short shifter

[96civicex]

does anyone know of a pretty good short shifter. they all look fairly similar but some are $45 and some even get to 150. i'd appreciate any feedback. thanks

[oc civic]

i have a B&M i love it... it was like $70 although ive never personaly seen it happen, i have heard of people snaping off the cheap ones shifting too hard... i give the same advice that id give for any part... buy from a reputable company

short shifters to buy

B&M
skunk2
dc
etc....

short shifters NOT to buy

APC
ractive
ANYTHING sold at pepboys
etc.....

[ebpda9]

well i know somebody on this board that broke his $45 shifter (right dr dingo ;))

[oc civic]

and while you are under there change your bushings... its WELL worth the extra ten bucks

[ChrisCantSkate]

a cheap shifter will have play in it and not shift very well... my friend had an obx, and he trashed it because he had trouble getting it in gear

[pdiggitydogg]

i got B&M too...love it :yes: I know someone that got APCrap and it broke within a week. He got a free replacement and it broke the first day :D so let that be a warning to all those who even THINK about getting APCrap

[Honda530]

Well my little brother has a Ebay Shortshifter on his civic. I bought it for him for christmas and installed t for him. We havent had any problems with it and It goes into gears very well. The quality seems to be just fine. PLus it was only 20 bucks. I would buy another shortshifter like that agian.

[96civicex]

thanks a lot guys. i'll probably go with the b&m

[slowEJ6]

yes, dont buy the APC short shifter. :rolleyes:


i bought an APC one 2yrs ago and have had no problems....just get the neuspeed bushings and you are good to go, no sloppy shifts. but dont listen to me, just listen to the people that have never actually installed and used an apc shifter :yes:

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

approximately how much is it for B&M shifter? i'm quite tempted to buy those $14 Ebay shifters....i mean c'mon $14 is cheap...

[pdiggitydogg]

ok...sure call me a liar...I just know the kid and saw both snapped shifters myself...i just dont want him to take the risk of getting screwed...you took the risk....it worked for you...im happy for you

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

I sense some tension.

[pdiggitydogg]

like oc and nonofyourbiz (sorry i dont remember it exactly), slow and I dont usually meet eye to eye on...everything...

[drdingo21]

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
well i know somebody on this board that broke his $45 shifter (right dr dingo ;)) sigh...

I just recently broke my cheapy, that i paid $45 for. I am having tranny problems and when i tried to shift during a race it didn't go into gear and it snapped right where the knob screws on. So i rethreaded it, only to break it 2 weeks later when i was mad at not being able to use reverse...

Either way now ill never buy a cheapie again...and i will probly go b&m. I have seen some b&ms go for $45 on ebay

[iRACEmyCTR]

i have a matrix short shifter... hasn't broken yet but then again i dont shift with the furiousity of OC_Civic....

[slowEJ6]

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
ok...sure call me a liar...I just know the kid and saw both snapped shifters myself...i just dont want him to take the risk of getting screwed...you took the risk....it worked for you...im happy for you
i never called you a liar :hmmm:

[pdiggitydogg]

apologies...i was a little on the edge that day:paranoid:

[slowEJ6]

its ok....i have those days too :yes:

[nonovurbizniz]

I have the b&m and I wouldn't recomend it unless you have short legs and long arms... it's not bent like the stock shifter so it sits too far forward.

I'd definatly go with the cheapest one you can find. It doesn't take more than 10-20 Ft/Lbs to engage a gear so if your breaking shifters then your just pulling/pushing too hard. a shifer could be made of wood and not break under normal opperation.. it's when kids think that slamming gears somehow makes them move faster.

Go cheap. My 2 bits.

[drdingo21]

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
I have the b&m and I wouldn't recomend it unless you have short legs and long arms... it's not bent like the stock shifter so it sits too far forward.

I'd definatly go with the cheapest one you can find. It doesn't take more than 10-20 Ft/Lbs to engage a gear so if your breaking shifters then your just pulling/pushing too hard. a shifer could be made of wood and not break under normal opperation.. it's when kids think that slamming gears somehow makes them move faster.

Go cheap. My 2 bits. well, i wasn't slamming anything. and when he breaks his shifter, it may not be right away but it will eventualy happen. he will see what we were talking about.

But thanks for the heads up on the b&m i was gonna get one and i was wondering why it didn't have the bend

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

guess no b&m for me:crazy: if the cheap shifter breaks then i guess...you get what u pay for...

