed.....or max out our credit card like on my case...lol.

Be patient. Surf and search.....



EXACTLY.... cc debt is a bieatch don't get one!! haha

[pdiggitydogg]

hey az, if youre going turbo, why the lightened flywheel? What's the weight of it?

[ebpda9]

Originally posted by 91d16
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33742&item=2455496634

there's the kit for 500


i'd love to see that manifold not crack in less than 2 months. and that turbo ? what do u know about it ? it does not have an a/r ratio, or any other important info about it :o

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
hey az, if youre going turbo, why the lightened flywheel? What's the weight of it?

why not? Its like 8.8lbs.

[91d16]

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
i'd love to see that manifold not crack in less than 2 months. and that turbo ? what do u know about it ? it does not have an a/r ratio, or any other important info about it :o

I doubt it would, and to find out the a/r just simply email the guy and ask. Don't dis ebay h0r you just bought one off ebay for cheap :nana: !!! Besides it's still a turbo and a manifold that could handle 7 or 8psi... remember this is a Honda not a high powered car. It's a stock D series motor at that we're talking about so hush up :yes: My advice to that kid anyway is " I wouldn't waste my time with hondas just buy a supra and be done with it "

:thumbsup: :flick:

[cashizslick]

No name ebay manifolds like that thing have a history of cracking.

[91d16]

Originally posted by cashizslick
No name ebay manifolds like that thing have a history of cracking.

I was just blowin him shit hah I wouldn't buy an ebay manifold. I'm just keeping hstuners forums alive :drunk:

[ebpda9]

Originally posted by 91d16
I doubt it would, and to find out the a/r just simply email the guy and ask. Don't dis ebay h0r you just bought one off ebay for cheap :nana: !!! Besides it's still a turbo and a manifold that could handle 7 or 8psi... remember this is a Honda not a high powered car. It's a stock D series motor at that we're talking about so hush up :yes: My advice to that kid anyway is " I wouldn't waste my time with hondas just buy a supra and be done with it "

:thumbsup: :flick:

well mine is a 95 gst manifold, and i never heard a 2g dsm manifold crack :yes:

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
i'd love to see that manifold not crack in less than 2 months. and that turbo ? what do u know about it ? it does not have an a/r ratio, or any other important info about it :o

Ghetto Eghey Crap

[pdiggitydogg]

Originally posted by AzCivic
why not? Its like 8.8lbs.

Damn thats light...
Well, youre gonna loose revs a whole lot quicker with the lightened wheel, right? So, boost would drop quicker as well. I personally wouldnt want that on a street car. Just my thoughts

[Midnight02]

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
well mine is a 95 gst manifold, and i never heard a 2g dsm manifold crack :yes:

Not only have I heard of a 2g manifold crack, i have seen it. My buddy was running a greddy turbo in his talon tsi awd and he not only cracked the manifold COMPLETELY in half but he fried the coil pack i was going to buy the car but it would have costed me so much money. the header split in half right down the middle because of his "20 lbs" of boost. he was able to roast all 4 tires so i wouldnt doubt the car, it WAS the fastest car in my city at the time, it was very very popular.

Also, what is an LSD and what kind of internals are hard to find for the 02 ex

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
Damn thats light...
Well, youre gonna loose revs a whole lot quicker with the lightened wheel, right? So, boost would drop quicker as well. I personally wouldnt want that on a street car. Just my thoughts

i have a factory flywheel that weighs 10lbs and i have no problems with revs dropping to fast in between shifts. anyone who does have such a problem probably needs to learn how to drive. so you get the benefits of the engine reving up faster and as long as you dont shift like a granny there'll be no real side effect.

[cashizslick]

Wouldnt that be bad for a turbo setup where you wanna keep the thing spooled up? Not like its gonna be bad for racing, but driving the car normally will suck.

[pdiggitydogg]

I meant only w/ boost

[AzCivic]

I just thought of this a little while after i last posted my reply:

the turbo being spooled isnt really directly related to RPMs, if the engine is spinning at 5k due to momentum of the rotating parts the engine itself isnt creating very much exhaust energy since your off the gas. i'm not sure how much air is getting pulled in the pushed out, but i'm guessing it aint much. who knows maybe i'm wrong.

either way if it does cause somekinda problem(which i highly doubt), factory flywheels are like $50 and i could probably sell the prolite for at least 100$.

[thermal]

First off, let me reittierate not to get that ss-autochrome turbo manifold. I frequent many turbo boards. That manifold is a POS. I agree that it is pretty but trust me on this one. I know many people online who were very disapointed about that product. My buddy has it and it cracked on him within 2 weeks. He added another brace to it, but it cracked again in less than a month. Stay away from the manifolds made by these company:
-SS-autochrome
-OBX
-Stone racing
-Spark

Go to www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/ and ask or do a search.... you'll see.

About that turbo, watch out! The same buddy of mine who bought that deal (manifold+turbo) ended up sending the turbo somewhere to get it rebuild. Again, this is within a 2 month time frame. You choice, your money.....

[pdiggitydogg]

obx makes a turbo manifold???

HA!

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by 91d16
I was just blowin him shit hah I wouldn't buy an ebay manifold. I'm just keeping hstuners forums alive :drunk:

And what would you know about these forms being dead?

