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salvatrucha
11-12-2003, 07:43 PM
any body know what size the injectors are in a ZC engine. I think they the same a civic but I want to know the rate in cc.
Also what are the cc in other HONDA.
Am machining a fuel rail at work (cause i dont want to buy something that easy to make ) and then i started thiking why not put bigget injector. I was talking to another guy at work and he said that he had some injector from a 2L saab turbo. they use the same style of plug as HONDA but the actual body size is a lil bigger but they are defenetly flow more fuel then my stock injector so they are going to be my first test. the only thing that i dont know yet is if the saab uses a injector resistor like HONDA . thats why I want to try from another HONDA cause am thinking that they all use the same resistance. am also going to make an intake manifold. I have look at one and it dont look that hard to make( if you have the right tool and i do at work, I got all different types of alum and stainless steel. so why buy when I can make it at work for cheap).

AzCivic
11-12-2003, 09:15 PM
the stock fuel rail is good for like +400hp worth of fuel, so i wouldnt waste time making one.

nonovurbizniz
11-12-2003, 10:36 PM
the ONLY honda that comes with larger than 270 (maybe it's 230 or 220) cc injectors is the h22 with vtec and the NSX... they're 310 (or if the norms are 220-230 then the biggers are 270)...

Can't remember but basically NO honda injector is going to flow enough fuel for a big turbo or nitrous set up...

The most common thing used are DSM 440cc injectors... If you're engine already has the resistor pack for the injectors (pre 93 I think) then you don't even need to mod anything...

But if they are for a newer one you need to either solder resistors inline or buy a resistor pack from an older honda...

Either way it would NOT be a good idea to upgrad to that size without some sort of forced induction...

Even the larger honda injectors would be pointless without some serious NA work.

salvatrucha
11-14-2003, 06:56 PM
what about making the fuel rail? would i get any gains from it. I think its aem that makes an aftermarket one. they clain that you get better performance. is that true?

nonovurbizniz
11-14-2003, 09:21 PM
No

AzCivic
11-14-2003, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by AzCivic
the stock fuel rail is good for like +400hp worth of fuel, so i wouldnt waste time making one.

IALuder
11-15-2003, 01:12 PM
fuel rails have no gian period. if you want aftermarket to say you have aftermarket go ahead waste some money. but im with azcivic not worth it. why upgrade,if the stock ones are good up to 400-450?

thermal
11-16-2003, 12:27 AM
Here:

Stock Injector Spotters Guide Vehicle Injector Types Factory Flow Rating
1988-'91 Civic Si/CRX Si Peak and Hold 240cc
1992-'95 Civic Si/EX Saturated 240cc
1996-'00 Civic Saturated 240cc
1990-'91 Integra RS/LS/GS Peak and Hold 240cc
1992-'00 Integra LS/GS Saturated 240cc
1992-'96 Prelude Non-VTEC Peak and Hold 240cc
1992-'96 Prelude VTEC Peak and Hold 345cc
1997-up Prelude VTEC H22 Saturated 280cc
1991-up Sentra SE-R/200SX SE-R Saturated 265cc
1991-up MR2 Turbo Peak and Hold 440cc
1988-'91 Supra Turbo Peak and Hold 550cc
1993-up Supra non-Turbo Saturated 315cc 1993-up Supra Twin-Turbo Peak and Hold 550cc
2000-up Celica GT-S Saturated 310cc
1990-up Miata 1.6-liter Saturated 215cc
1993-up Miata 1.8-liter Saturated 240cc
1993-up RX-7 Twin-Turbo Saturated Primary 550cc Secondary 850cc
1990-'96 300ZX Twin-Turbo Saturated 370cc
1991-up 3000GT VR-4 Peak and Hold 350cc
1989-up Eclipse Turbo Peak and Hold 450cc

sohc_vtec 2NR
11-16-2003, 10:35 AM
what would we do without thermal's knowledge? :thumbsup: