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LaNRoVeR
10-20-2003, 07:13 PM
Sup, ok I'm thinking about doing a b16a2 swap for my 95 Civic Ex. I don't know much about the other parts I'm going to need after I get my swap. What all will I need I figured the ECU for the new engine, and shit. Whatelse though. Sorry I'm kinda new at this sorta thing. I'm not planning on turboing it or slappying NoS on it I'm going to do every bolton I can along with a few internals, and thats about it. I'd like to be able to hang with a Mustang GT : D.
pdiggitydogg
10-20-2003, 07:36 PM
hang with a mustang gt? then youre going to need more than bolt ons with just a b16.
and use a p28 ecu chipped for dohc instead
wait til later on and shaved and cashizslick will show up and tell you what they just did for their swaps...
LaNRoVeR
10-21-2003, 01:19 PM
Allright, I'm here to learn. I'm new to the honda thing. I just sold my Rx7, and went with the Vtech! I hope it was worth it. I would get a bigger swap I wanted to drop a Type R engine in it, but there so expensive. If I could get a used one with around 30,000 miles on it for around 2500-3000 I may consider it. I can get the b16a2 for 2100 new...
pdiggitydogg
10-21-2003, 03:28 PM
vtech is a phone
honda uses vtec
no b16a2 is new...theyre used engines too
LaNRoVeR
10-21-2003, 06:04 PM
www.jdmpower.net there supposedly selling new engines!
pdiggitydogg
10-21-2003, 06:21 PM
no
AzCivic
10-21-2003, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by LaNRoVeR
I just sold my Rx7, and went with the Vtech! I hope it was worth it.
you made a big mistake my friend.:no:
thermal
10-21-2003, 07:21 PM
He he he he... it's all good man. You really cant get a "new" B16A2 unless you buy it straight from Honda- the factory. Be prepared to drop some cash regardless. Now that you're in the world of tiny engines with no power, you'll need cash to go fast. More cash than your next door neighbor running a stang 5.0 with a few bolt-ons from Pep boys.
A mustang GT is not that hard to beat to be honest with you. I raped a couple of them on the street with my SOHC VTEC 10psi turbo. I'm sure they would've whooped my ass instantly top end tho. You're on the right track. Get a swap with any DOHC VTEC but you must understand that it may not be enough to hang with a stang GT.
At a minimum, for a B16A2 swap to a 5th gen civic, you'll need these:
-tranny
-axel
-shift linkage
-mounts
I'm sure that I'm missing something else in that equation. The ECU issue just depends on what you want to do. You can get a conversion to an OBD1 or as mentioned, a chipped p28 ECU. www.hmotorsonline.com has some great deals on swap packages, but you'll still need hte mount kit. Review some articles on www.hasport.com to learn more about swaps. It has a detailed list on what you need to any honda engine dropped in your car. Goodluck. Keep us posted
IALuder
10-22-2003, 08:51 AM
3Gs for a B18c, not bad. i may purchase one in a couple of years.
LaNRoVeR
10-22-2003, 05:47 PM
Selling my Rx7 wasn't a mistake trust me. It was a 1990 (2nd Gen) N/a it was slow, and needed a tune/ new engine badly! My civic would run rings around my old Rx7. If the rx7 was running right it would be close! Plus rotarys are expensive to keep up.
Like you guys said it costs money to go fast. Well with an rx7 it costs money just to keep the damn thing running...
LaNRoVeR
10-22-2003, 05:53 PM
K, I have been looking at the hsports, or whatever website. Going to cost some money just to get the mounting peaces up in this ***** : D. I'm willing to spend it though. Just wanting to learn alittle more about it before I go threw with it. I want someone to put it in that knows wtf there doing. My friend did the same swap and had problems with it, cause some dumbass didn't install it right...
Shaved &/or Laid
10-22-2003, 10:05 PM
well the second of the 'twins' is here
Yes the b12a2 swap is fast. No it will not hang with a GT. youll need sexin' boost for that. Also, be prepared to wire your ass off. I did it the cheapo way, and Cashizslick had his professionally done. Its not hard swap to do, but little things like emissions, Bracket for throttle cable, and wires need to be considered. youll be fine as long as youre mechanically sound.
cashizslick
10-22-2003, 10:17 PM
Jay Dee Emm Bee Sixteen
"The Torquless Wonder"
Shaved &/or Laid
10-22-2003, 10:18 PM
torque is for fords. sex is for hondas.
pdiggitydogg
10-23-2003, 10:06 AM
^Ive never heard anyone put it that way...but i suppose its true
(So why do backwater ford drivers have so many kids?? );)
AzCivic
10-23-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by LaNRoVeR
Selling my Rx7 wasn't a mistake trust me. It was a 1990 (2nd Gen) N/a it was slow, and needed a tune/ new engine badly! My civic would run rings around my old Rx7. If the rx7 was running right it would be close! Plus rotarys are expensive to keep up.
Like you guys said it costs money to go fast. Well with an rx7 it costs money just to keep the damn thing running...
yes it was. for the price of doing a swap in the civic you could probably just have swaped in a rebuilt 13B turbo or spent a little more and swaped in a 20B turbo. Both would be way faster than a civic, plus youd have the nice little benefit of RWD. But whats done is done, so have fun with us in civic land.
and if you dont wanna make another mistake you'll just turbo the engine thats in the car right now, rather than swaping.
thermal
10-23-2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by cashizslick
Jay Dee Emm Bee Sixteen
he he he... Jay Dee Emm Bee Ehyteen See (I Tee Arrrrrr) yo' :yes:
LaNRoVeR
10-24-2003, 08:51 PM
Dude, Have you ever owned an rx7? Trust me I knew what I was doing when I sold it. I wanted something more practical. Owning an rx7 is far from practical there gas consuming, and it costs money just to keep them running. Alot more then it would a Civic....
