Ladies....honestly....does shifter length matter? [Archive]

Racing Rice

11-29-2001, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Accord Man
LMAO

WHy?? Are you sporting a short shifter?

:eek: ;)

Depending on the situation a short shifter is prefered over a stock length shifter.. This allows for tighter gear change patterns making things a little faster..;)

Accord Man

11-29-2001, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by Racing Rice

Depending on the situation a short shifter is prefered over a stock length shifter.. This allows for tighter gear change patterns making things a little faster..;)

LOL

You dont need to justify having a short shifter.. It'S all good man!

::yes:: ;)

Racing Rice

11-29-2001, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Accord Man

LOL

You dont need to justify having a short shifter.. It'S all good man!

::yes:: ;)

Ok I wont then... ;)

OneDopeTeg

11-29-2001, 08:59 AM

Racing Rice

11-29-2001, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by OneDopeTeg

So is faster--better? :)

in some cases you could say it is...;)

OneDopeTeg

11-29-2001, 09:10 AM

Currently I am sportin a slightly shorter than stock shifter :)

Racing Rice

11-29-2001, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by OneDopeTeg
Currently I am sportin a slightly shorter than stock shifter :)

I think mines about 30% shorter then stock, but I cant remember for sure..

I want to get one thats about 40%-50% though.. It makes it feel sportier when its shorter.. ;)

Lovebuzz13

11-29-2001, 01:48 PM

It's not the size of the shifter that matters, it's how well it performs. ;)

KwikR6

11-29-2001, 02:17 PM

so if i don't have a short shifter, or stock, slightly bigger, but I always make sure that performance is the key factor with me. Is that ok?
hahahahaaahahahah
sorry!!!

pReLuDe-gUrL

11-29-2001, 04:30 PM

lmao.... eric your so funny! i cant believe you just posted this! Everyone is being on their best behavior.... *sniffle*... im so proud! ;)

Sozsei

11-29-2001, 07:17 PM

I cut 3 inches off of my shift lever with a hacksaw. I must say, I'd do it again, given the chance. Throws are much tighter and smoother now :)

Racing Rice

11-29-2001, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by Sozsei
I cut 3 inches off of my shift lever with a hacksaw. I must say, I'd do it again, given the chance. Throws are much tighter and smoother now :)

Try that with a true shorty.. You'll be amazed at how it feels..::yes::

Sozsei

11-29-2001, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Racing Rice
Try that with a true shorty.. You'll be amazed at how it feels..::yes::
True, but the only one on the market that actually improves things costs $300 for my car. I'm not that hung up on it..;)

Racing Rice

11-29-2001, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by Sozsei

True, but the only one on the market that actually improves things costs $300 for my car. I'm not that hung up on it..;)

300 bones???!!! For what car??? The GTI?

Sozsei

11-29-2001, 07:47 PM

Yep. Rip-off, huh!

Racing Rice

11-29-2001, 07:52 PM

Thats crazy.. its almost hard to believe seems like a ton of money for a shortshifter... Whys it so much?

Sozsei

11-29-2001, 07:55 PM

Lemme look it up, I don't want to whore this thread but, pretty much everything for the VR6 is freakin' ridiculous like that, 2.0 short shift kits are waaaaaaaaay cheaper.

KwikR6

11-29-2001, 08:03 PM

$300.00 for a shifter!!! that's wack yo

94_AcCoRd_EX

11-29-2001, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by dereks civic
$300.00 for a shifter!!! that's wack yo

C's short shifter costs that much...

Sozsei

11-29-2001, 08:16 PM

You have to buy the whole shebang for a VR6.

I was wrong. It's $499.95 for my car and $229.95 for MkIV VR6's.

http://www.neuspeed.com/order/item_detail.php?id=220

Moral of the story? Cut 3" off of the stock lever ::yes::

Racing Rice

11-29-2001, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by Sozsei
You have to buy the whole shebang for a VR6.

I was wrong. It's $499.95 for my car and $229.95 for MkIV VR6's.

http://www.neuspeed.com/order/item_detail.php?id=220

Moral of the story? Cut 3" off of the stock lever ::yes::

Dang... Ill stick with honda.. Id cut it off too..

KwikR6

11-29-2001, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by Sozsei

Moral of the story? Cut 3" off of the stock lever ::yes::

I heard that cutting the shifter doesn't werk like an actual shorty does?
is that true?
I heard becuase of placement and where that ball sits.

Lovebuzz13

11-29-2001, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Sozsei
I cut 3 inches off of my shift lever with a hacksaw. I must say, I'd do it again, given the chance. Throws are much tighter and smoother now :)

OUCH.

Racing Rice

11-30-2001, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by dereks civic

I heard that cutting the shifter doesn't werk like an actual shorty does?
is that true?
I heard becuase of placement and where that ball sits.

