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chameleon 93 EX
11-09-2003, 07:58 PM
Anybody know how much HP my car might have?
ebpda9
11-09-2003, 08:04 PM
135hp/140ft-lbs of tq
Shaved &/or Laid
11-09-2003, 08:05 PM
wanna race ?
chameleon 93 EX
11-09-2003, 08:31 PM
Is that all, even w/ my mods? It seems pretty quick for an auto. Oh and yeah Id probly race you if you didnt live so far away.
pdiggitydogg
11-09-2003, 09:01 PM
you like many people have 30million whp
go to a dyno
ebpda9
11-09-2003, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by chameleon 93 EX
Is that all, even w/ my mods? It seems pretty quick for an auto. Oh and yeah Id probly race you if you didnt live so far away.
well i geve you the stock rating. i have no clue on the mods that you have
GT40FIED
11-09-2003, 09:16 PM
I'd give you another 10-15hp for the mods. If I were feeling generous maybe 20hp. How bout me...wanna race me? :bandit: :banana: :stickman:
ChrisCantSkate
11-09-2003, 09:20 PM
(tq*rpm)/5252
Civickid0to60
11-10-2003, 09:09 PM
ill race ya....:-D
VR4_Craver
11-10-2003, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by hondaman-iac
well i geve you the stock rating. i have no clue on the mods that you have
Thats the stock rating on ex's? What is the formula for figureing it out? Isnt it 15% of your rating is at the wheels?
ChrisCantSkate
11-10-2003, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by VR4_Craver
Thats the stock rating on ex's? What is the formula for figureing it out? Isnt it 15% of your rating is at the wheels?
well.. its roughly 15% for manual and 20-25% for automatic.. and thats the amount of power lost through the drive train. however its not a exact formula or in any way accurate. its a guess for people who like playing the HP # game and thats about it. if you want to know for sure... you have to dyno. there are too many factors that you wouldnt think of that will change your whp#
i'd say that paint alone gives you about an extra 50 hp...
GT40FIED
11-10-2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by VR4_Craver
Thats the stock rating on ex's? What is the formula for figureing it out? Isnt it 15% of your rating is at the wheels?
That's a really general statement. It all depends on the efficiency of your drivetrain. For instance, if a 20% drop between engine and wheels was the case in my car, my engine would've blown up long ago. I dyno'ed at 657hp at the wheels. If I was losing 20% through the transmission (an automatic) I'd be making 788hp at the flywheel (657 x 0.2). This is certainly not the case. So it's hard to tell with a chassis dyno what the engine's making...those are just estimates and for a basically stock car they're not too bad...just don't use them as a rule.
V8killimports
11-10-2003, 11:21 PM
You can have anywhere from 15-35% power loss through the wheels. Like he said.. considering, weight of the flywheel, clutch setup, or tq converter if auto (autos will lose more power), type driveshaft if you have one, and even the rearend. While a 9" ford is stronger, the 12 bolt allows more power to the wheels. If you want to be realistic, figure about 25% loss to the wheels on your honda.
spoogenet
11-11-2003, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by GT40FIED
That's a really general statement. It all depends on the efficiency of your drivetrain. For instance, if a 20% drop between engine and wheels was the case in my car, my engine would've blown up long ago. I dyno'ed at 657hp at the wheels. If I was losing 20% through the transmission (an automatic) I'd be making 788hp at the flywheel (657 x 0.2). This is certainly not the case. So it's hard to tell with a chassis dyno what the engine's making...those are just estimates and for a basically stock car they're not too bad...just don't use them as a rule.
Someone failed math.
657 x 0.2 = 131.4
Based upon your math....the drivetrain is making lots of hp! :o
But yeah, your point is correct. It's difficult to use a dyno result to get flywheel power, or flywheel power to get wheel power.
All that really matters on the road is what's at the wheels anyways, so I'd just stick with measuring that. :yes: And what matters more is the power and torque under the curve, not the peak. Specs from the mfgr are all peak, it's really quite useless data if you don't know what the power and torque curves look like.
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GT40FIED
11-11-2003, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by spoogenet
Someone failed math.
657 x 0.2 = 131.4
Based upon your math....the drivetrain is making lots of hp! :o
And someone failed to finish the equation. 657 x 0.2 = 131.4 then 131.4 + 657 = 788.4. Man I hate when people need things spelled out.
spoogenet
11-12-2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by GT40FIED
And someone failed to finish the equation. 657 x 0.2 = 131.4 then 131.4 + 657 = 788.4. Man I hate when people need things spelled out.
Yeah....you failed to finish the equation. ;)
Lighten up man, I was just f'in w/ya. :chill:
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