[91d16]

Originally posted by cashizslick
And what would you know about these forms being dead?

because I've changed my name 3 times now so I've been around a good amount of time as well. I've probably got about 550 posts total. :yes:

[Honda_Tengoku]

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
Damn thats light...
Well, youre gonna loose revs a whole lot quicker with the lightened wheel, right? So, boost would drop quicker as well. I personally wouldnt want that on a street car. Just my thoughts

the increased reving capabi;ities, and throttle response more than makes up for the disadvantages a lightened flywheel has. trust me.

[nonovurbizniz]

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
Damn thats light...
Well, youre gonna loose revs a whole lot quicker with the lightened wheel, right? So, boost would drop quicker as well. I personally wouldnt want that on a street car. Just my thoughts

the only time you lose revs quicker with a lightened flywheel is when you're engine braking or when you put in the clutch... in either situation the bov would vent the boost anyway...

Also the turbo's don't really make power when they're not under load So it's almost better for the turbo to not have the extra momentum keeping it spinning when there's no reason for it...

Also the lightened flywheel will allow the car to get up to boost rpms a LOT faster...

By losing a percentage of weight on the flywheel you gain a percentage of power that's going to the wheels... with a turbo this is only amplified...

Be careful though my buddy put a too light flywheel in his VW and now it stalls at stops pretty regularly unless he keeps the revs up.

[Death_Scorpion]

Well I'm sorry if I missed many reply 's I'm tired of reading 3 pages of them


I have a d17a2 engine as I serch for tune for it

you can run a stage3 turbo kit will cost around 3000-3999 $ not sure cabable of doing 450 shoot

on stock motor and tuned fule system you will get from 75-100 shoot on (( stock )) with 6 PSI which means going above the 200 barrire will run within the 200 hp range carswith stock engine


Take in mind a D egines will not live if you run more than 6 psi

6 psi is you Green Line above this 1 psi only is your red line so don't plan to go above the 6 psi as most of the turbo kits co's will tell you to run on 6 psi if you are planning to run on stock


you can find the best trubos's at this web site , I'm planning to buy a turbo kit fro my K20A3 Honda Stream ( not solid within the us ) at this moment

http://www.turbo-kits.com


all engines on planet can be tuned , don't listen to these noobs Who think sawp is the way to go , I know a someone Who Done a 600 Shoot from a D16

he beats alomst all cars in a drag race onces made before
he beats a tuned
mostange 1992
Old Comoro 70's
Corvette 1998
SX240
Galant VR turbo


the only thing he didn't be able to beat
Dodage Viper GTS-R it was really damn fast shit


good luck

[thermal]

Man.... this thread is old..... anyway, I would like to see that 600hp D16.

Tuning is everything. I have been boosting my D16Y8 for 4 years now and was only below 6 psi for 6 months within that time frame. D16's are stronger than what people think. I have been running 10 psi daily for 2 years now with no problem.

D16turbo vs B-series swap on this forum has been a beat up subject already.

[Honda_Tengoku]

Originally posted by Death_Scorpion
Well I'm sorry if I missed many reply 's I'm tired of reading 3 pages of them


I have a d17a2 engine as I serch for tune for it

you can run a stage3 turbo kit will cost around 3000-3999 $ not sure cabable of doing 450 shoot

on stock motor and tuned fule system you will get from 75-100 shoot on (( stock )) with 6 PSI which means going above the 200 barrire will run within the 200 hp range carswith stock engine


Take in mind a D egines will not live if you run more than 6 psi

6 psi is you Green Line above this 1 psi only is your red line so don't plan to go above the 6 psi as most of the turbo kits co's will tell you to run on 6 psi if you are planning to run on stock


you can find the best trubos's at this web site , I'm planning to buy a turbo kit fro my K20A3 Honda Stream ( not solid within the us ) at this moment

http://www.turbo-kits.com


all engines on planet can be tuned , don't listen to these noobs Who think sawp is the way to go , I know a someone Who Done a 600 Shoot from a D16

he beats alomst all cars in a drag race onces made before
he beats a tuned
mostange 1992
Old Comoro 70's
Corvette 1998
SX240
Galant VR turbo


the only thing he didn't be able to beat
Dodage Viper GTS-R it was really damn fast shit


good luck



man not only do u not know what u are talking about, but u cant spell to save your life either. Man. How old are u? Like 10 or something?

[pdiggitydogg]

^tell me about it...

6psi? Who the hell told you that?

[Death_Scorpion]

Originally posted by Honda_Tengoku
man not only do u not know what u are talking about, but u cant spell to save your life either. Man. How old are u? Like 10 or something?

Do you have any problem man , Can I help you ?????? :confused:

[Death_Scorpion]

I will post my super k20a3 tuned engine / I have problem with Gear and computer chip my 5 speed gear do not go above the 210 km/h and I'm still in the 4th .... I will posy my car video sticking on the 210

ON other post

[pdiggitydogg]

...probably because its the speed limiter
(thats 130-ish mph for we americans)

why do you think you need to go that fast anyways?

[Brit6]

ok...i understand the whole swap vs. turbo d but what about turbo b series....now woundt that be the best of both worlds......exactly what im going to do :)

[Honda_Tengoku]

Originally posted by Death_Scorpion
Do you have any problem man , Can I help you ?????? :confused:

How old are u? U act like u are 10 years old. Atleast u spell like it. BTW do more research. Your info is way wrong (atleast from what I could decipher from the baby google u wrote)