Its kinda technical really,

An actual Short Shifter is longer below the pivot point which when shifting gears it will make it shorter going from one gear to the other. If you take it off the top it maybe be a little less of a throw but not near as effect. So instead of reducing your throw, 40% you may reduce it 20%.. Hope this made at least a little sense..

(Im not 100% sure about the figures, If anyone has actually experimented with this and has a more solid number, please post them)

KwikR6

11-30-2001, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by Racing Rice

An actual Short Shifter is longer below the pivot point which when shifting gears it will make it shorter going from one gear to the other. If you take it off the top it maybe be a little less of a throw but not near as effect. So instead of reducing your throw, 40% you may reduce it 20%.. Hope this made at least a little sense..

it did make sense...because the shifter isn't actually that much shorter. Its where the ball sits. Kinda hard to explain....but you know what I mean. ;)

Racing Rice

11-30-2001, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by dereks civic

it did make sense...because the shifter isn't actually that much shorter. Its where the ball sits. Kinda hard to explain....but you know what I mean. ;)

Cool Its kinda hard to discride without being able to show you.

ChrisCantSkate

11-30-2001, 12:13 PM

yeah i hacked 2 inches off mine, and have the adapter, so its pretty tight shifts, no one makes a true short shifter for me.

Whtehnda93DXSdn

12-12-2001, 10:52 AM

I have a short shifter.......in my car and love it..the feel is good w/ my neuspeed bushings..;) ;)

slowEJ6

12-14-2001, 12:54 PM

well see, when yer using a shorter throw shifter which is stock length, it feels much more solid and banging each gear is much more enjoyable for driver and passenger, especially when you throw on some more solid bushings, makes it more direct. ;) :cool:

toykilla

12-16-2001, 08:06 PM

i dont think the length of the shifter matters all that much, just the width and if you know how to use it to the fullest. just practice, practice and pracitce some more. you will get it eventually and when you hear your car make that nice moaning noise when you shift the gears, thats when you know you hit the spot. =)) good luck

toykilla

12-16-2001, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Racing Rice

Its kinda technical really,

An actual Short Shifter is longer below the pivot point which when shifting gears it will make it shorter going from one gear to the other. If you take it off the top it maybe be a little less of a throw but not near as effect. So instead of reducing your throw, 40% you may reduce it 20%.. Hope this made at least a little sense..

(Im not 100% sure about the figures, If anyone has actually experimented with this and has a more solid number, please post them)

my edge shorty is a 40%-60% decrease in throw. its awesome and only $185.00. Im afraid that japan is having some kind of manufacture problem with the shorties so they had to up the prices like hell. edge = american so woOt. I think the neuspeed one for my car was $385.00 and around that for every other jap / euro shifter. nopi told me exactly what hte problem was but i cant remember to the fullest. =/

FeelMyRide

01-03-2002, 12:48 AM

Short shifters look cute and all.. but theres no handle on them. You can never get a GOOD grip. Short shifters also get the fluids flowin' quicker than a longer shifter. But I think its not the size of the shifter.. its the horsies in the engine that get me moving!

Racing Rice

01-03-2002, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by FeelMyRide
Short shifters look cute and all.. but theres no handle on them. You can never get a GOOD grip.

Thats not the shifters problem... The knobs all wrong..;)

FeelMyRide

01-03-2002, 07:37 PM

Seriously tho.. I have the long shifter in my Civic and I want to get a short shifter.. can I change it myself? Or is it something reserved for those who know 'everything' about cars?

slowEJ6

01-03-2002, 09:49 PM

FeelMyRide

01-06-2002, 06:56 PM

If I decide to change my name to Loraina Bobbet (I was never in a spelling bee.. pardon my spelling) and just cut it off.. how much do you know to cut and then how to you get the shifter back on cause now you just got a stubby?

slowEJ6

01-06-2002, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by FeelMyRide
If I decide to change my name to Loraina Bobbet (I was never in a spelling bee.. pardon my spelling) and just cut it off.. how much do you know to cut and then how to you get the shifter back on cause now you just got a stubby? i think you can safely cut like an inch off of it but since the stock shifter is threaded and you will be doing away with the threads, you'll need a shift knob that stays on with allen screws. or you could always J&B Weld the stock knob on the shifter :cool:

APC short shifters from pep boys: $40 ;)

Racing Rice

01-07-2002, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by FeelMyRide
Seriously tho.. I have the long shifter in my Civic and I want to get a short shifter.. can I change it myself? Or is it something reserved for those who know 'everything' about cars?

