Omfg Swap Rocks

[Shaved &/or Laid]

finally got my 170 hp with diffy. AHHH NUT IN PANTS so fast and sexin. ill never drive a D again.

[pdiggitydogg]

oh so thats what you were saying earlier...i came back from doin somethin and theres all this "so fast" "asdfa" stuff on my aim...

so what was the problem?

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by Shaved &/or Laid
finally got my 170 hp with diffy. AHHH NUT IN PANTS so fast and sexin. ill never drive a D again.

go race a beat down mustang and see just how fast you are.

[IALuder]

umm question, what motor are you running? 170 sounds like a GSR or B16a2.

Im thinking in the long run. after everything i will have done to my car. i will buy a JDM B18c5 for my civic.

Plus why does everyone think mustangs are fast?

[Wren57]

Um, probably because they are :D

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by Shaved &/or Laid
finally got my 170 hp with diffy. AHHH NUT IN PANTS so fast and sexin. ill never drive a D again.


That about sums up my feelings regaurding this motor.

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by SFKing

Plus why does everyone think mustangs are fast?

they're not but they're still faster than a civic with a b16 swap, which proves my point that after you spend all kinds of time/money on a swap you're still not close to being fast. the only thing that'll make a low displacement engine fast is boost, period.

[thermal]

Originally posted by AzCivic
they're not but they're still faster than a civic with a b16 swap, which proves my point that after you spend all kinds of time/money on a swap you're still not close to being fast. the only thing that'll make a low displacement engine fast is boost, period.
well said......

[thermal]

Originally posted by SFKing
umm question, what motor are you running? 170 sounds like a GSR or B16a2............
JDM B16A probably from an integra XSi or SiR II.

[Shaved &/or Laid]

SirII. I could prolly beat a v6 stang doods.

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by Shaved &/or Laid
SirII. I could prolly beat a v6 stang doods.

V6 stang = total crap

BTW - tell us about how much you looooove havin DOHC VTEC!!!

[IALuder]

mustangs are a joke. they looked good till the 80's.

[Grip72]

i've seen a few later 80's model stangs...SOME...i don't LOVE mustangs but i dont' hate em...

i have a h22a swap in the back of my head day in and day out...i don't know if i should just buy a newer car or do a swap someday:confused: so much $$$ :no:

[IALuder]

if you do the swap, think of the sleeper.

people would never expect it. you could people and it would be funny.

[Grip72]

ya man...i just found out i might be outta school early..i'm so fukered right now...

[pdiggitydogg]

mid 90's stangs are all trash...even the gt's
01+ gts are nice though

and yes, you will be able to take out a v6 stang...if you cant I will take your car away from you

[Shaved &/or Laid]

hmm. maybe the ECU.

[IALuder]

what about the ECU?

[Shaved &/or Laid]

I oficially hate D series now. In a respectful way i guess.

Me and Cashizslick enjoy talking now.

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by Shaved &/or Laid
I oficially hate D series now.

I know that this seems a little harsh, but its true - i hate honda for downgrading the USDM civics and giving them the Sohc Vtec motor.

Because of this, getting a Bseries motor is a big pain in the butt.

[AzCivic]

b16's ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Three thousand dollars(or more!) for like 35hp and no torque. You guys have me sold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by Shaved &/or Laid
SirII. I could prolly beat a v6 stang doods.

you too? cool.

[thermal]

Originally posted by AzCivic
......... Three thousand dollars(or more!) for like 35hp and no torque. You guys have me sold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Daym bro, you're that cheap?.... he he he he

I wanna run both you Shave and cashiz with my daily driven SOHC VTEC-T.... ha ha ha...j/p

i hate to say it but turbo them B16's. Trust me, it'll be more fun. I know a guy 2 blocks down from me who has a 581HP 2000 Si.
:yes:

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by thermalfi'd16
Daym bro, you're that cheap?.... he he he he

I wanna run both you Shave and cashiz with my daily driven SOHC VTEC-T.... ha ha ha...j/p

i hate to say it but turbo them B16's. Trust me, it'll be more fun. I know a guy 2 blocks down from me who has a 581HP 2000 Si.
:yes:

not really cheap, just not wasteful. I dont want a 400hp+, tire smoking FWD civic, just a car that'll run 12's, which is NOT hard to do with a d series engine.

If HP #'s are the name of the game then of course swap. If having a fast daily driver is what you want, why swap out a perfectly good engine that'll get you what you want? Is it to be able to say you have an engine swap????

