tires

[accord98lx]

I'm going to buy either for MR7s or MR3s 17x7 but the real question is..

will 215/45/17 tires fit these rims?

Are 215/45/17 tires good?? bumpy?? or the 205/40/17??
etc. thanks. btw..i already checked the suspension forum but didnt find help there.

which one do you guys have and whats ur experience with them?

[ebpda9]

yeah you can fir 215 tires on the 17/7

[accord98lx]

is my ride going to be affect like bumpy if i change the stock tires sizes or is that the springs and shocks part???

does tire brand really matter??!

[ebpda9]

well it will change a bit. you will get rid of most of the body roll, a bit bumpier. when do u plan on getting them ?

[Racing Rice]

You will feel a lot more of the road. Those stiff walled tires arent forgiving.

[spoogenet]

Originally posted by accord98lx
I'm going to buy either for MR7s or MR3s 17x7 but the real question is..

will 215/45/17 tires fit these rims?

Are 215/45/17 tires good?? bumpy?? or the 205/40/17??
etc. thanks. btw..i already checked the suspension forum but didnt find help there.

which one do you guys have and whats ur experience with them?

You do realize that a 215/45/17 is roughly 1.2" larger diameter than 205/40/17, or did you mean 215/40 and 205/45 (although still not quite the same diameter)???

I believe that 205's are measured on 6.5" wheels, I'm not sure what 215's are measured on. If 215 is measured on a 7" wheel then a 205 on a 7" will give a smaller diameter than on a 6.5", so keep that in mind too.

For the fun factor, I'd go with 215 over 205. :)

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[accord98lx]

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
well it will change a bit. you will get rid of most of the body roll, a bit bumpier. when do u plan on getting them ?

I was going to get them at sears yesterday but when I went to the bank to get the money...it was close.

Does tire brand really matter??? the tires Im gettin has a lifetime manufacter warranty. Im getting something called "Ultra Radial HPR" tires. searched the whole internet and couldnt find that brand. anyone know anything about them?

I saw a post somewhere on the forum saying that 215/45/17 will give extra rubber for protection over 205/45 or 215/40. this true??

[Racing Rice]

Just incase you dont know.. 215 is the width of the tire. 45 is how tall the sidewall is. There wont be much of a difference between a the sidewall height of a if a 215\45 and a 205\45.

[ebpda9]

well the tires that don't wear will have less grip.

[spoogenet]

Originally posted by Racing Rice
Just incase you dont know.. 215 is the width of the tire. 45 is how tall the sidewall is. There wont be much of a difference between a the sidewall height of a if a 215\45 and a 205\45.

Almost .5" if they're measured on the same width wheel, however as mentioned earlier if the 215 is measured on 7" and 205 on 6.5", then putting a 205 on 7" will give an even smaller diameter than what you may expect by doing the math.

Accord98lx: Tires are single handedly one of the most important pieces of your car, its safety, and its performance. Tires are the only thing between machine and road, make sure you get good tires!!!

They impact gas mileage, acceleration, handling, braking, noise levels. I would go out and do extensive research on tires before putting anything on your car. Tirerack has a wealth of reviews and information regarding tires, people on here have made recommendations as well. But definitely don't just slap some tires on because the price is right or they look good.

What kind of driving you do should dictate the type of tire you get (all season vs. summer tire, UHP vs touring vs etc).

As far as brands go, for different brands with tires that may yield similar cornering and braking performance, one may be louder or last longer or cost more, etc.

I've got Yokohama AVS ES100 205/60/15 on mine as opposed to 195/65/15 Michelin MXV4 pieces of crap that came stock. The Yokos are about the same loudness, barely more rough/harsh, and handle lots better. I haven't done an emergency brake test however they are supposed to be good for braking. They are directional summer tires and won't last as long as the Michelins. They're also 1/2 the cost of the Michelins, the Yokos are about $70/tire at Tirerack.

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[accord98lx]

Spoogenet:
Now that I think of it..maybe I shouldnt buy the cheap tires...

What brand do you guys recommend?

tirerack have some good tires for cheap but..
I dont think I want to buy my tires over the internet...

