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96civicex
02-13-2003, 12:10 AM
i am going to be getting some 17's soon and i am going to lower it at the same time. originally i wanted coilovers so i could get the exact height that i want, but i heard that they are kind of a ***** to adjust and they are also very stiff compared to springs. i don't want them too stiff because i won't be getting new struts any time soon. i have been thinking about eibach pro kit or sportline. if anyone has pics of a civic with 17's or close to it that has been lowered, i would appreciate it and please put exactly what kind of springs. i just want to know some that would put it at about the right height for me. thanks
Racing Rice
02-13-2003, 07:33 AM
Coilovers are easy.. A lot of kits you dont even have to take the wheels off, just jack it up and twist. If your going to buy coilovers, I would save you money and get a good set. Not something like a coilover sleeve. Coilover sleeves can give you a crappy ride if your shocks dont work well with you springs. I would look at the Apex or Koni coilovers. They arent that much more then good springs and shocks.
96coupe
02-13-2003, 05:07 PM
if it were me, i'd just save up and get the struts and springs/coilovers at the same time. the eibach pro kit or neuspeed sports should be alright w/ stock struts for a little bit. if you want to get coilovers, go w/ ground controls and order the spring rates you want.
HighLife
02-14-2003, 09:41 AM
I have arospeed coilovers i bought down here in Miami. They are about 200$ and i bought directly from Arospeed Miami for 100$. Got em installed for 50$ from a friend. The ride is much stiffer then stock ride, but the car handles GREAT. Ive had em on about 9k miles right now and not 1 problem from them.
96civicex
02-14-2003, 10:09 PM
do you leave it at the same height most of the time and if so how much did you lower it. i just don't want to blow my struts and i'd like not to have to get a camber kit. if you've got any pics, i'd like to see them
Senshi
02-16-2003, 01:26 AM
i got OBXr and i've had them for about a year, and its much stiffer, but handles like a charm, never leans, and i've never had a problem, NEVER, but if you got a girl friend that is rather DEFINED (guys you know what i mean, got some big hootie hooos), then you might what to go spring, b/c i've had some girls complain about it, thats why i'm raising it up, that and, the treadwear, UGH i can't stand that
96civicex
02-16-2003, 03:32 PM
my girlfriend's got some 36 C's so that may be a problem
96civicex
02-16-2003, 04:16 PM
does anyone have pics or just know what a 96 civic looks like with 17's and an eibach pro kit. i would like it but i'm worried my car may still look jacked up.i don't want any "tuckin" whatsoever, but i would like to get rid of most of the wheel well gap
TeriyakiBroccoli
02-16-2003, 04:18 PM
I have a set of coilovers, really easy to adjust, they're on stock struts with almost a 2" drop (1.75 ish). When taking sharp turns, the stiffer springs definately help to keep the wheels to the ground.
96civicex
02-16-2003, 04:30 PM
did you need a camber kit or anything additional
ebpda9
02-16-2003, 06:09 PM
i have the gc coilovers with konis. the car used to handle great until my frame made some poo. i'm gonna fix it soon.
jjcivic92
03-17-2003, 10:53 PM
The camber kit just depends on how far you go down. If you go down really far, then you'll have a lot of negative camber, and you'll definitely need a camber kit. I'm in the same boat as you, as you can tell from my sig. picture. I want to get rid of some of the wheel well gap in the rear, and the the front even with that.
pdiggitydogg
03-18-2003, 12:16 AM
jj what springs are you using? Eibach? Looks like your front is higher than your rear
JDMB16
03-18-2003, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
jj what springs are you using? Eibach? Looks like your front is higher than your rear
looks to me like he doesn't have a drop at all and has something heavy in the back of his car
FausteVonHonda
03-18-2003, 09:44 AM
Ive had progress sports springs for over a year and a half and ive never had a problem, hell ive even been in a wreck with them, and never any problems, smooth ride
jjcivic92
03-18-2003, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by JDMB16
looks to me like he doesn't have a drop at all and has something heavy in the back of his car
Yeah, I haven't gotten around to putting any springs on yet. I really really need too. You're exactly right though. I have a LOAD in the back, with the bandpass box, amp, speakers, etc. I actually found a coil over kit at nopionline.com. It looked pretty decent, but I don't know a whole lot about quality of springs and what kind of springs you should buy. If someone would, check them out for me here (http://www.nopionline.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dsppartdetail&vmakeid=140&vmodelid=020&vcatyear=1992&vnopinum=455%2B2660&vTitle=1992%20HONDA%20Civic%20Suspension%20Suspens ion%20Kit&vaffid=0), and tell me what you think. Thanks.