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by thermalfi'd16
Daym bro, you're that cheap?.... he he he he

I wanna run both you Shave and cashiz with my daily driven SOHC VTEC-T.... ha ha ha...j/p


:no: :no: :no: :no:

[thermal]

If HP #'s are the name of the game then of course swap. If having a fast daily driver is what you want, why swap out a perfectly good engine that'll get you what you want? Is it to be able to say you have an engine swap????
I know what you mean. I didnt mean "cheap" as in literally cheap. I cant speak for everybody here. That is one of the reasons why I kept my boosted SOHC VTEC. Granted it's not on the 12's, but it is a fun car for a daily driven car

:no::no: :no: :no:
.... i was just kiddin' bro.... you know i fuk with everyone.... he he he

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by AzCivic
b16's ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Three thousand dollars(or more!) for like 35hp and no torque. You guys have me sold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you forget that a built (but still daily driven) NA sohc vtec motor makes about the same power as a stock B16 - if you put 3k worth of NA tuning into a Sohc vtec motor, you'd end up with around the same thing as if you had swapped in a DOHC vtec bseries motor.

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by thermalfi'd16
.... i was just kiddin' bro.... you know i fuk with everyone.... he he he

no offence taken, but i know i'd get smoked - my car is still gonna be slow unless i do some N2o or a turbo.

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by cashizslick
you forget that a built (but still daily driven) NA sohc vtec motor makes about the same power as a stock B16 - if you put 3k worth of NA tuning into a Sohc vtec motor, you'd end up with around the same thing as if you had swapped in a DOHC vtec bseries motor.


i missed this one. and once again you're wrong, i'll spend 3k and have a 1.8ltr high compression SOHC that'll SPANK any near stock b16.

[Shaved &/or Laid]

hmm.

it might have something to do with my D series blowing up and me not wanting to put the same POS back in. Im sure youll tell me how i suck at driving casue it exploded. but remember i bought the car with 250k miles on it so i could do a swap.

[thermal]

Shaved.....did you find out what was causing that thing on the tilting?

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by AzCivic
i missed this one. and once again you're wrong, i'll spend 3k and have a 1.8ltr high compression SOHC that'll SPANK any near stock b16.
Correction, you will have a worthless motor maxed to its full potential, while everybody who swapped in a bseries motor will have the same power as you and a motor with plenty of potential.

[thermal]

ohh shiet.....here we go... I'm gonna back off..... sensitive issue. He he he he he he...... time to unsubscribe to this thread. Peace!

[pdiggitydogg]

theyve been at it forever...

guys come on...its clear that neither is going to sway the other into thinking something different
give it up

[nonovurbizniz]

just cuz fighting is fun...

A. Pre-80's mustangs are WAY WAY uglier than 80's mustangs... Sure 65-70 are better looking but 72-79 are about the ugliest cars ever produced...

B. 80's Mustangs GT's or not are not inherently crappy or slow... a 5.0 or a turbo 4 mustang would own a civic with a swap ANY DAY... and if you ask me they have just about as much styling going for them... that's more of a personal opinion... but I think 80's fastback hatches are DAMN nice looking... I don't like notch backs but again... that's all up to individual taste.
C. A built D would not only have WAY WAY more power than a stock b16 but it would be FAR from it's "full potential"... Once built you could turbo the PISS out of it or run LOTS of nitrous... there would be NO comparisson between a stock b swap and a d with the same money thrown at it... whether it's for a NA build or not... 3k into a d could get you SUB 12's with some luck. A stock B swap will NEVER do that... even a type R... the only upside to a B series is that you can tune both intake and exhaust valve timing independently... but that's hardly worth 3k... Don't get me wrong there are plenty of benifits to swapping and it's a great quick fix with out much thought or work if you just want some more speed... it's just a LOT of money to spend on not soo much imo. Unless you go 1.8 or higher a swap is silly to me... I'd take a LS swap over a b16anything.... at least you get some displacement out of the box...

just my 2 bits.

Oh and v6 mustangs are slow slow slow... 5.0's aren't even that fast... sure they're faster than a civic but that's not saying much imo.

[pdiggitydogg]

total agreement on the 'stang thoughts

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
A built D would not only have WAY WAY more power than a stock b16 but it would be FAR from it's "full potential"... Once built you could turbo the PISS out of it or run LOTS of nitrous... there would be NO comparisson between a stock b swap and a d with the same money thrown at it...
just my 2 bits.

This is true (ok, i over exagerated), but you will never get anywhere near out of a d series motor what you can out of a b series motor.

[nonovurbizniz]

BS...

http://www.dragsport.com/issue/7/cover_story.shtml

BOTH sohc engines... BOTH held the "Worlds fastest All motor" title.

[thermal]

That is the baddesssttt mutha' I've ever heard of in a while........