AzCivic
10-24-2003, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by LaNRoVeR
Dude, Have you ever owned an rx7? Trust me I knew what I was doing when I sold it. I wanted something more practical. Owning an rx7 is far from practical there gas consuming, and it costs money just to keep them running. Alot more then it would a Civic....
you want a fast car and you're worried about gas mileage!? uhhh ok. and what do you mean it costs money to keep them running? thats true with any car.
Shaved &/or Laid
10-24-2003, 10:31 PM
ok. I have a penis. Some penises are bigger than mine. Some are smaller. theres still a difference.
say he wants a 21" cock. This uses so much blood that he will pass out. Similarly, if he wants a 2100HP car, hes gonna get like -3 MPG. While It might be big, its not worth it.
Now if he goes for a more normal 9" cock, he can still please the ladies, and not pass out like the guy on Ripleys. Practical, yet satisfying. Similarly, a civic that gets 20mpg just riding around instead of 30 but will produce some 250-300 HP when he gets on it is capable of being practical, yet it can light up plenty of people. Id certainly take that over a 4inch 30mpg cock/car and gleefully embrace a little more gas. But that 21incher wouldnt be considered.
I have made a chart to explain, becasue i learned so much at school:
Shaved &/or Laid
10-24-2003, 10:32 PM
Chart:
slowEJ6
10-24-2003, 10:59 PM
hhahahahahaha
Shaved &/or Laid
10-24-2003, 10:59 PM
damn i need to get laid
thermal
10-24-2003, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by Shaved &/or Laid
damn i need to get laid
yeah dude.....:paranoid:
nonovurbizniz
10-25-2003, 12:06 AM
rx-7's are fical money pits... they can be made great but with NO WHERE near the reliability or economy of a civic... and it would cost more...
I agree that you should consider turboing the engine in there over a swap... ESPECIALLY a b16 swap.... that's all but pointless imo... you aren't going to make any real power with a b16 till you turbo and then not much more than you would've made with a d16...
Anyway good luck in making your decision...
I would suggest trying to find a wrecked 94 or so GSR... you should be able to get the whole car for under 4k and then you not only have more parts like seats and rear-disk you can swap in but you also have parts you could sell to others to re-coup some of your invested money...
LaNRoVeR
10-25-2003, 02:13 PM
Ok, IT COSTS MORE DAMN MONEY TO KEEP A ROTARY ON THE ROAD THEN IT WOULD A REGULAR ENGINE. do you understand now? It costs 80 bucks for a damn oil change! Needs rebuilds every 70-80,000 miles, During the summer rotarys run rough considering they run alot hotter then an engine with cyclinders, etc need I say more. A cyclinder engine you just turn the key and boom usually no problems. Oil changes are 12 bucks, and I can run my engine to 300,000 miles, and still have some power. Try that with a rotary. So, yes I knew wtf I was doing. I asked a simple question guys. I don't need to be criticized here. Go buy an Rx7, and get a different view point before you start talking about something you don't know about!
LaNRoVeR
10-25-2003, 06:39 PM
AzCivic you want a fast car and you're worried about gas mileage!? uhhh ok. and what do you mean it costs money to keep them running? thats true with any car.
(ok. and) : \ you don't start a sentance with a conjunction.
See, your really not reading what I type. When I put gas in my rx7 versus a civic theres a big difference in miles per gallon. See your arguing on a blind point of view. You've never owned one, or better yet, probably never driven one. So, you wouldn't know what the daily driven rotary world is like!
AzCivic
10-25-2003, 07:49 PM
why do i even come to this site!?!? i could argue every retarded point you made, but i dont give a shit anymore.
LaNRoVeR
10-25-2003, 10:00 PM
Lmao, then why do you reply?If you didn't give a shit then you wouldn't have started the argument. I asked a question early on about my swap, and you argured that the reason I (me) sole my rx7 was stupid pretty much. Wtf do you know about me, and my life. It was a shallow statement considering you didn't know wtf the reason was for me selling MY OWN CAR.... You must be pretty young to be so shallow man!
LaNRoVeR
10-25-2003, 10:02 PM
sorry guys, I'm alittle drunk i'm at a big lan drinking some blackberry 99 pretty hard shit. pardon the grammar.
cashizslick
11-04-2003, 08:42 PM
Hey guys, i just got done reading this, and i think i know why we never get new members . . . . . . . .
pdiggitydogg
11-04-2003, 09:42 PM
it happens all the time
IALuder
11-04-2003, 10:05 PM
maybe delete this thread? is it possible?
LaNRoVeR
11-07-2003, 07:17 AM
The reason you don't get new members is probably, cause they ask a stupid question or just a question period and get either made fun of or romped on. AZcivic doesn't help much either....
AzCivic
11-07-2003, 10:07 AM
did i hurt your feelings??? I'm soo very sorry.
so i shouldnt have said you made a mistake selling a rwd rx-7 to get a fwd civic, I'm sorry alright.
lets move on and enjoy our Honda's!
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