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pbateson
05-05-2003, 01:50 PM
What kinda of gas u use?
I use Supreme or Plus for my car to refill the full tank at gas station. But my mum say to me to use Reg. or Plus. The Supreme is only for the big engine and very expersive car.
Do you think Supreme make the car go faster? What about Plus or Reg.?
Daviso27
05-05-2003, 02:22 PM
The rating tells you how much octane the gas has. Octanet is a detergent that cleans your injectors. It all depends what you can afford. If you are looking for speed, Gas quality is not going to give you a boost in HP.
pdiggitydogg
05-05-2003, 02:36 PM
91 octane - it will keep your engine cleaner (on the inside) because it burns hotter than the reg (I know you have to use it in the b16 and probably the other B's
I use midgrade...just because
Mushroom
05-05-2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Daviso27
The rating tells you how much octane the gas has. Octane is a detergent that cleans your injectors.
This is a joke, right? Go read a jr. high chemistry textbook, then come back and tell us what octane is.
Read your owner's manual. It'll tell you what kind of gas to run. If you mod your engine (read: increase compression) and it knocks, use bigger gasoline molecules (read: higher octane rating).
ebpda9
05-05-2003, 03:01 PM
higher octane than required won't make your car go faster at all, or increase your mpg. on contrary the higher octane on a unmoded honda will burn faster, decreased performance and bad mpg.
DumbMoFo
05-05-2003, 08:02 PM
The octane number of a gasoline is a measure of its resistance to knocking. Gasolines with high octane numbers burn more smoothly and are thus more effective fuels. The more highly branched alkanes (carbon and hydrogen compounds) have higher octane numbers than straight chaine alkanes. The octane number of gasoline is obtained by comparing its knocking characteristics with those of "isooctane" (2,2,4-trimethylpentane) and heptaine. Isooctane is assigned an octane number of 100, and heptane is assigned 0. Gasoline with the same knocking characteristics as a mix of 90% isooctane and 10% heptane is rated as 90 octane.
Octane levels are improved by adding antiknock agents.
That is one of the few things I remember from two semesters of chem in college, one of those classes I don't wish upon anybody.
Ultimately though, unless your engine requires the higher octane fuel, you aren't really doing anything other than burning your money. Your engine gets optimal mileage at whatever the book recommends (most likely regular).
mt.biker
05-05-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by hondaman-iac
higher octane than required won't make your car go faster at all, or increase your mpg. on contrary the higher octane on a unmoded honda will burn faster, decreased performance and bad mpg.
dont speak for all hondas my friend, my honda is faster with 94oc in it then 87 because it was designed for 91+. The higher the oc the better it burns... cause it burns faster
and I run 94oc in my car, btw gas 59c here
TeriyakiBroccoli
05-05-2003, 09:24 PM
i use the 87 (shittiest) simply because I could hardly care less about my car right now. *selling it*
Originally posted by hondaman-iac
higher octane than required won't make your car go faster at all, or increase your mpg. on contrary the higher octane on a unmoded honda will burn faster, decreased performance and bad mpg.
correct me if i'm wrong, but if the gas burns faster, there is less time in which the combustion occurs, which makes the overall time of combustion of all four chambers reduce, making it faster, and increasing how fast the RPM's climb say if you're gettin on it.
as to where if the gas doesn't burn as fast, the process of the combustion doesn't occur as rapidly, having a reverse effect.
does this make sense to anyone else?
member
05-05-2003, 11:03 PM
i thought it really doesn't matter anymore?
if i remember right, it USE to be different back in the day, but now it's all the same(or close).
the cheapest one was the shittiest,
the middle one was the normal one,
and the highest one was the best one.
but now, there's good gas(??) in all of them, so...
the cheapest(87) is like the highest one back in the day,
then the middle one(9?) is a little better than the cheap one, but don't really need it,
and then the highest one is the best, but also there's no need for it.