I just did mine for the second time the other day... put new bushings in too... Id spend the extra 20$ and get the bushings to they make a big difference.. The hardest part is getting the car high enough off the ground to work comfortably, and working around the exhaust.. The rest is cake..

slowEJ6

01-07-2002, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Racing Rice

I just did mine for the second time the other day... put new bushings in too... Id spend the extra 20$ and get the bushings to they make a big difference.. The hardest part is getting the car high enough off the ground to work comfortably, and working around the exhaust.. The rest is cake.. a jack that can lift the car about 2.5ft is OK! along with the jackstands to match :cool:

FeelMyRide

01-08-2002, 01:18 AM

What in the heck is this???
RoboShifter (http://shop.store.yahoo.com/streetbeatcustoms/incivrob.html)

slowEJ6

01-08-2002, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by FeelMyRide
What in the heck is this???
RoboShifter (http://shop.store.yahoo.com/streetbeatcustoms/incivrob.html) that thing is crazy insane, i was about to buy it when i was shopping for a short shifter......but i quickly realized i dont need a short shifter thats adjustable in several thousand points.

Racing Rice

01-08-2002, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by hybrid3do0rcx
a jack that can lift the car about 2.5ft is OK! along with the jackstands to match

My Jack and Jack stands will only lift about 2 ft.. Then add the height of the creeper and my fat a$$ wrapped in a thick winter jacket it did leave me witha whole lot of room...

Originally posted by hybrid3do0rcx
that thing is crazy insane, i was about to buy it when i was shopping for a short shifter......but i quickly realized i dont need a short shifter thats adjustable in several thousand points.

I agree... My fear with the thing is that one of the adjustment points vibrate loose and then you wont be able to shift..:o

slowEJ6

01-08-2002, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Racing Rice

I agree... My fear with the thing is that one of the adjustment points vibrate loose and then you wont be able to shift..:o i just bought some new jack stands today.....they have a 3' extension. its nice. i just need a working jack now ;) haha

SPEED

03-21-2002, 04:30 PM

I was at the dealership the other day because I couldn't seem to get the shift knob off my short shifter, luckly 1 of the lovely ladies that worked there could tell it was stuck and gave it a lube job which got it off. As she was lubein it she paused to ask me if I was sure it was a short shifter because it felt slightly larger than stock to her soon after she was almost finished she seemed to have a mouth full of words and asked me to come back to the dealership sometime and take her for a ride.

:rolleyes:

FeelMyRide

03-21-2002, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by SPEED
I was at the dealership the other day because I couldn't seem to get the shift knob off my short shifter, luckly 1 of the lovely ladies that worked there could tell it was stuck and gave it a lube job which got it off. As she was lubein it she paused to ask me if I was sure it was a short shifter because it felt slightly larger than stock to her soon after she was almost finished she seemed to have a mouth full of words and asked me to come back to the dealership sometime and take her for a ride.

:rolleyes:

oooooh geez :rolleyes: lmao!

SPEED

03-21-2002, 11:36 PM

;) :D

girlzgotcarz

03-22-2002, 10:21 AM

Incubus

03-22-2002, 02:18 PM

My shifter is still stock, which is a little too long for my tastes but nobody really notices that it's kinda long, especially since I have a Type R knob, which looks better than the black one I had!

I'm just afraid of doing it myself because I'll probably mess up the ball socket and bushings!

But definitely short shifter is better if you wanna be as quick as possible. Also, my shifter has a bit too much flex when I'm really flogging it while racing, so I guess I really need to pick up a shorter shifter that will help not only with throws but also will reduce the bendability of a longer stick.

Wren57

03-24-2002, 12:33 AM

My shifter is larger than stock by about 3"... It shifts before I want it to sometimes... cant get the feeling of the high revving before it shifts... it is kind of bad at times when it shifts before I get to the redline... but when it does shift I can feel the transmission fluids going crazy and then the revs get low again and calm back down... did I mention mine is automatic? :D

Incubus

03-24-2002, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by highlander
... did I mention mine is automatic? :D

So do you have to push in that button to get your stick in gear? Or is it one of those spiffy new Tiptronic ones?

Lovebuzz13

03-24-2002, 02:10 PM

What? This thread is still going on :crazy:

Incubus

03-24-2002, 02:24 PM

No seriously, I've been meaning to pick up a short shifter for a couple years now but it always gets overshadowed by the bigger mods.
I've been looking at B&M shifters and also Neuspeed.....both not only have a shortened stick but the whole shortened throw as well due to different placement of the shifter type stuff.

I know Neuspeed is good, but it's like $200, B&M is a bit more reasonable.......what do you people suggest?

se-r turbo

04-10-2002, 03:45 PM

It really depends on the what kind of shift knob you have and how it feels, also on how you use it.

Maxvla

04-16-2002, 02:26 AM

you people are nuts!! haha.

i had a aftermarket knob on my auto... but it kept shooting off.

Incubus

04-17-2002, 01:02 AM

I'm gonna be getting the Skunk2 short shifter and the Skunk2 Type R knob.......the knob is pretty heavy and he said it'll make for quicker throws......hopefully it helps out in my 1/4 mile time