In case you forgot...

[V8killimports]

http://64.177.83.63/liberty/email.htm

[pbateson]

It a story or sumthings?

[V8killimports]

did ya click it?

[pbateson]

I did!

[V8killimports]

did ya watch the whole thing?

[Kyle]

i remember...don't care too much though

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

Originally posted by Kyle
i remember...don't care too much though

you must be canadian.

I remember.

[V8killimports]

Originally posted by Kyle
i remember...don't care too much though

Wow, what a horrible thing to say.. yea either canadian or french.. but then again, what's the difference??

[pdiggitydogg]

I remember...
http://www.valvereplacement.com/images/US_flag_half_mast.gif

[Sol's Eye]

I'm going to sit this one out. I typed out a post three times with the stuff I had to say on this issue. But I'm just too tired to deal with the responses I'd get. So lets just keep this rabid patriotism thing going. In fact, lets never let it go so that people will never stop being pissed off at and afraid of the world.

[V8killimports]

Well it's about time we kicked some ass.. I wouldn't mind rolling through all those shitty countries and setting up governments, making huge parking lots, whatever..

[Daviso27]

I remember...http://www.advocate.com/html/news/indeximages/gay_hitler.jpg

[V8killimports]

I don't think you do.... so sad to see how quickly people forget... they make comparisons like that one above like one has anything to do with the other... And btw, this is a free country... you are free to leave... funny though... complain and complain.. yet you are still here.... odd isn't it??

[Daviso27]

This is not a free country...We must pay FICA, Sales Tax, Social Security,etc...I haven't had anything free in years.

Laws Suck...I caugth someone redhanded breaking into my girls car, wupped his ass as my gril called the "Boyz in Blue" they arrived arrested me, took the guy to the hospital because he cut his hand breaking the window...I had to go to court...and the cops never got the thief's name...Way to go Gub'ment, Way to go Cops!

i love them...I am gonna have a few over for dinner someday...Maybe I'll go to jail for over cooking the chicken!

[V8killimports]

Get some help.. seriously...

[V8killimports]

Originally posted by Daviso27
This is not a free country...We must pay FICA, Sales Tax, Social Security,etc...I haven't had anything free in years.

Laws Suck...I caugth someone redhanded breaking into my girls car, wupped his ass as my gril called the "Boyz in Blue" they arrived arrested me, took the guy to the hospital because he cut his hand breaking the window...I had to go to court...and the cops never got the thief's name...Way to go Gub'ment, Way to go Cops!

i love them...I am gonna have a few over for dinner someday...Maybe I'll go to jail for over cooking the chicken!

BTW I am pretty sure you are full of shit... actually you get more tings free than any other country... you just take it for granted.. like I said.. you are FREE to leave.. and like I said before... strange.. you are still here...

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

can I get a hoo-rah?

[Kyle]

Actually...i CAn NOT leave...i'm not 18 yet...so i'm not allowed to leave the country...yet it's free eh...
and no i'm not canadian...or french.
i was just saying what i think...and tell me v8...why should i care?

[V8killimports]

Originally posted by Kyle
Actually...i CAn NOT leave...i'm not 18 yet...so i'm not allowed to leave the country...yet it's free eh...
and no i'm not canadian...or french.
i was just saying what i think...and tell me v8...why should i care?

WOW .. sad how you don't give a shit about the thousands of people that died at the world trade center.. if your family was killed in that attack, then would you care? How sad.....

[Kyle]

i asked for a reason...i guess you don't really care either...
and no...i wouldn't care if my parents die...
because i'll know that they don't feel pain anymore and they're in peace now.
I guess thats why death doesn't bother me.

[V8killimports]

Like I said very said.. I don't think there are very many people that don't give a shit.. aside from the taliban... maybe you should visit walker in prison... I gave you a reason.. a lot of people died horribly.. If that truely doesn't bother you, then you need mental help (honestly no offense meant here.. I am serious)...

[Daviso27]

^ If everyone had a heart like yours, this would be a wonderful world....