???
ebpda9
05-05-2003, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by A_D
correct me if i'm wrong, but if the gas burns faster, there is less time in which the combustion occurs, which makes the overall time of combustion of all four chambers reduce, making it faster, and increasing how fast the RPM's climb say if you're gettin on it.
as to where if the gas doesn't burn as fast, the process of the combustion doesn't occur as rapidly, having a reverse effect.
does this make sense to anyone else?
it's all in the timing. i noticed my car running like crap if i use something different than 87 or 92 (timing in between)
Daviso27
05-05-2003, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Mushroom
This is a joke, right? Go read a jr.....
It was a joke, Funny huh? No Jr. High...I went straight to Tech School to learn how to drive a truck.
http://craton.geol.brocku.ca/faculty/ff/machines/bgtruck2.jpg
(That's Me in the pic)
Originally posted by hondaman-iac
it's all in the timing. i noticed my car running like crap if i use something different than 87 or 92 (timing in between)
but i don't understand how if you kept the same timing, and had different gas, how my understanding wouldn't be nessicarily invalid. the gas, because of it's chemical structure, would still combust faster because it reacts with the oxygen more while burning.
Racing Rice
05-06-2003, 06:45 AM
On stock honda motors what you use doesnt really make a difference. If you want to waste your money on the high dollar stuff then go ahead.. No it doesnt increase performance, no it doesnt increase gas mileage, for a stock honda motor it doesnt do much of anything. Unless your Honda requires premium, just run the cheap stuff. Hondas are efficient econo-boxes. :yes:
CD5Passion
05-06-2003, 09:36 AM
right now since im out of the job my mom is letting me use her gas card so in goes the 93:loco:
TeriyakiBroccoli
05-06-2003, 09:39 AM
I'm gonna fill up my 4 dr sedan auto with 100 octane from 76 at 5 bux a gallon.
SolPol
05-06-2003, 09:58 AM
B16s do say to use premium. Aren't I lucky? It's about $1.65/gal right now around here. Oh well.
Biker,
$.59/gal? For super? Damn, I really am moving to Canada. That's what? Like $.45 American?
Racing Rice
05-06-2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by SolPol
Biker,
$.59/gal? For super? Damn, I really am moving to Canada. That's what? Like $.45 American?
No I think in Canada its 59 cents a pint or liter or something like that.:o
SolPol
05-06-2003, 01:48 PM
That would make sense now that I think about it. Good call. How many liters to a gallon? I'm horrible at that stuff.
Racing Rice
05-06-2003, 01:51 PM
1 gallon [US, liquid] = 3.785412 liter
http://www.onlineconversion.com/ for all you converting needs.. ;)
pdiggitydogg
05-06-2003, 01:57 PM
$1.65 for premium?? damn...thats the cost of midgrade around here
Racing Rice
05-06-2003, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
$1.65 for premium?? damn...thats the cost of midgrade around here
:pfft: Premium is like a dollar fifty something here..
ebpda9
05-06-2003, 04:16 PM
heh, it was a dollah thirty something for super this morning, not it's up to 1.78:mad:
spoogenet
05-07-2003, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by mt.biker
dont speak for all hondas my friend, my honda is faster with 94oc in it then 87 because it was designed for 91+. The higher the oc the better it burns... cause it burns faster
and I run 94oc in my car, btw gas 59c here
Yeah but he said "higher octane than required." If your car was designed to run 91 octane, then 91 or 94 will definitely be superior to 87. My car was designed to comfortably run on 87, I don't get any better performance out of mid or premium.
Using a gas with less detergents than companies such as Exxon and Chevron will increase your performance. Over the long run Exxon or Chevron will keep your engine cleaner....but if you wanna tear ass around town on any given day they're not giving you peak performance.
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member
05-07-2003, 06:54 PM
mine says to use 86 or higher(unleaded)...
so is it better to use 87 or the 92?
ebpda9
05-07-2003, 10:33 PM
87 is good enough for you
member
05-07-2003, 11:32 PM
understood.
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