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wheresmylicense
05-13-2003, 05:46 PM
... does a cold air intake actually add?

Djsteals
05-13-2003, 06:06 PM
yeah like 3-5 hp. Go check out AEM, and Ingen sites out. I think they have some dyno graphs.

nonovurbizniz
05-13-2003, 06:24 PM
more like 3-5% of what your making now.

pdiggitydogg
05-13-2003, 11:05 PM
depends on a lot of things...but Id say not much...more noise than anything

AzCivic
05-14-2003, 12:01 AM
Enough to make your car faster.

nonovurbizniz
05-14-2003, 03:46 PM
ya they definately make a difference... at the very least there is a 3% increase in power for every 3 degrees celcius drop in temperature.

switching between my short ram and cold air extension is night and day... and it's not just the noise. (however they are RETARDED loud)

I have raced a buddy of mine several times with it on and off.. with it on he beats me (by a good deal)... when it's off you wouldn't be able to tell I'm racing him. I usually just stop trying to keep up when (it never is anymore) it's on*whoops I mean off/*.

wheresmylicense
05-14-2003, 07:21 PM
how much of a temp drop do you think is there from a factory intake system to a cold air?

AzCivic
05-14-2003, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by wheresmylicense
how much of a temp drop do you think is there from a factory intake system to a cold air?

None, the factory intake is a cold air. The aftermarket intakes get rid of all the crap thats used to cancel out sound and consequently robs HP.

sohc_vtec 2NR
05-14-2003, 07:59 PM
...the resonators are replaced by free-flowing mandrel bent pipes... and the piping itself may be larger compared to the stock pipes..that's basically the "technology" behind an aftermarket intake...

slowEJ6
05-16-2003, 02:30 AM
EK non vtec models arent utilizing a cold-air setup. its all in the engine bay, right behind the headlight.

and with EX's the filter is still in the engine bay so its sucking the air from the engine bay as opposed to say an AEM CAI where the filter is behind the bumper......temp differences are there, and you also arent using that stock pos piping with all the ripples n shit.

nonovurbizniz
05-16-2003, 12:28 PM
Ya mine sucked it from the engine bay... sure it passes by the same cavity that my cai sucks FROM... but that's not gunna cool down the underhood air as it passes through.

And the baffleing (all for sound deadening) ROBS performance... you think a straight pipe or mandrel bent exhaust effect performance then you should realize that smooth flow is FAR more important on the intake side.

slowEJ6
05-16-2003, 03:27 PM
i noticed more of a power increase with an AEM CAI on a D16Y7 than i did with just an exhaust - much more of a difference.

nonovurbizniz
05-16-2003, 03:51 PM
ya same here... my cai extension made more of a diff. then the short ram and the exhaust.

02_Si
05-20-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by slowEJ6
i noticed more of a power increase with an AEM CAI on a D16Y7 than i did with just an exhaust - much more of a difference.

What about the K-series engine? I have a DC Sport short ram intake... is there any extensions for this intake to make it CAI?... Also, doesn't this engine run better on Short Ram anyway? I notice a good difference in power with the Shrt Ram.. I don't really have anything to compare to as far as CAI but I notice difference from stock

nonovurbizniz
05-21-2003, 01:39 PM
there is a 3% increase in power for every 3 degrees celcius drop in temperature....

so ya it should'nt matter what engine you have... colder air will yield higher power (as long as the ecu accomadates with more fuel).

94_AcCoRd_EX
05-21-2003, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
there is a 3% increase in power for every 3 degrees celcius drop in temperature....

Where did you find that? I've always thought it was ~1%/10 degrees. In addition to that, you gain power from better piping, better air flow, etc.

3%/3' seems like way too much to me.

nonovurbizniz
05-21-2003, 02:48 PM
ya I just found 1% for 11 degrees F...

I'm not sure where I got 3% for 3 C.... oh wait it was hondata...

but I was wrong it was 10 C...

"10 degrees C which is good for around 3 percent power increase."

it was taken from: Hondata->Product-> "heatshield"

and as far as better flow... I think aem might have a little better flow than the stock... and probobly better than a short ram as well.

and i don't think piping quality effects performance... if it's a hollowed out piece of firewood and it outflows or better insulates heat than nice polished tubing I'd go w/ the fire wood... plus that'd be MAD diy Y0!.

RavingCivic
05-21-2003, 03:01 PM
the whole thing with the sound resonators and all, Have u guys seen the new AEM CAI with the 2 peice piping? ;( I lost my Super Street ;( so i dont remember what its called. O wiat here it is Its called the AEM CAI V2 http://www.aempower.com/induction.htm
anyways it nets more HP than the AEM CAI does, by alot percentage wise

94_AcCoRd_EX
05-21-2003, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by nonovurbizniz


and i don't think piping quality effects performance... if it's a hollowed out piece of firewood and it outflows or better insulates heat than nice polished tubing I'd go w/ the fire wood... plus that'd be MAD diy Y0!.

Yeah, I agree. I didn't word my post very well. I meant better piping as in piping shaped well for airflow. Its all about the airflow and intake temp.

nonovurbizniz
05-21-2003, 09:17 PM
I know I was just F'ing w/you.

ya I've seen the v2 but unless they GUARANTEE 15 hp OVER what my cai does now I ain't paying 265 for something I already paid 120 for...