Let me ask you, Did you know anyone who died on 9/11? Did you know anyone who lived in the affected cites who might have been killed or you thought they were dead? I did. He was killed in the Pentagon. They couldn't even identify his body he was so fukedup, he was listed missing and never found, so he was deedmed killed. He worked for the DIA as an Intern. He stayed in my home for 2 weeks while he was on vacation the summer of 2001. He was my Wife's best find through high school...I had to deal with this Sh!t head on baby...So don't give me crap...The man was not even getting paid to be there...What kind of messed up sh!t is that? Then his parents were billed like $3K-$5K for his room and board expenses because he never filled out his "Per Dem" order...He was Fukin Dead...How was he going to fill out anything...

Why leave? The END OF THE WORLD IS NEAR, besides I have a nice place w/rent control...I love everyone!

[Kyle]

lol...you have no idea what you're talking about.
You CAN'T give me a reason to care...you don't care either...you're just trying to show to everyone your patriotism...there's no point
I already told you why it didn't bother me...and you're still babbling on how it's so sad...who cares if they died...they are in no pain anymore...they are no more...there is no reason to burden myself with useless emotions about people(that i didn't know) that are no longer.

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

time to unsubscribe to this useless jargon.

[Kyle]

;)

[Sol's Eye]

So V8, if I'm to understand this right we're supposed to be rabidly patriotic because a bunch of people died? So people dying for a cause makes it worth following? Do you know how many people died for Hitler's goals? How about the Crusades? Were either of those right?

Don't get me wrong, 9/11 was a tradegy. But holding on to it only fosters seperatism. Besides all that, 90% of the recent resurgance in "patriotism" is only a facade brought on media hype. Most people just plaster flags all over everything they own and think that makes them "patriots" or somehow they are "standing up for truth and justice" and the other idealistic crap that is vomited from the mouths of politicians.

9/11 was a political move. And a smart one. Don't let it go to your head.

[V8killimports]

First of all.. I don't know what I am talking about?? I been in the desert almost 6 months, and on tuesday I leave for at least another 3. In the past year I will have spent 9 months away from home in a shithole, but I would never trade it for anything. There are many people including my next door neighbor that have been gone for over a year... I know more about what I am talking about than you do about your own ass. But I am sure everyone will be happy to have you 2 leave as soon as you reach the ripe old age of 18... if you are still in this country after that time, then you are hippocrits..

And Daviso, funny how you say "nothing is free" blah blah blah... well by you saying that and expressing your opinion here is making you eat your own words... you are using your freedom of speech... but you take it for granted.. And as for people breaking into your car, what you did was assault.. it is illegal. Next time use your head. Daviso you seem like the anarchist stepchild...I sure you have it all figured out etc etc.. that's great.. but please tell me why don't you go to another country? Complaining, yet you are still here....

Yes, "a bunch of people died" as some ass said, but the whole point is to not let them die in vain, and to deter anything like this from happening again.. As I said earlier... if something like this happened to you or your family, friends, etc... you might care a little more.. yes Kyle.. you fear death.. everyone does to some extent. You may pretend that you don't to act touch and impress your internet friends, but it's a lie. But if for some reason you really don't, you really need to get help like i said before.

[V8killimports]

Originally posted by Kyle
...who cares if they died...they are in no pain anymore...they are no more...there is no reason to burden myself with useless emotions about people(that i didn't know) that are no longer.

Wow I had to read this again.. you are a very sorry little boy...

[Kyle]

Originally posted by V8killimports
First of all.. I don't know what I am talking about?? I been in the desert almost 6 months, and on tuesday I leave for at least another 3. In the past year I will have spent 9 months away from home in a shithole, but I would never trade it for anything. There are many people including my next door neighbor that have been gone for over a year... I know more about what I am talking about than you do about your own ass. But I am sure everyone will be happy to have you 2 leave as soon as you reach the ripe old age of 18... if you are still in this country after that time, then you are hippocrits..

And Daviso, funny how you say "nothing is free" blah blah blah... well by you saying that and expressing your opinion here is making you eat your own words... you are using your freedom of speech... but you take it for granted.. And as for people breaking into your car, what you did was assault.. it is illegal. Next time use your head. Daviso you seem like the anarchist stepchild...I sure you have it all figured out etc etc.. that's great.. but please tell me why don't you go to another country? Complaining, yet you are still here....