[pdiggitydogg]

i like the no bend

[slowEJ6]

i like the no bend as well.


my shifter wont break ever ;)

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

installation of a short shifter isn't that difficult correct? i'm planning to get a short shifter along with some aftermarket bushings..but where can i get the bushings for a cheap price?

[pdiggitydogg]

didnt take me long...and at the time i had no clue what i was doing...jcwhitney has some decent bushing prices i believe

[shadowracer]

JC whitney has prothane shift bushing for $9.97 they work pretty good and the price is right I've order at least 5 sets of shift bushings from them. I buy and sell Hondas all the time and I like to do some work to them before I sell em. Being able to experiment with cars like I have the best combo I've found is to use a DC sports short shifter for an Acura Integra in a civic believe me it fits just make sure you get the bushings for your car and not an Integ. The shifts are short as can be and for those of you who don't like bends in your shifter this one has one small bend in it barely noticeble. It also places the shifter in a nuce spot also.

[96civicex]

what exactly do the bushings do?

[Holly35]

Originally posted by 96civicex
does anyone know of a pretty good short shifter. they all look fairly similar but some are $45 and some even get to 150. i'd appreciate any feedback. thanks

I have a C's short shifter in my car....it is one of the best kinds you can get. They cost a llittle more, about $190 with a good deal, but they're worth it.

I would not get a random brand (ebay, etc) or something cheaper than 40 bucks or so. Any short shifter is going to be hard on your tranny and bushings faster, but getting a good quality will easily save you money in the future. I've broken two and learned my lesson.

[drdingo21]

i ordered the B&M shiftter (thx pdiggitydogg and slow) I haven't installed it yet, but i am going to tonight. I just got my car back with the new clutch so we will find out...The shifter came with all kinds of bushing and good instructions and some lube. The shifter itself you can tell is well made and nice and sturdy. I got it from summit and paid i think 65 shipped, ill let you know how it goes after i install it.

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

i think i'm gonna go get myself a b&m shifter....

[drdingo21]

it seems nice. Im going out to install it right now...

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

don't forget to post some pics... and while your at it... why not post a "HOW-TO" so you may help others...including myself..:yes:

[pdiggitydogg]

hope you bend the heat sheild near it...if not its gonna bug the hell outta you when your slowin down and still in gear (5th seemed the most active vibrating gear to me)

[Racing Rice]

I got the OBX shifter with the Type R style threaded knob and neuspeed bushings.. I like my shifter, havent had any problems with it, but I dont shift like a mad man either.

Get the bushings! Youll be sorry if you dont.:crazy:

[drdingo21]

sorry, i never though about pics....but i did get it installed and it is nice. I move a total of 1 ince and a 1/4 from first to second and 1 ince from 3rd to 4th. I kinda like the no bend. The Bushing feel nice. The only problem i had is my old generic short throw was smaller than stock so when i tightened the bold to it, i bent the fork in. So when i installed this one i had to bend the fork out.

sohc_vtec 2NR It really is easy, you only need two sockets and an extension with the wrench and a box wrench. The hardest part is working the extension up there to get the bolt off. If you do get the b&m it comes with great instrustions and labels every part for you so you know what they are talking about. There are a total of 4 bolts to remove and the the shifter drops down out of the car. After that there are two bolts that you remove to pull shifter from the Change Extension ( the long rod that holds the shifter). After that you take the ball seat ( a little rubber thing that the ball of the shifter sits in) And clean it out and relube it with the grease they send you. Remove the rear join collar ( a little pipe that goes through the bottom of the bolt hole on the shifter) and thats where the bushings go. then you lubercate them. I had to pund mine out of my stock shifter, i never put it in my other short throw. After that you put everything back together.

pdiggitydogg there is no heat shield by my shifter, well actuall there is but its around the pipe rather than a big sheet of metal bolted to it. I never had a problem with vibrating, how ever my car is a 94. So sohc_vtec 2NR you may want to head his advice since you have the same car as him. You won't have any problems doing it.

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

thanks for the advice drdingo21, appreciate it.. :yes:

[hondariz]

I just bought a neuspeed. it seems to work pretty well...

[Zanza]

Originally posted by Racing Rice
I got the OBX shifter with the Type R style threaded knob and neuspeed bushings.. I like my shifter, havent had any problems with it, but I dont shift like a mad man either.

