Which cars are domestic (american) ????

[ebpda9]

http://autos.msn.com/advice/standardart.aspx?contentid=4021986&src=msn

i was amused by the honda powered vue comment;)

[thermal]

WTF?! :confused: Now we have a freaking Saturn running around with a Honda engine?

[pdiggitydogg]

well...at least it will last...er RUN a long time

[thermal]

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
well...at least it will last...er RUN a long time
he he he he...that's a good point:yes:

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

will this end the import vs domestic battle? only time will tell....

[VR4_Craver]

The new (04) malibu SS will have the i-VTEC accord engine in it too...

[pauls-si]

Originally posted by VR4_Craver
The new (04) malibu SS will have the i-VTEC accord engine in it too...

Yup......i saw that article in sport compact too. I wonder what the production version will look like.

[thermal]

I dunno. I kind of dont like this idea. I like all cars and the partition of domestics and imports makes it more interesting to me.....

[GT40FIED]

Blarg...it's been going on for years. Technology sharing programs have been around for quite a while. Ford and Mazda have had one for probably a bit over 10 years (that I know of)...so a Ranger ends up with a Mazda transmission and a Mazda gets a Ford 2.3L motor. Now GM has hooked up with Honda. Who knows Daimler Chrysler will hook up with. Sad thing is that anymore there's really no such thing as domestic and import...I don't think there's a single car available on the American market (save perhaps a few exotics) that is entirely assembled using parts exclusively from it's company's country of origin. It goes both ways..."imports" and "domestics". So really, import vs. domestics crap is really just a bitchfest.

[dasica]

Originally posted by sohc_vtec 2NR
will this end the import vs domestic battle? only time will tell....

Yeah it looks like imports won, all the domestics want import engines!:toofunny: :toofunny: :toofunny:

[HndaTch627]

i knew about this 3 years ago, we got onstar in exchange for offering the power plant, hell someone has toshow GM how to get Fuel Economy and horsepower out of a car that emits less then their 4 cylinders ;)

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by dasica
Yeah it looks like imports won, all the domestics want import engines!:toofunny: :toofunny: :toofunny:

Actually, it's quite rare that a one company uses another's engines. Other parts...that's different. Again...I direct you to Ford and Mazda. Ever notice a bit of similarity between the later model Mercury Capri (not the '79-'86 Mustang-like models) and the Mazda Miata? And don't think it's only American based companies using foreign motors...it goes both ways. I don't think GM is using the Honda motor because they can't figure out how to get efficient power from a smaller displacement motor...I think it's because they're too damn lazy to try. They're pretty content to rest on their laurels.

[pauls-si]

^^...the capri was based on the mazda 323 it was FF......Yeah, car companys have been sharing technology for years.....remember the ford courier from the late 70s...that was a mazda.

[ebpda9]

heh, i think ford owns mazda. i've read somewhere that the next contour/mistique will be mazda 6 based. look at the ranger and mazda b series--same lines, look at the last mazda 626 and 97 stangs, same lines and everything, even where the stang has the foglights, the mazda has depressions in the bumper.

as for honda and gm i think honda went thru gm's parts bin and borrowed the plastic fenders off the avalnche and slapped them on the element. Even the 03 accord sedan has some saturn lines to it (ls that is). from what i heard the colaboration between gm and ahmc started in 97 when honda wanted to get into the truck market and needed some engines that can actually pull a truck with load and everything.

and if u ask me the 4cyl american engines (gm, ford, chrysler) are kinda crappy, quality wise, but the v6's and v8's rock.

[GT40FIED]

Yeah...it's really kinda sad how many companies borrow from one another. Look at the Ford Focus...it's an obvious predecessor to the Mazda 6. If you ever see a comercial for the Mazda 6 they'll cram it down your throat that it's "totally original" or "new and bold", Face it...it's a redesigned Focus. I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if the next gen Ford stuff was Mazda based. Face it folks...it's just business.