Yes, "a bunch of people died" as some ass said, but the whole point is to not let them die in vain, and to deter anything like this from happening again.. As I said earlier... if something like this happened to you or your family, friends, etc... you might care a little more.. yes Kyle.. you fear death.. everyone does to some extent. You may pretend that you don't to act touch and impress your internet friends, but it's a lie. But if for some reason you really don't, you really need to get help like i said before.
find and quote where i said that i wanted to leave.
and who said i didn't fear death...everyone does. I just know that when i die...it's over...no heaven, no hell. NOTHING.
so in a way death scares me...and at the same time doesn't.
you still haven't given me a reason to care...i'm still waiting...

[Kyle]

Originally posted by V8killimports
Wow I had to read this again.. you are a very sorry little boy...
I guess i'm an amazing guy...you've said wow to a bunch of my posts in this thread...and i'm not very little...btw...

[V8killimports]

Originally posted by Kyle
I just know that when i die...it's over...no heaven, no hell. NOTHING.


I am glad you figured this out.. you need to tell everyone because you are the first living person to truely figure out what happens after you die.. I forget who I am dealing with.. I troubled teenager who has EVERYTHING figured out.. typical teenager I guess lol ..:yes: well here.. you are right I am wrong.. better?

[Kyle]

ok...lets be sarcastic now...idiot.
You keep saying i'm a troubled little kid for not caring about people(who i don't know) dying...and you can't give me a reason...
i've asked just about on every post for you to give me a reason...still hasn't happened yet.
and i definetaly do NOT think i have all the answers...dunno when i said that...

[Sol's Eye]

Originally posted by V8killimports
First of all.. I don't know what I am talking about?? I been in the desert almost 6 months, and on tuesday I leave for at least another 3. In the past year I will have spent 9 months away from home in a shithole, but I would never trade it for anything.


Okay, that explains a ton. Most of the people I've met in the military have some sort of massive superiority complex. So you go, Captain America. Save your country from the evil of the world and leave us poor, misguided anarchist children alone. :rolleyes:

No one here said they wanted to leave America. The most anyone did was say that it wasn't as great as some crack it up to be. That's called realism. That's called seeing things for what they are instead of what you're told they are. That's called intelligent thought, though I don't expect you to understand that.

Anyway, this is pointless. If you want, I can break down who is really being immature here, but for now I'll let you try to figure it out. Good luck.

[V8killimports]

Originally posted by Sol's Eye
Okay, that explains a ton. Most of the people I've met in the military have some sort of massive superiority complex. So you go, Captain America. Save your country from the evil of the world and leave us poor, misguided anarchist children alone. :rolleyes:

No one here said they wanted to leave America. The most anyone did was say that it wasn't as great as some crack it up to be. That's called realism. That's called seeing things for what they are instead of what you're told they are. That's called intelligent thought, though I don't expect you to understand that.

Anyway, this is pointless. If you want, I can break down who is really being immature here, but for now I'll let you try to figure it out. Good luck.

Let's move past this.. I could care less.. but the fact that people don't give a shit about people dying, regardless of who they are, really bothers me.. and I told him to get help because I was serious.. something like that can only result from severe depression.. I was serious about getting help..
it's also funny how the vast majority of you who have experienced nothing have all the answers and are all wise on so many things... I was also pointing out how you are say you have no freedom, nothing is free, yet you are free to say that without fear of being prosecuted.. funny huh?

Also, I have no superiority complex.. I think I am better than nobody, and could care either way..but I get pissed off when someone tells me when I don't know what I am talking about by a kid who still lives at home and has to be home by 8pm every night.... don't you ****ing tell me what I know and don't know...

[nonovurbizniz]

I dis-agree with ALL of you...

A. posting that little flash movie is lame because it's meant to either pull at the heart strings of easily influencable people or to guilt others into being vengfull retards like the ones who are already angry...

B. I'm tired of hearing "have you forgotten" I could see the smoke from where I was working at the time and DESPERATELY wanted to try to get there to help... So NO I have not forgotten but just because I remember doesn't mean I should be a mind-less moron who thinks america is perfect... FAR FAR FAR from it...

C. The Military action that's supposedly to end terrorism is the most redculous b.s. ever...
1. Attacking people generally doesn't make them like you more than they did before.
2. The populous of MOST of those countries had NOTHING to do with the attacks NOR did they're governments...
3. "setting up governments or parking lots" is NOT going to solve ANYTHING other than some dumb brainwahsed 18 yr. old's anger issues.... only to leave him later in life with regret over KILLING people because he thought it was the "good fight".