pdiggitydogg
03-18-2003, 11:57 AM
link doesnt work...nopi's like that...shitty
I really suggest getting new shocks for the springs/coilovers 'cause your stocks are only gonna last a yr tops (and you on a dirt road probably less than that). Save up and get some Koni yellows or Tokico Illuminas and then some ground controls coilovers or eibach/progress springs (like I said the eibach have a history of uneven-ness for a while...but they do even out)
JDMB16
03-18-2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by jjcivic92
Yeah, I haven't gotten around to putting any springs on yet. I really really need too. You're exactly right though. I have a LOAD in the back, with the bandpass box, amp, speakers, etc. I actually found a coil over kit at nopionline.com. It looked pretty decent, but I don't know a whole lot about quality of springs and what kind of springs you should buy. If someone would, check them out for me here (http://www.nopionline.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dsppartdetail&vmakeid=140&vmodelid=020&vcatyear=1992&vnopinum=455%2B2660&vTitle=1992%20HONDA%20Civic%20Suspension%20Suspens ion%20Kit&vaffid=0), and tell me what you think. Thanks.
DAMN I'm good haha J/K
that's what it looked like to me, I was thinking you had a box back there :) But yeah, fix that link or whatever and I'll tell ya what I think. Also, I agree, I suggest getting new shocks, but you don't necessarily have to get Koni Yellows or Tokico Illuminas, they are really good, but you don't need them. I run Koni reds and they are REALLY good, runs smooth as hell and a lot of my friends use the Tokico blues with no complaints...the great think about the illuminas and yellows is the adjustability without having to remove them from the vehicle.
jjcivic92
03-18-2003, 11:49 PM
Adjustment without haveing to be off my car??! That would be pretty sweet. I bet they cost a lot. Here's another question, how would I go about figuring out how much of an increase my front end should have over the rear when lowering? How far should I go .. like an 1 1/2" in the front and even out the back? I also plan to get a Blitz front end (someday if ever). Then again, down these freakin' dirt roads, that's a lot of decisions to make. The shocks will only last another year?! Are you serious?! Why is that? (I don't know much about suspension, sorry.) What is a good website to look at the koni yellows? Reading pdiggitydogg's poll on the Tokico Illuminas, that's out of the picture! Let's see if this works any better:
http://www.nopionline.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dsppartdetail&vmakeid=140&vmodelid=020&vcatyear=1992&vnopinum=455%2B2660&vTitle=1992 HONDA Civic Suspension Suspension Kit&vaffid=0
JDMB16
03-21-2003, 09:15 AM
yes, they cost usually around $500. What do you mean how much of an increase?? Lower your car to the stance YOU want it at, it doesn't really matter. Yes, your stockies will last a year tops depending on how rough you are on your car ie hitting potholes and bumps and such. Reason being is that the stock shocks aren't made to handle all of that excessive pressure put on them and end up blowing out resulting in a really shitty ride. As for websites umm.... www.modacar.com www.lightningmotorsports.com these are the two I use most of the time.
Also, I believe in the saying "Do it once and do it right" I think you'll be very disappointed with those low quality springs....it's better to save up and do it right with good quality parts.
ebpda9
03-21-2003, 09:54 AM
don't go for aff the wall brands on springs. if u decide to go with coilovers i would sugest either ground control's or skunk2's, nothing else.
JDMB16
03-21-2003, 11:17 AM
hmmmm...how bout Tein, Tanabe, Apexi ;)
ebpda9
03-21-2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by JDMB16
hmmmm...how bout Tein, Tanabe, Apexi ;)
out of his price range. the least expensive is the koni with 960 shipped
JDMB16
03-21-2003, 02:12 PM
heh, I was just giving you a hard time man :)
jjcivic92
03-21-2003, 05:14 PM
Sorry, I haven't responded sooner - out of town. Anyway, I really appreciate all of your help. Check out the new HS Tuners logo, awesome (off the wall, but ohh well).
akemi27
03-22-2003, 01:10 PM
what's wrong w/ agx's & gc's? (i'd go w/ the koni's if had the money right now...BUT have yet to hear something really bad about agx's )
hurikain
03-22-2003, 01:43 PM
actually i have been recommended for that agx/gc setup, simply because the koni's and gc's are not a direct fit, i have heard you would need an adapter to fit them which is an extra 30-50 bucks, so i would rather go with something that is supposed to fit.i have heard no complaints about the agx's and they are a little cheaper than the koni's both 5 way adjustable if not mistaken.
JDMB16
03-22-2003, 05:13 PM
yes you need adapters, but Konis are worth the money bro. There isn't anything "wrong" with AGX's but they aren't as good as Konis.
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