[cashizslick]

ThaT IS a fine example of tuning - impressive, very impressive.

[AzCivic]

You mean you haven't heard of Bisi!?!?!?!

[Shaved &/or Laid]

I apologize for having a B series. I realize that im a fuicking dumbass, and that i should drive my car into a gas pump for not keeping my ****ing D with 220k miles on it that was run hard by the girl that owned it before me and struggling to run, that is until it broke down. I suck at life, and Az civic is god.

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

Originally posted by Shaved &/or Laid
I apologize for having a B series. I realize that im a fuicking dumbass, and that i should drive my car into a gas pump for not keeping my ****ing D with 220k miles on it that was run hard by the girl that owned it before me and struggling to run, that is until it broke down. I suck at life, and Az civic is god.


wow, such ignorance....:yes: why? because i'm god not Azcivic, haha

[thermal]

dudes....chill. :chill: ha ha ha ha ha.... it's all good. I wish BDC would drop his penny on this matter. That dude can tear up some mofo's...

[cashizslick]

He hasent posted here in mad long.

[Shaved &/or Laid]

who is BDC ?

[thermal]

BDC= Black Deuce Coupe. He is the moderator here. I actually see him on on late nights. He admits that he doesnt post but he sure does watch. You should see him in action on other boards. He used to tear people up back in the SHO days.... ha ha ha ha..

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by thermalfi'd16
BDC= Black Deuce Coupe. He is the moderator here. I actually see him on on late nights. He admits that he doesnt post but he sure does watch. You should see him in action on other boards. He used to tear people up back in the SHO days.... ha ha ha ha..

Back in the SHO days - remember Dr. Drew - i think he is a mod here as well, but he hasnt posted here in a long time.

He and BDC used to post all the time on SHO, but all the ricers are what drove them away cause they would keep contradicting the truth with total nonsence.

BDC is the man at posts - his info is always well presented and he uses lots and lots of pictures which rulz!

[pdiggitydogg]

bdc is kinda like Zeus...he watches and rarely participates...

if a good post, mostly technical stuff, comes up...he'll note that we're all wrong...and fix the situation

[cashizslick]

Ya, but he hasent posted in mad mad long.

[pdiggitydogg]

true...but he was in here yesterday I believe

and actually...we havent had any crazy topics...like...gm synchomesh mtf vs honda mtf
stuff like that
most of the topics as of late are
d vs b (which is preference)
coilovers
lights
mini-me
and stuff like that...not too complicated

[Shaved &/or Laid]

D is so awesome im taking my B out im sorry AZ. theres no way you could prefer a B. Youre wrong Pdigg.

[pdiggitydogg]

dude im never wrong

[thermal]

Originally posted by cashizslick
Back in the SHO days - remember Dr. Drew - i think he is a mod here as well, but he hasnt posted here in a long time.

He and BDC used to post all the time on SHO, but all the ricers are what drove them away cause they would keep contradicting the truth with total nonsence.

BDC is the man at posts - his info is always well presented and he uses lots and lots of pictures which rulz!
OT: Yep. Drew is the turbo forum mod here. SHO is now SHC. There are still peeps there that I know. I used to moderate SHO turbo forum but like others, I stepped down. Matt3t4, dezoris, neouser, texan, tuan, predator, and sometimes St00pid are all on HV.

[oc civic]

Originally posted by Shaved &/or Laid
D is so awesome im taking my B out im sorry AZ. theres no way you could prefer a B. Youre wrong Pdigg.

if you lived closer id race you with my single cam;)

[94_AcCoRd_EX]

Originally posted by thermalfi'd16
OT: Yep. Drew is the turbo forum mod here. SHO is now SHC. There are still peeps there that I know. I used to moderate SHO turbo forum but like others, I stepped down. Matt3t4, dezoris, neouser, texan, tuan, predator, and sometimes St00pid are all on HV.

I wish Dezoris would stop by and drop some suspension tech on us. I learned a lot when Dezoris was here...

[thermal]

www.hondavision.com <---- His website

[Wren57]

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
3k into a d could get you SUB 12's with some luck.

yeah dude, you could get a body kit for 1000, rims for 500, a big wing and altezzas for 500, then strap on a ton of NAWS with the last 1000 and be sub 12 easy... :rolleyes:

[cashizslick]

Originally posted by highlander
yeah dude, you could get a body kit for 1000, rims for 500, a big wing and altezzas for 500, then strap on a ton of NAWS with the last 1000 and be sub 12 easy... :rolleyes:

No kiddin - then you'd be PimPin

[Shaved &/or Laid]

DA WHIP IS TIGHT MAD CLEAN GURL FO REAL