For the people asking for a reason... HOW ABOUT EMPATHY... you as a human being are SUPPOSED to feel sorry for those who suffer... If you don't think the people in the twin towers (or any of the planes or the pentagon) or there families suffered then you are a sh!t head.. period.

So all you hippy teenage rebelious anti-thiser's can go suck a D1ck... to feel bad for native americans or south american revolutionaries but NOT for people who could have been your neighbors is just rediculous.

The point is... america IS better than just about (yes that's right there are WAY better countries out there... sorry it's the truth New zealand to name ONE.) every other country out there... You can say ALMOST anything.. (you cannot threaten... be it the life of the president or violence against another). So for all these spoiled kids in america to be SITTING AROUND DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT but still LOVE to ***** and complain about all the in-equites of the world and life, is b.s. because you aren't doing ANYTHING to make it better.

HOWEVER... that does NOT make america flawless or free from critisizm... america's healthcare SUCKS... our president is 25 steps below a signing (sign language) monkey, There is still TONS of sexism and racism... we have close to NO regard for the environment (it was getting better). America has PLENTY of problems and should NEVER be closed to critisizm.

And people should NEVER be guilted or pressured into patriotism...

I will absolutely NEVER EVER forget what happened that day but that does NOT change the fact that if you ask me it's OUR fault... you want someone to string up try reagan or bush sr... they made ALL of this happen... and if you think otherwise you are TRUELY living in the dark... I have NO problems with ANY president becasue of their political affiliation... I judge on a case by case basis... bush was a GREAT leader in MANY ways however he PERSONALLY backed saddam and put him in power... not to mention Osama... YES he was backed and trained by the cia... during his rise to power against the russians in the russian/afghan war...

So to blame him (you can't he has PERFECTLY legitamate gripes) for using what WE taught him against us.

And as far as john walker... F you for saying anything about him... did you live his life... that kid no matter HOW mis-quided he was DID leave the country just like you (v8) would've told him to do...

And beyond that he was fighting for what HE believed in which is ALSO what you would have suggested... So he should be your hero.

In summation... if you're not patriotic (blindly) then great but don't go trying to piss on someone elses' momorial... that's just dis-respectful and about as low as you can sink....

If you don't feel bad for those who died or were affected by it then you are sub-human, Unless of course you somehow MAGICALLY duduced what if anything happens to us AFTER death... course even then you forget that not everyone is all seeing like you apparently are... so the not-so-advanced rest of us are actually scared SH!TLESS before we die... especially when you have PLENTY of time to think about it before hand...

In closing...

V8... you're too gung-ho.. and love it or leave it stopped being a valid retort... ok it was NEVER a valid retort... Love it or change it is more american.

Daviso... you're just a d!ck.. seriously you only contribute polluting b.s. that noone wants to hear and you can't even back up remotely well.

Kyle... You are young dumb and think you know WAY more than you do... stop speaking with such ferver till you actually do figure at least something out.

[Kyle]

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
I dis-agree with ALL of you...



For the people asking for a reason... HOW ABOUT EMPATHY... you as a human being are SUPPOSED to feel sorry for those who suffer... If you don't think the people in the twin towers (or any of the planes or the pentagon) or there families suffered then you are a sh!t head.. period.


In summation... if you're not patriotic (blindly) then great but don't go trying to piss on someone elses' momorial... that's just dis-respectful and about as low as you can sink....

If you don't feel bad for those who died or were affected by it then you are sub-human, Unless of course you somehow MAGICALLY duduced what if anything happens to us AFTER death... course even then you forget that not everyone is all seeing like you apparently are... so the not-so-advanced rest of us are actually scared SH!TLESS before we die... especially when you have PLENTY of time to think about it before hand...

In closing...


Kyle... You are young dumb and think you know WAY more than you do... stop speaking with such ferver till you actually do figure at least something out.
Well...you are very very right....BUT i never said they didn't suffer...i just said i don't really care...it bothered me for a couple days after it happened...then after all the media and shit making things worse. THey did suffer...oh well...i've suffered plenty in life. And i'll probably suffer more later in life...it's natural.
And i didn't piss on his memorial...i was just stating how i didn't care...
oh, and i forgot to tell you...i'm half robot half human...so maybe that can explain the whole schpeal:rolleyes:

[V8killimports]

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz [/i]
[B]I dis-agree with ALL of you...