Yokohomas and Kumho seems to have good reviews.

I want tires that has tread that will last at least 3 years..(is that possible for low pro?) I live in hawaii so theres no snow here but it rains alot..so I guess I need tire with good wet traction.

Ok all in all..what would you guys buy.. a 205/45, 215/40. or 215/45..they maybe no difference in whole tires diameter but the price might be different. Btw..what is a sidewall??

[accord98lx]

Anyone kno anything about Yokohama A550v tires?? Are they good?? Its a yokohama..cant be that bad right?? Cant find a review on it at tirerack.com.

[spoogenet]

205/45 and 215/40 are going to give you a much closer total overal diameter than 215/45. What's your current tire size?

I don't know about the 550, however claiming "It's a Yoko so it can't be too bad" isn't a good thing....many manufacturers may make among the best tires but they also may make among the worst.

For example the AVS dB is supposed to be pretty bad, it's advertised as being super quiet, however once it wears a little unevenly it sounds like an airliner taking off.

I'm pretty happy so far with my AVS ES100. I've got about 5k miles or so on them.

For Hawaii, I'd go with a good summer tire that's good with rain. Probably directional will be your best bet. I'm not sure which ones are the best for rain, but here's the tires I'd consider:

Michelin Pilot Sport
Yokohama AVS ES100
Yokohama Parada Spec 2
Continental ContiSportContact or ContiSportContact 2

I'm not sure if these are all available in the sizes you want, but they probably are.

As far as tread life, a tire lasting 3 years will really depend on what kind you get and how you drive. You can compare treadwear ratings for an idea of how long they'll last, but generally performance tires don't last as long. A note of warning on performance tires, though, they don't grip that well when they're cold, they grip best when hot. Your initial wet traction may actually be worse with performance tires until they heat up, so if you make really short trips in heavy rain, they may not be best for you.

Edit: On Tirerack, I ordered from them and was very pleased with everything. I had the tires drop shipped directly to the installer, they arrived at the installer 2 days after placing my order and the recommended installer did a good job. I'd definitely order from them again. Of course in Hawaii you may have to pay more and wait longer for shipping.....but so far I'm impressed with the overall experience.

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[accord98lx]

what do you mean closer overall diameter...closer to what??

my current is 195/65/15

btw ... im going to upgrade it to 18 inches instead for $200 bucks more. so what size tires do i need now? 205/45/18?? 225/45/18?? as far as im concern, money isnt an issue when it comes to safety. (as long its reasonable)

sorry if its annoying to you guys that i keep asking these questions but really, im a newbie and just want to do it RIGHT.

[GetTheImage]

Man, I wish I knew something about tires. Admittedly, I just have what my friends told me to get...I think they're Nitto 450..? 205/40/17".....They seem to last pretty well...good luck with it!

I know several people who run on Kumhos and seem satisfied.:confused:

[Accord Man]

for 18s, 225/35/18 or 225/30/18.. I'd go with 225/35

[spoogenet]

Originally posted by accord98lx
what do you mean closer overall diameter...closer to what??


I think I was maybe making a mistake in what I said. Just by crunching the numbers, here's what you get.

195/65/15: 25"
205/45/17: 24.26"
215/40/17: 23.77"
215/45/17: 24.62"

So from that, 215/45/17 would be closest to stock size and is what you should go with. There's a catch, though, because the measuring wheel width makes a different in total diameter as mentioned before. For 18" 225/40/18 is closest to stock right around 25". That's pretty low profile and will be stiff. But if you're getting 18" you need to start looking into offset....have you done that yet?

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[SeoulJaGirl]

hmm... i need some help with tires too. i just ordered some Konig MP3 17x7.5 rims, and i'm going to order my tires with my next paycheck. i've been looking at getting one of these unless someone has a better recommendation:
falken ziex ze-512s
nitto nt 450
yokohama avs es100

also, i'm kinda confused on what tire size i would need. the websites i looked at don't really go into depth about width.. or i'm really blind and i probably missed it...:paranoid: i'm thinking i would need 205/40/17 right? help? please?

