header help???????

[angimal]

what would a decent brand be for a header for a 1999 honda civic siR, I would like some ideas on good headers and also cheap headers. Any input would be great.
Thanks J:)

[pdiggitydogg]

just to let you know, there is a search feature (top of the page)
Please use it in the future...keeps the # of redundant posts down

http://www.hstuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15760

youre either going to hear DC, comptech, greddy, chikara, blah blah blah.

Dont chince out...get a decent one that has info and tech to back it up. I also dont recommend ceremic

[angimal]

ok....im blind, can't find the search option....:confused:

[GirlSolRacer]

SiR? Do you mean the JDM B16A? If so, some of the best headers for that application would be Powercore JDM style stainless headers. They have been proven to put 7hp to the ground. Unlike DC sports who are nice, but put only 3-4hp. They aren't cheap though, but when looking for something like this for your car, don't go cheap. Because that's the kind of performance you will get, cheap.

pdogg, why would you not recommend ceramic? just curious.

[pdiggitydogg]

Ceremic is good for a few months, but it rusts way to easily and breaks/cracks/gets holes quickly (unless you live in the middle of the desert where its super dry and super flat)

Search is:

[KwikR6]

Originally posted by GirlSolRacer
SiR? Do you mean the JDM B16A?
No he probably mean SIR as in Canada's Si. Over here we have the SiR. You have the Si.

[angimal]

We have the same cars my friend....I mean the siR, not the si or ex or dx...but the siR.
thanks

[pdiggitydogg]

sir IS si (b16a motor)
there is no SIR in the US and imported from anywhere is still a b16a motor

[h0udini-2k7]

LMAO...i like the search map pdig!:toofunny:

[AzCivic]

too bad you dont have a dseries engine or you could get this:
http://www.exospeed.com/pictures/bisidcoated2a.jpg

[KwikR6]

Originally posted by AzCivic
too bad you dont have a dseries engine or you could get this:
http://www.exospeed.com/pictures/bisidcoated2a.jpg
that thing is ****ing weird.

[AzCivic]

yep, and its dyno proven for 8-12hp gain at the WHEELS on a basically stock engine.

[AzCivic]

another pic:

http://www.hadamotorsport.com/FireballedHeader1.JPG

[pdiggitydogg]

its a beautiful pile of ugliness isnt it?

[RavingCivic]

bisimoto is THE SHIT

here is some information about Headers for d series motors
http://www.hadamotorsport.com/tech/review/dsemc/

[RavingCivic]

this is my header write up found in general discussion. i thought it may be of some use here, where headers are of frequent conversation.... oc feel free to pwn me at anytime on information
i am 99% sure that everything is correct so add some info for me



Differences in D series Headers.

4-2-1 or 4-1 doesnt make the top end or low end power. it has hardly anything to do with it. it has to do with ease of install and weight differences.

what makes the difference is length of the primaries and secondaries, how short or long the collector is at the end of the header, and how smooth the merges are.

the longer the primaries are, relative to the length of the secondaries the more low to mid range hp output will be
so if u want high rpm hp then go with something that has short primaries and longer secondaries,
if u want fairly equal increase across the dyno then get even length primaries and secondaries

the merge from the primaries to secondaries has to do with the restriction in air, so the smoother they are,the less backpressure u will get.

the length of the collector has to do with HP numbers as well
if it is short then it will aid in top end hp numbers, if it is slightly longer then there will be a boost in midrange hp output. it also has to do with velocity of air, meaning backpressure, the smoother it is then the less back pressure there is and better hp numbers ye shall receive.

iF ur car is lowered more than 1 1/2 inches do NOT get 4-1 header, *if it is box style* the 4-1 header has bends from the primaries that will cause ground clearance issues

hope this helps
i am still debating on which header to get

the bisimoto puts out 8-12 whp on stock motor but runs 600- 750 for the painted model, plus it has to be welded to fit to the exhaust.

the COMPTECH, Landspeed Powercore, and DC SPORTS header all give around 7 whp *as tested from SCC and import tuner magazine.

i like the JG EDelbrock model as well along with the 3 listed above. it has many great features

IMO the rest are kinda iffy. they all have there issues
i am awaiting emails from several off brand headers but i think they will be a joke anyways

i think for the 400-500 u spend on a header may be worth 7 whp
but then is 750 worth 12 whp?

Definetly get SS over Ceramic, u will have miscolortation *which IMO looks tight as shit, some exhausts do that as well*
ceramic rusts to damn much.

again i hope this helps