A. posting that little flash movie is lame because it's meant to either pull at the heart strings of easily influencable people or to guilt others into being vengfull retards like the ones who are already angry...

[/QUOTE]

I posted it because many people forgot what happened... they are fickle ... they forget by the next week what has happened.


B. I'm tired of hearing "have you forgotten" I could see the smoke from where I was working at the time and DESPERATELY wanted to try to get there to help... So NO I have not forgotten but just because I remember doesn't mean I should be a mind-less moron who thinks america is perfect... FAR FAR FAR from it...

Nobody said it was perfect.. It is far from perfect.. there is no such thing as perfect.


C. The Military action that's supposedly to end terrorism is the most redculous b.s. ever...


Well it's time we actually did something rather than sit on our asses and do nothing. People have to understand that they will be held responsible for their actions.


1. Attacking people generally doesn't make them like you more than they did before.


I agree with you... it's not meant to.


2. The populous of MOST of those countries had NOTHING to do with the attacks NOR did they're governments...


The populous doesn't.. but yes the government does.. if you are refering to the Taliban, they were the government of former Afghanistan... if you are refering to Iraq, then yes.. of course Saddam and Iraq called those mock 727 and 747s sitting out in the middle of the desert "anti terrorist training camps". And please do some research into the history of this country, Saddam and his sons. Some of the most horrific stories you will ever read.


The point is... america IS better than just about (yes that's right there are WAY better countries out there... sorry it's the truth New zealand to name ONE.) every other country out there...

Of course this is your opinion...


HOWEVER... that does NOT make america flawless or free from critisizm... america's healthcare SUCKS... our president is 25 steps below a signing (sign language) monkey,


Still a number of steps up from Clinton...




I will absolutely NEVER EVER forget what happened that day but that does NOT change the fact that if you ask me it's OUR fault... you want someone to string up try reagan or bush sr...


What in the world made you think I was looking to string someone up?? Did you click the wrong link? Must have....


they made ALL of this happen... and if you think otherwise you are TRUELY living in the dark... I have NO problems with ANY president becasue of their political affiliation... I judge on a case by case basis... bush was a GREAT leader in MANY ways however he PERSONALLY backed saddam and put him in power... not to mention Osama... YES he was backed and trained by the cia... during his rise to power against the russians in the russian/afghan war...


This is true.. so that must make it right.. in fact lets reward Osama Bin Laden.


And as far as john walker... F you for saying anything about him... did you live his life... that kid no matter HOW mis-quided he was DID leave the country just like you (v8) would've told him to do...


Yes he did leave... and I appreciate that.. but the fact is, he got his ass handed to him.. and you know what? This country is so free, he's gonna get a place to stay.. food, clothing.. FREE!


And beyond that he was fighting for what HE believed in which is ALSO what you would have suggested... So he should be your hero.


No, F you for saying that... maybe hitler was your grandfather? Or fantasy? Because he fought for what he believed in does not make him my hero.. that makes no sense whatsoever.....


V8... you're too gung-ho.. and love it or leave it stopped being a valid retort... ok it was NEVER a valid retort... Love it or change it is more american.


No.. not gung ho at all really.. I honestly love seeing people burn the flag, speak against the government, etc.. because it makes me so happy to live in a country where you can do these things. But yes.. you are always FREE to leave.. unlike many other countries.. but lets look at most people... they ***** and *****.. love it or change it? Most these people that ***** are so lazy, they won't change it.. or leave it...

[Sol's Eye]

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz

In closing...

V8... you're too gung-ho.. and love it or leave it stopped being a valid retort... ok it was NEVER a valid retort... Love it or change it is more american.

Daviso... you're just a d!ck.. seriously you only contribute polluting b.s. that noone wants to hear and you can't even back up remotely well.

Kyle... You are young dumb and think you know WAY more than you do... stop speaking with such ferver till you actually do figure at least something out.

Woohoo! Glad I didn't make the list of people about to get eaten by nonovurbizniz. And rather than just repeat everything he said, I'm just going to stop typing and say he won. Here's your trophy and a pat on the back. All of our participants will win one of the following fabulous prizes! This game show is funded by the following sponsors, please tip your waiter on the way out.

[Daviso27]

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
I dis-agree with ALL of you...
Daviso... you're just a d!ck...


Thank You...You Fukin Bastard