[jamez18]

I got 18 x 7.5 and the tire is 215/35/18

[acclude]

205/40/17 would be the best choice.

[nonovurbizniz]

Ok I'm pissed...

I just typed up a HUGE write up and hit escape when I dropped the keyboard...

Don't get 17's much less 18's... it'll be like driving on wheels with NO tires...

ANything under a 50 series is rediculous..

You also loose "sidewall roll" NOT "body roll" the only things that reduce body roll are springs bushings and sway bars...

You shouldn't be using 205's on a 6.5 wheel... it's refered to as "plus sizing" and it RUINS the charectoristics of the tire. Lots of people do it but it's ghetto... get the right size tire and wheel combo... don't go messing around with plus sizing.

Get 195's unless you're getting 7" wide wheels...

IMO 17's much less 18's look like clown shoes on a civic... ALL they do is slow your car down and look dumb... get 15's or 16's... preferably light weight ones...

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by accord98lx
is my ride going to be affect like bumpy if i change the stock tires sizes or is that the springs and shocks part???

does tire brand really matter??!

Changing wheels and tires won't necessarily effect your ride at all. It's all about the tire's aspect ratio. The lower the aspect ratio (the second number in the tire's description i.e. the "45" in 205/45/17), the stiffer the sidewall and the harsher the ride. The stiffer sidewall will give you slightly better steering feel and handling, but it'll kill your kidneys if you go too low. Plus they will usually be quite a bit more noisy than regular tires.

<-----not a big fan of lo-pros.

[spoogenet]

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
You shouldn't be using 205's on a 6.5 wheel... it's refered to as "plus sizing" and it RUINS the charectoristics of the tire. Lots of people do it but it's ghetto... get the right size tire and wheel combo... don't go messing around with plus sizing.

Get 195's unless you're getting 7" wide wheels...


WTF???? :confused:

Plus Sizing is usually referred to when increasing the diameter of the wheel, not the width. SeoulJaGirl is plus sizing by going from stock what, 14" maybe 15", up to 17" wheels.

And how can you say that 205's on a 6.5 wheel are ruining it???

Here's a little info straight from the Yokohama AVS ES100 data sheet:

Tire Size: Measuring/Approved Wheel Width:
195/60/15 6.0/5.5-7.0
205/60/15 6.0/5.5-7.5
205/40/17 7.5/7.0-8.0

So for SeoulJaGirl thinking of getting 205/40/17, a 7.5 wheel is the best match for width. :yes:

And clearly you can see that a 205 and a 195 can be equivalently happy on a 6.5" wheel depending on the tire size.

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[pbateson]

U think 19" Rims is too big for '95 Accord?

[SeoulJaGirl]

thanx for the easy to understand answer, spooge ;)
:dunce: (me)

[Shaved &/or Laid]

19's fit on a civic. so sure why not on an accord. My 17's look huge. imma get some 15's.

[spoogenet]

No prob. :)

But I gotta partially agree with nonovurbizniz on the clown shoes thing....while 19" may fit, I think they just look abnormally large.

Personally, I wouldn't go larger than 17" on a Civic. I like 18" on the Accord and 19" can look good when done right.....

But it depends on whether you want show or go. If you want show, go bling bling if you want, just make sure YOU think it looks good, screw everyone else's opinions. But if you're looking for go and/or handling, get smaller and lighter wheels.

The larger wheels will, most likely, weigh quite a bit more which will hinder acceleration and braking. To any noobs on this subject, a couple of pounds may not seem like much to you, but a little rotational weight translates to a lot of static weight.....the exact conversions depends on a lot of things, such as where the rotation mas exists with respect to the axis, however a rough guesstimate is something like 2 lb. of rotational weight on the wheels can translate to 2-300 lbs. of weight added to the car. I dunno about you, but I can notice a big difference in my car with just one 150 lb. person in the car in addition to myself......

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[SeoulJaGirl]

hmm... a lil too late for buyers remorse... ah well... i really love the rims i ordered... even if they're advan wannabes. ~sigh~ the closest i'll ever get to em...
what'cha think? (http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2431974011&category=43957#ebayphotohosting)