Get the bushings! Youll be sorry if you dont.:crazy:

What do bushings do?

[pdiggitydogg]

stiffens it up a lot better. the oe bushings are soft squishy rubber material that deteriorates a lot over time and eventually becomes crap over just a few yrs. the new bushings made of a rubber polymer or urethane are more durable and improve the quality of the shift overall

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

and aftermarket bushings last longer too...i'd say its a necessity when gettin' a new shifter..

[pdiggitydogg]

meh...i didnt get em

[drdingo21]

the b&m came with some good one. The shift quality is really good. And i like the no bend it shifts nice and accurate.

[96coupe]

since the dc short shifter was mentioned, i know people and have heard from others about this shifter breaking while shifting. b&m and neuspeed are the best imo

[Zanza]

I put in the short shifter. I just missed class stupid parking permits....

Anyways I made a how to, trust me you won't need pictures.

[hooohaa2]

I bought an Ebay $12 shifter for my 96 Civic Ex, and I am having some trouble with it. First of all, my friend, who was helping me out while I was under the car held the shifter backwards while I bolted it up, which sucks. I also left out the rubber cup which I assume fits over the shift ball, because my friend said that he left his out on his '97, and just used the little plastic collar thing. The result is that my shifter works; however, is not only backwards, but it is also very loose (I move it up and down quite a bit) and it rattles badly.

Obviously I am going to redo the whole thing, my question is about the "bushings" you guys are referring to. Is this the bushing that fits inside the end of the shifter, or is it the cup that holds the ball joint? Also, I used the two included washers in between the end of the shifter and the fork of the shift linkage. Will installing the oem rubber cup next time take the play out of my shifter, or is there something I'm missing?

thanks

[thermal]

I have the Focuz integra short throw. Had it for 3 years now with no problem. It was free, so I dont know exactly how much it is. The integra short shifter that I have is angled. To be honest, I wouldnt thrade my short shifter for anything else but DC....

[pdiggitydogg]

back from the dead

I changed to a skunk2 teg dual bend shifter (this time I got the bushings...what a difference)

[hooohaa2]

so did you reuse the stock rubber cup and plastic collar to go around the ball when you put it back in or what?

mine is really loose, and I have to take it all out anyways because its backwards, so what should I do? where exactly do these bushings that people keep referring to go?

[hooohaa2]

does no one know what I am talking about here? when you installed your shifters, did you reuse the rubber cup or not?

[drdingo21]

yes, you do.

[chefmaster21]

yes you use the rubber cup. and as for the bushings they go on the end where the shift linkage connects to the shifter.

[chefmaster21]

vibrating...does anyone know how to stop it...??? manily in 5th gear but its driving me crazy. almot to the point where i want to take the short shifter off help please

[pdiggitydogg]

yeah just put some washers in between the shifter and its forks...its too loose. Problem solved...at least it did for me on my b&m. (get plastic or stainless steel)

[hooohaa2]

could also be the heat shield and the bottom of the shifter contacting, thats what it is in my case...

[96civicex]

I got a b&m and mine was vibrating like crazy in 5th gear. A local shop just heat up my exhaust pipe and bent it slightly for about 10 dollars. It hasn't done it since. It was a $10 spent well

[chefmaster21]

96civic where did you get your b&m ?? i've been lookin online havnig a hard time finding a good deal?? or anyone......

[ebpda9]

Originally posted by chefmaster21
96civic where did you get your b&m ?? i've been lookin online havnig a hard time finding a good deal?? or anyone......

AIM me

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

i got an eBay shifter as a gift from my beloved g/f and my friend and i installed it today along with the E.S. Polyurethane Bushings and leather boot with red stitching (looks great! :yes: ) the shifting feels crisp/direct/firm and way shorter than before... but i also happen to break that plastic piece that goes on top of the boot so right now it looks kinda funky...

anybody know where i can get a new one??

[hooohaa2]

just use the rubber band to hold it on the shift knob, looks better anyways

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

i am currently usin' the rubber band and it looks funky...no me gusta :no:

[RavingCivic]

i told u, that u can get the peice from MOMO for like 5 bux, or u can ZIPTIE it from underneath. post some pics of that beautiful Italian Leather SHift BOot and E brake boot that u got a great deal ON @ *insert MY NAME HERE*

thanks for the Love Gian

Dan